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right winger from Victoria, Canada writes: Do we or do we not have free speech in this country? It's not free if a special interest group, in this case fanatical Zionists, can suppress it.
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Mark S from Toronto, Canada writes: 'right winger':
Do we really need to ask this question every time this happens? Free speech does not include speech that is either hateful or slanderous. For some reason, we act like 'free speech' means you can say anything you want, whenever you want. Turns out that is only partially true. There are also consequences. Don't like it? Don't say anything.- Posted 24/05/07 at 11:13 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Edwin Longueville from Cavan, Canada writes: Any time there is a legitimate critisism of the political actions of Isreal, some organizations claim that it is racism. What a pityful defense, attack your critic rather than defend your actions. We are allowed to critzise GW Bush, without being labelled a racist. Why can we not write the same things about the Israely leadership, political structures etc. Any country that portrays itself along the lines of a religion or racial type allways uses that critisism as dafense. Funny though when you look at the countries that are bases on these principles we speak of Norther Ireland. Iran, the Taliban Afghanistan and of course Israel. Can everyone see apattern here, strife all around
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David Bruce from Vancouver, Canada writes: Sam Barns from Toronto, you have it exactly right.
As for the article about 'nuking' Israel, it should not have been on the website.
Just as articles urging the U.S. or Israel to 'nuke Iran', (the sort of posts often found on various G & M forums), should not be allowed, and in fact, should be deemed as 'hate speech.'
Terming a state either 'racist' or 'apartheid' is a valid political point of view (whether you agree with it or not).
Urging the nuclear destruction of a state is a call to mass murder.- Posted 24/05/07 at 11:47 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Vince Porter from Canada writes: In a world of censorship by other names, it is worthwhile recalling the wisdom of John Stewart Mill: 'If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind'. The whole notion of hate laws seem predicated on the notion that the population in general is no more than rabble and can be incited to act as, well, rabble. Why do we spend billions of dollars every year on education if we cannot trust the recipients of those billions to make wise choices in the marketplace of ideas? As a citizen of a free country, I do not relinquish my right to assess every idea, no matter how repugnant it may be, nor do I need B'nai Brith's cleansing broom depriving me of access to ideas, n matter how stupid they may be.
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Michael Tripper from Vancouver, Canada writes: Maybe there is worse in the articles but saying Israel should never have been created where it is now and criticizing israeli policies is in no way offensive.
And frankly being offended is part of life - get a grip!
I'm with those who see this the B'Nai Brith acting more like an Inquisition (ironically) and not responsible actors.
Yes my ancestry includes my father who had to flee the Nazi's from Lithunia cuz, you know, he was jewish.
The B'Nai Brith encroach on free speech too much, imo.- Posted 24/05/07 at 12:12 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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edwardo plazinski from maple ridge, Canada writes: Hmmm? What would happen if somebody lodged a complaint against the B'Nai Brith? Seems that they are becoming that which they try to prevent.
- Posted 24/05/07 at 12:20 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Dodge Chaarger from Canada writes: THIS IS B*LLSHIT!
So now being against Israeli foreign policy is deemed as anti-Semitic?
We may as well just give the whole world to the Israelis.- Posted 24/05/07 at 1:33 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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siren call from alberta, Canada writes: If only B'nai Brith would devote as much energy, time and thought to the resolution of the Israel/Palestine situation as it expends on silencing those who are concerned.
I never read the site and the 'spoof' on nuking Israel. I did however read the deadly serious original article:
'Sat, September 2, 2006
We should nuke Iran
By MICHAEL COREN
It is surely obvious now to anybody with even a basic understanding of history, politics and the nature of fascism that something revolutionary has to be done within months -- if not weeks -- if we are to preserve world peace.
Put boldly and simply, we have to drop a nuclear bomb on Iran.'
Not a big bomb, just widdle nukes. I read this over coffee at my local shop, not at some obscure internet site on line. It appeared in the Sun chain which can be found across Canada. Where was the outrage from ANYONE for this atrocity?
- Posted 24/05/07 at 1:34 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Philosopher King from Ottawa, Canada writes: On one hand I can understand the paranoia. I have to admit my ability to empathize with being hunted to near extinction is fairly limited, but I can only assume it puts you a wee bit on edge. My people (Caucasian that is) have generally been the murderous invaders for most of recorded history, and at this point our culture still dominates the world stage, generally speaking.
On the otherhand, there is nothing worse than someone who uses these types of events to justify intolerance of other views.
In some ways this complaint actually hightlights these articles and increases the likelihood of them being sought out for interest's sake.- Posted 24/05/07 at 1:34 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Philosopher King from Ottawa, Canada writes: siren call from alberta: Michel Coren is such a nut that no one can take him seriously. He once advocated rounding up people who openly denounced the war in Iraq. The guy is so openly hostile that even people who agree with him occasionally catch flak.
There's always these idiots who want to rage and beat their heads against a brickwall. I say let them. Their insanity is obvious enough to act as an incentive to wiser tactics.
The only person whose going to support a view put forth by Michel Coren is someone whose already too far gone down the self-righteous garden path to be helped.- Posted 24/05/07 at 1:49 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Dodge Chaarger from Canada writes: Philosopher King from Ottawa, Canada writes: My people (Caucasian that is) have generally been the murderous invaders for most of recorded history.
That is the stupidest thing I have heard in a long time because the way you word it makes it sound like Caucasians are the only ones that do this. Did you forget about Pol Pot? How about the Hutus and the Tutsis? Which ethnic group has NOT done this?
Read the Old Testament - event the Jews were genocidal fanatics. See how many groups of people they wiped out! OOOPS maybe I was not supposed to say that.
How long until I get a B'Nai Brith complaint.- Posted 24/05/07 at 1:51 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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siren call from alberta, Canada writes: Philosopher King from Ottawa, Canada writes: siren call from alberta: Michel Coren is such a nut that no one can take him seriously..............
While I would like to think the same... Coren continues to be published in what must be one of the most mass produced of Canadian daily newspapers. Some thought Falwell was just a nut who would be ignored by the sane. Yet he and others built a radical right wing 'religious' organization that is credited with takeover of the Republican party in the US, beginning with Reagan.
I think he is dangerous for those who are not political junkies like many of us here. Think of a simplistic solution (kill 'em all) go out for coffee and have your idiocy confirmed in print.- Posted 24/05/07 at 2:11 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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siren call from alberta, Canada writes: Gee, bobo2110 whiteman; that seems vaguely threatening.
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Midtown Bob from Toronto, Canada writes: Has anyone here actually read the articles? I haven't thus I don't care.
This is just b'mai birth's way of maintaining their media presence. Btw has b'hai bnirth commented about the poor kid who was murdered in Downsview yesterday or the passing of Rev. Jerry Falwell?- Posted 24/05/07 at 2:56 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Robert Schmidt from Montreal, Canada writes: It is somewhat alarming that so many Canadians - drunk as they are on their personal notions of 'freedom of speech' and their 'individual rights' - seem intellectually incapable of wrapping their brains around concepts of 'hatemongering' and 'hate speech'.
Freedoms come accompanied by responsibilities, including the responsibility to use one's freedom wisely and without injuring anyone else. I don't find that SUCH a stretch to understand, and fail to see why so many Canadians seem incapable of the intellectual reach necessary to grasp same.
In the final analysis, though, one must recognize that the anti-Semitic spokespersons on this board are merely a reflection of Canada's and Canadians' long and shameful history of anti-Semitism. I note that the 'handles' of many of the snti-Semites who have posted here are the same handles that accompany the venom posted to any article about Quebec.
And you thought the 'trailer mentality' wasn't part opf the 'Canadian mosaic'! Ha! The ignorant form a significant part of Canada's population after all, it seems!- Posted 24/05/07 at 3:13 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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charles crouch from Toronto, Canada writes: I couldn't agree with Vince Porter from Canada more. He really put this topic in clear prospective. But it only goes to show the influence that the Zionists are able to exert on our governments when such 'hate laws' are able to be used to stifle honest, direct and unracist criticisms of the actions of the Israeli government. Whether the B'nai Brith like it or not, that very kind of conduct mirrors the conduct of Dr. Geobbels and his ilk.
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Jason Mummery from Port Dover, Canada writes: Sam Barns. Took the words out of my mouth
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H W from Waterloo, Canada writes: So once and for all, someone please explain it to me: Is being against Israel the same as being against all Jews? How? There are more Jews living outside of Israel now than within it, so I do believe it IS possible to criticize Israel as a state without being labeled an anti-semite. As for Israel being an apartheid state, it's pretty obvious to me that it is. Whether Israel deserves the right to exist, or has the 'right' to exist is a matter of opinion, not law. The facts are the Israel is founded on land stolen from under the feet of the inhabitants, based on some ridiculous biblical claim. Israel is a greedy, waring nation, and currently occupies substantially more land than was granted buy the partition plan, largely due to American military and financial aid (to the tune of 85B$ in 'foreign aid'). This is promoted by American bible belt Christians, again with a childish biblical agenda of preserving an intact Israel for the 'end times'. Don't like the facts? Look them up!
- Posted 24/05/07 at 3:29 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Michael Tripper from Vancouver, Canada writes: The best defense against speech one finds unagreeable is more speech - not laws that target unpopular views.
History is very clear about this and those that speak in favour of these idiotic so-called hate laws (we have incitement laws and are entirely adequate) merely do not want to hear opposing views on a number of subjects.
Quite often religious loons will embrace other religious loons as a way to circle the wagons and prevent any criticism of their utterly daft, insane and patently and obviously fictional beliefs.
The dignity of the free mind to debate all points of view is more important than the puffed-up sense of self-entitlement of clerics, rabbis and imams, which is what this is all about - protecting special interests and stifling debate and criticism.- Posted 24/05/07 at 3:32 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Rain Drop from Toronto, Canada writes: How is stating that Israel is an illegal state anti-semetic? I would understand if they called it anti-zionist! Seems like they are supressing free speech.. even when it is merely stating the obvious!
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Canadian Patriot from Toronto, Canada writes: I personally support Israel and believe fully that Palestine and other supporting muslim states of anti-israeli movement are in the wrong.
That being said, anti-semetic or not, a person or group should be free to write opinion no matter how vile or discriminatory - just because they write it does not mean you have to read it.- Posted 24/05/07 at 3:58 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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rahim ladha from Montreal, Canada writes: Extreme content and anti semintic articles have no place in Canada. B'nai Brith is doing a good policing job but I wish they would be mroe fair and also police themselves trying to reign in on extreme anti palestinian and anti moslem rhetoric by some groups associated with Israel or Jewsih organizations. You cannot just have it one way. I strongly believe that if you want your rights respected, then you have to set the example by respecting rights of the others, and Israel has a long way to go doing just that when it comes to the rights of the occupied teritories.
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Perry Smith from Canada writes: It is not surprising how many hate comments are against Jews and Israel, in fact I am surprised that complaints are not made against the G&M support of more hateful comments about the US, Canadian soldiers, UK, Israel and so on. At the end of the day many will hate all kind of people, including Jews and Israelis; that does not change the reality. Actually I am surprised that the Electronic Anitfada site was not subject to complaints as that’s site conveys the same BS. Most of the comments, including some above, are uneducated and plane wrong. I do not wish to get into a “debate” and allow the fanatics to spew their venom, but as a Canadian I say that we must address this hateful trend because it provides support to Islamists Fanatics in our country and does not provide any solutions. If you look at what was accomplished in Israel over the past 50 years and what the Arabs accomplished over the past 50 years you will understand the jealousy and envy that propels this hate. Any time you want to learn why the Islamists hate I will be happy to provide you with some moderate Muslim points of view.
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A A from Montreal, Canada writes: Hi there Rain Drop from Toronto:
You asked "How is stating that Israel is an illegal state anti-semetic?"
In response, I suggest you look at the statement underlying your question.
In point of FACT, Rain Drop, Israel is not an illegal state, so why would anyone answer your question since it is based upon an erroneous statement.
Oh, and that is spelled "anti-Semitic", by the way. Somehow, I'm not surprised that I am correcting your spelling, too.- Posted 24/05/07 at 4:24 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Midtown Bob from Toronto, Canada writes: To Robert Schmidt, you crack me up.
Don't confuse hate with not caring about your cause.- Posted 24/05/07 at 4:27 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Perry Smith from Canada writes: Here is an example of wrong and inflammatory comment often posted in this site by the same poster named Truth seeker. Not only is he wrong but he paints the Israelis as “invaders” “ethnic-cleansers” and so on. He forgets that the Jews were in Israel for over 4,000 years as archeologists have proved. He misstates that it was 4 Arab armies came to help the Palestinians rather than 7 Arab armies came to “through” the Jews into the sea as the Hamas wishes to do, and on and on and on. One can write whatever they wish but it does not make it true or right. “The Arabs were not legally required to accept Israel’s opportunistic declaration of independence under a non-binding resolution such as UN 181. Four weak Arab armies (the Lebanese did not cross) then entered Palestine to defend the Palestinians being ethnic-cleansed, terrorized and even massacred by the Israeli invaders. The Arab armies fought the Israeli invaders mostly outside the ‘UN-partition’ Jewish state and inside the proposed Palestinian Arab state (contrary to the Israeli myth that Israel was under ‘existential threat’). But what were the Zionists invaders and ethnic cleansers doing inside the proposed Palestinian Arab state”
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Matthew Peterson from Toronto, Canada writes: Go have a look at the site. To put it in context / get a sense of the varieties of nut who write in, there are calls for democratic global socialism (nevermind the oxymoronics), confusion as to how Jews and Israelis differ, and little knowledge of the Middle East in general.
I'd like to see the Globe, or a more intelligent media outlet, do an investigation on the Druz Muslims who fight in the Israeli army and believe unequivocally in the right and necessity of an Israeli state. Might break a few misconceptions around the watercoolers.- Posted 24/05/07 at 4:49 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Perry Smith from Canada writes: A quote: "Two million Christian/others enslaved/murdered by Islamic fascists in Sudan, 100,000 murdered in Algeria, 50,000 Kurds nerve-gassed by Saddam, and one million dead in the Iran/Iraq war. After Egyptian born/raised terrorist Arafat was expelled from Jordan in 1970 to Lebanon, he and fellow Islamic thugs proceeded to wipe out the Christians. With the help from Syria, over 100,000 Lebanese were killed. Egypt's large Christian (Coptic) community is being destroyed. Islamic fascist thugs in India, Nigeria and Russia, murder thousands. Israel has nothing to do with any of this and didn't invade Kuwait. Pakistan/Iran aren't even Arab. When Egypt/Jordan occupied the West Bank/Gaza in 1949, Jews/others were murdered. Jerusalem's Christian community fell by 61 percent under Jordanian occupation. When Israel liberated the territory in 1967 (without any American help), we now have religious freedom. Thousands of Arabs sided with Israel, which has three Arab generals. Arabs vote in Israel. While the 650,000 Palestinians left under orders from their leaders in 1948, 650,000 Palestinians were expelled from Kuwait and Saudi Arabia after the Gulf War and 850,000 Jews were driven out of surrounding Islamic states. The UN multiculturalism cesspool ignores all of this. The UN leftist cesspool, Jew bashers and Islamic fascists hate America for what we represent. Our secular culture of freedom, reason, capitalism, individualism and individual rights, the rule of law, and secular government is hated because they want an authoritarian society where thought and behavior are controlled by true believers. That is why America is great, and that's why they hate us. Making Israel another Czechoslovakia won't change that. President Bush and our troops have my full support as does Israel, India and any other democracy fighting terrorist thugs. "
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p m from vancouver, Canada writes: This is still a free country and people are allowed to express their opinions without someone else editorializing or viewing those comments through their own perspective.
Many people are critical of Israeli policies and actions.
Group retribution;
Building a wall;
Over-reaction;
count the UN resolutions Israel won't abide by;
count the ratio of dead..palestinian to israeli.
These comments are NOT anti-semetic..as both players in the game are semites.
Israelis and their supporters do NOT further their cause by attacking those with valid views. They serve instead to entrench the overall viewpoint that Israelis won't listen to reason.- Posted 24/05/07 at 6:55 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Michael Tripper from Vancouver, Canada writes: perry your post is meaningless drivel meant to obscure the real issue - B'Nai Brith wants to control and limit all criticism of anything even obliquely related to judaism and jews and in a supposedly free country like Canada, special privileges for religious fanatics or anyone else cannot be abided.
Free speech is too important to toy with so perilously.- Posted 24/05/07 at 6:59 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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H W from Waterloo, Canada writes: Perry, you are delusional! The reason they hate you is not because they envy you, but because your blessed country keeps invading theirs and your CIA covertly tries to topple their governments (Cuba, Chile, Nicaragua Panama, Iran etc). As for Israel being such a great and wonderlful place, do you think it might have something to do with the 85 billion dollars of US taxpayer's money that got poured in it? This is not a case of hard work, but of complete subsidy. Israel draws more foreign aid money from the US than the entire rest of world - this is not charity - this is parasitism!
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P T from Canada writes: H W, are you saying that Jews have a propensity for achieving greatness everywhere else in the world except Israel, since you're so convinced that all of Israel's successes are due to hand outs? And where are the many successes of Israel's enemies, rife with oil dollars that would make foreign aid to Israel seem paltry?
I would argue that attempts at minimizing or dismissing Israel's achievements against all odds is latent anti-Semitism. It is certainly a popular refrain among known anti-Semites.
Also, to blame the conflict in the Middle East on "Jewish land theft" is certainly a skewed view of 20th century history.- Posted 24/05/07 at 7:45 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Eye Sore from Dog Pound, Alberta, Canada writes: "Imprisoning a Whole Nation" by John Pilger is, it seems to me, exactly
the kind of article that B'Nai Brith Canada would seek to censor. See:
http://www.antiwar.com/pilger/?articleid=11014
And you'll understand why B'Nai Brith has a long and censorship-friendly history of squelching free speec in Canada in order to protect its Israeli
co-religionists and their war-crimes and crimes against humanity.- Posted 24/05/07 at 7:54 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Anthony B from Sydney, NS, Canada writes: It's OK to advocate nuclear attacks on other countries and label other religions and cultures as evil but any criticism (legitimate or not) of Israel or Jews is taboo. How many more decades will organizations like B'nai Brith continue to play the "H" card and why should the rest of the world be intimidated and accept guilt for the actions of a bunch of fascists in a far-off country almost 70 years ago?
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Perry Smith from Canada writes: “Islam enjoys a large and influential ally among the non-Muslims: A new generation of “Useful Idiots,” the sort of people Lenin identified living in liberal democracies who furthered the work of communism. This new generation of Useful Idiots also lives in liberal democracies, but serves the cause of Islamofascism — another virulent form of totalitarian ideology. Useful Idiots are naïve, foolish, ignorant of facts, unrealistically idealistic, dreamers, willfully in denial or deceptive. They hail from the ranks of the chronically unhappy, the anarchists, the aspiring revolutionaries, the neurotics who are at war with life, the disaffected alienated from government, corporations, and just about any and all institutions of society. The Useful Idiot can be a billionaire, a movie star, an academe of renown, a politician, or from any other segment of the population. Arguably, the most dangerous variant of the Useful Idiot is the “Politically Correct.” He is the master practitioner of euphemism, hedging, doubletalk, and outright deception. The Useful Idiot derives satisfaction from being anti-establishment. He finds perverse gratification in aiding the forces that aim to dismantle an existing order, whatever it may be: an order he neither approves of nor he feels he belongs to. The Useful Idiot is conflicted and dishonest. He fails to look inside himself and discover the causes of his own problems and unhappiness while he readily enlists himself in causes that validate his distorted perception. Understandably, it is easier to blame others and the outside world than to examine oneself with an eye to self-discovery and self-improvement. Furthermore, criticizing and complaining — liberal practices of the Useful Idiot — require little talent and energy. The Useful Idiot is a great armchair philosopher and “Monday Morning Quarterback.”
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Perry Smith from Canada writes: HW , I am Canadian not Israeli, I am not even Jewish but I know what the Jews accomplished and I know what Islamists and their useful idiots are trying to destroy. Anyone can hate the Jews, many do, but that does not allow them to inflame hate under the cover of free speech. The Jews stand for their right just we do and I tip my hat to them. I am sure they don’t want another Europe 1936, do you old boy?
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siren call from alberta, Canada writes: Perry Smith -- are you the originator of the blogspots (name removed) reiterated here? You seem to be spamming this thread with quotations from those sites; or merely plagiarizing like a useful idiot.
Too bad the people your posts smear can't censure you for promotion of hate. Why is that I wonder?- Posted 24/05/07 at 10:05 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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james schauer from Toronto, Canada writes: Shame on B'nai Brith for such blatant hypocrisy; it's hard not to loose respect for them.
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james schauer from Toronto, Canada writes: Mr. Schmidt, should the suggestion that we should drop a nuke on Iran be considered 'hateful'? I suppose it should. Why didn't you flinch then? Or maybe we actually hate Muslims, not jews, since in fact WE ARE KILLING MUSLIMS RIGHT NOW. It seems that you have spun a very twisted tale.
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Cameron Reid from Canada writes: Ironic isn't it? B'nai Brith has evolved into a propaganda machine Goebbels would have been proud of.
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M R from Toronto, Canada writes: Most of the people who discuss Israel on this forum with such authority and passion have obviously never been there. The pervasive opinion seems to be that Israel is some massive, strong, rich, military superpower funded entirely by the United States and Diaspora Jews, a country of religious fanatics intent on grabbing land all over the Middle East. The fact is that you can drive from the easternmost point of Israel to its westernmost point in a matter of minutes. You can drive from north to south in a half-day. The country has one single international airport, a fact most people cannot believe because they envision a nation the size of Saudi Arabia. (In fact, a lot of people can't even find Israel on a map because the word Israel takes up more space than the country). The vast majority of Israelis are fanatically secular and are utterly disgusted by the religious population. A good percentage of Israelis aren't even Jewish. Many Jewish Israelis aren't White. A great many Israelis are desperately poor. Only the very, very rich own houses. Most live in apartments, which are rather small and not particularly nice by our standards. I point out these facts only because I get the sense that many people envision an Israel far different from what it actually is. There is nothing wrong with criticizing Israel. There is a lot for which Israel should be criticized. But when someone's criticism goes hand-in-hand with a vision of a country that is so entirely different from its reality, it is hard to take seriously.
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Simon Reedman from Ottawa, Canada writes: I fully support Israel's right to exist but criticizing the policies of the state of Israel does not make one an anti-semite. Taking land from the Palestinians is wrong and is no way to secure the long term security of the Israeli state.
Implement UN resolution 242.- Posted 25/05/07 at 12:41 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Fog Hat from Toronto, Canada writes: I didn't know "Israel" was a race....
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Lawrence Roy from Toronto, Canada writes: Jews are not a race,
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Brad Reddekopp from Hazelton, Canada writes: Canada is becoming a censors' paradise.
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alphonse warakomski from United States writes: If the so called state of israel were to settle its debt in equity and justice with the Palestinians there would be no problem. Israel however refuses to do this so the problem remains. When will the countries of the world stand up and make israel zionists settle this problem? The zionists must be brought to heel and forced to settle the problem. The articles described cause the zionists great fear because the point out the truth of the inequity and injustice that they have perpetrated upon the Palestinians. The zionist organizations then react to squelch the truth. However the truth will prevail and sooner or later the zionists will be force to face it.
Al Warakomski- Posted 25/05/07 at 8:50 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Greg Ohio from Cleveland, United States writes: Look at the response to Jimmy Carter's book. Equating criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism is modus operandi of those that want to prevent any pressure being applied on Israel to change it's practices. It's US-funded practices.
As for nuking Israel, they were not actually advocating nuking Israel, but highlighting the absurdity of planning to nuke Iran when Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons and Israel does.
Hopefully these posts are put back up immediately. In the meantime, they should be posted to a mirror site abroad.- Posted 25/05/07 at 8:54 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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John Hynde from montreal, Canada writes: There is a whole network of these organizations in the US which 'monitors' websites, newspapers and even university campusses to suppress any possible criticism of Israel that may occur. Daniel Pipes and 'campuswatch' comes to mind as well as the ADL.
In addition, many newspapers, not in the least CanWest in Canada, are owned by Zionists so these 'monitoring' organizations can focus on peripheral media like this website. It is amazing that they are not content in just influencing the masses through their media ownership but simply want to suppress it all. What is even more typical, is that this seems to be happening most effectively in Anglo-Saxon countries such as the US and Canada and to a lesser extent in the UK suggesting there is something seriously wrong with the democratic system in those countries compared to other developed countries in both Asia and Europe. It would be interesting to see where these organizations get their funding (from the 3 billion $ the US sends to Israel yearly?) and who they are funding themselves (I am guessing, amongst others, Stevie 'measured response (I condone war crimes)' Harper.- Posted 25/05/07 at 9:07 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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The Iconoclast from Canada writes: B'nai Brith is a very biased special interest group. I wish they could have dealt with all human rights and hate issues more evenhandedly, irrespective of race or ethnic origins.
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Bubba Jones from Toronto, Canada writes: Does criticism of political policies equate to hatred of the people of that nation?
B'nai Brith's success in havnig these articles removed shows a great strategy for how those that believe in justice and peace can confront the institutions that promote death and oppression.- Posted 25/05/07 at 9:56 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Jeremy kuyle from Canada writes: whats the difference between an article advoacating the destruction of Israel and an article advocating the invasion of Iran? I see plenty of war pimping in the media regarding Iran and a lot of inflammatory rhetoric about Iranian ledaership and their attitudes. I just fail to see the difference between these kinds of news items and an essay advocating war against Israel.
- Posted 25/05/07 at 12:26 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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E Newell from Abbotsford, Canada writes: What is especially significant to me about B'nai Brith's most recent imposition of censorship is that they now include criticism of "citizens of Israel" as being racist. Well, I for one, believe that there is much to criticize about the state of Israel and its policies - particularly toward Palestinians - and I am not going to allow B'nai Brith to stop me from saying so!!!
- Posted 25/05/07 at 1:17 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Byron L. Jolley from Toronto, Canada writes: The 'fine line' which seems to exist between freedom of speech and promotion of hatred appears to be exaggerated by the person reading or perceiving the information. If one type of person doesn't like something, then 'free speech be damned' and 'I am right and you are wrong' attitudes. There are very many moaners of the blues out there and the least little thing they don't like...then it MUST be bad for all of us. Bottom line...if you don't like what is being written...don't read it.
- Posted 25/05/07 at 5:36 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Major T.J. Kong from Canada writes: So I suppose B'nai Brith will next target the New Testament for its alleged anti-semitic portrayals.
- Posted 25/05/07 at 7:20 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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otmar zambo from Canada writes: I do not care for semites whether they are jews or muslims. does that make me a racist? If so, so be it. Do we have to LOVE everyone?
I don't! Especially if they constantly look for problems and accuse eveyone else of being racist!- Posted 28/05/07 at 1:44 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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