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Scientists find the dinosaur-killer

MATT TREVISAN

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Latest comment posted at 3:00 PM EDT 06/09/07

Asteroid that hit Earth 65 million years ago came from massive collision in region between Mars and Jupiter, scientists say ...Read the full article

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  1. Yukon Sean from Land of the Midnight Sun, Canada writes: I thought Adam and Eve ate the dinosaurs.
  2. Stude Ham from Outremont, Canada writes:

    another version of the so-called big bang theory... but this time brought down to the level of the dinosaur ... creatures that took over 5 million years to finally disappear.

    nice try science fictionists...
  3. Paul Collins from Toronto, Canada writes: Hasn't anyone here read Immanuel Veilkovsky's Worlds in Collision?
  4. Clive Gingell from Ottawa, Canada writes: "The less one knows about science, the more plausible Velikovsky's scenario appears".... --Leroy Ellenberger

    "I would not trust any alleged citation by Velikovsky without checking the original printed sources". -- Michael Friedlander

    :-)
  5. The Wet One from Edmonchuk, Canada writes: 5 million years to disappear? Citation please.

    As for the theory discussed herein, if we could get a piece of the asteroid still out there and perhaps differentiate it from all the other asteroids so we could be sure that the Chicxulub impactor was of the same originating material, we'd have some more evidence to back up their theory.

    In the meantime, blah blah blah blah, but interesting stuff all the same.

    I wonder what collision in a far away place, at another time has our name on it?

    Hmm.....
  6. Bob McDonald from Canada writes: Hey, Stud Hambone. The idea that it took 5 million years for the dinos to die out has been hashed about long enough. No serious students of that topic believe this idea anymore. Most now believe that the reduced number of fossils was caused by any number of other things. The absolute terminus in fossils is still very abrupt suggesting a catastrophic event. Also the world wide spread of iridium at that time is oddly consistent and so, very compelling evidence of a major meteor impact.

    This study of asteroid orbital history is fascinating. I wonder if they can also follow the orbital history of Earth. I wonder what we could learn from that - particularly in terms of our ice ages, etc.
  7. mondo pinion from Canada writes: Something bad happened to the moon. You can just feel it when you look at it in the full phase. As if it could have been living somehow and was slain, or broken. Nutty sounding I know, but I know other ordinary people who feel it too.
  8. James Cyr from Balmertown Ontario, Canada writes: This certainly an interesting theory which may or may not be true. Evidence indicates its validity. "Worlds in Collision" by Immanuel Veilkovsky, however, is a bit far fetched, as it is based not on evidence, but ancient legends that can not be time-correlated.
  9. Raptor Fan from toronto, Canada writes: somebody send this to John Tory...
  10. Stude Ham from Outremont, Canada writes:

    Bob McDonald from Canada writes: Hey, Stud Hambone. The idea that it took 5 million years for the dinos to die out has been hashed about long enough.

    OK old McDonald... so how many years did the dinos last after the famous whump in that mexican crater? Was it one month? 2 years? 10,000 years? 100,000 years? 2 mega years? or was it 6,000 years as john tory would like our children to learn in public schools?

    science fictionism is so much fun!
  11. Ranald Walton from Hamilton, Canada writes: It is too rich to hear slurs about John Tory being a "social conservative dinosaur" from Liberals. These attacks and attempts to smear Tory in to this camp are understandable given the complete inability of that wimp McGuinty to defend his "no new taxes" lie (A good offense is a good defense).

    John Tory is not a creationist but Dalton McGuinty is a liar.
  12. R. M. from Regina, Canada writes: Tick, tick, tick, tick......................
  13. Tom McMallow from Canada writes: I do not appreciate the tone of many comments to the G&M. Always making light of Libs, Cons, Xtians, Muslims, etc. Are the readers of this paper so low?
  14. Iain Scott from Calgary, Canada writes: Apparently this rock missed John Tory and his theory that science education should be "inclusive of all religions". Even Stelmach does not believe curriculum should be steered by politicians.
  15. harry carnie from Northern, B.C., Canada writes: However it was created.................it is a spectacular ,wondrous, Universe...........surely we can ALL agree on that!
  16. colin broughton from Edmonton, Canada writes: Half-pound Tory certainly is getting a rough ride for recognizing young earthers as a branch of scientific endeavor. Has anyone asked him if his inclusive approach would include the G13 Church of the Universe in Toronto? Their "theory" is that God found the universe under a cannabis leaf. Tory would just love their scientific method.

    As for the stereotyped image of the ignorant Alberta, I would point out that this province produces almost as many world-class scientists as Ontario, unadjusted for population.

    BTW I am a bit surprised that no one has asked how we know the age of Tycho crater on the moon.
    I anxiously await tomorrow's issue of Nature!
  17. Andrew Slater from Canada writes: This kind of article is beneath the level I expect of the G&M. The title screams out "Scientists Find the Dinosaur Killer" but the article uses words like "...is believed to...", "...may have originated...", "...researchers argue..., "... more than 90 per cent sure...", ...70 per cent probability..." There really is nothing there but some supposition that some astronomers are trying to convince people of. They need more than 70% or 90% to convince anyone but themselves. The headline was misleading and just wrong.
  18. Darren X from Toronto, Canada writes: James said: ""Worlds in Collision" by Immanuel Veilkovsky, however, is a bit far fetched,"

    This is the understatement of the evening. It is not "a bit far-fetched", it is utterly and howlingly ludicrous from the first page to the last.
  19. Keen Observer from Toronto, Canada writes: To R. M. from Regina: my very thought.
  20. James Cyr from Balmertown, Canada writes: Darren X: okay, no argument there. I stand corrected!
  21. mondo pinion from Canada writes: There's another interesting book along the lines of Veilkovsky which I stumbled across in our library -- it is a reinterpretation of the legend of Tiamet from prehistoric middle eastern culture, seen not as a war between the gods before humanity existed, but as the formation of our solar system through a series of catastrophic collisions of planets and asteroids. Planets as beings. Far fetched but also very intriguing, and a fun winter's read. And the author suggests, based on this myth, that our solar system may include one largish planet with an extremely eccentric orbit, which transits the centre of our system every few hundred thousand years (as I remember), perhaps causing the loss of water on Mars, and some catastrophic collision which resulted in the asteroid belt. If this happened to be so, its transit would repeatedly disturb all stable orbits in its path, and computers would not be able to trace planetary motion back beyond that transit with any accuracy.
  22. Roland Neissinger from Latteville, Canada writes: Cosmic pinball, who knows when we are hit next out of nowhere.....
  23. Time Out from Canada writes: Try as you might Stupid Ham and other liberal hacks of note, John Tory does not endorse the teaching of creationism in the public school sytem in Ontario, despite the G&M and your simple minded best efforts to convince otherwise. He does however support parents who want the freedom to make there own choices, with there own tax dollars, which despite the contempt you hold for them as biggoted secularists, should still be their right. My belief in evolution, which is unquestionable, is my belief. As long as "believers" don't try and shove creationalism down my throat, then I won't try and do the same to them.
  24. mondo pinion from Canada writes: that's spelled Velikovsky by the way --
  25. F/A josquin from van, Canada writes: timeout ---- creationism is a rotting pile of superstitious, wishful thinking. there is no defence for it. Simply because it is the chosen deception of a few religions does not give it the justifiable credence some demand.

    It is not a science----- it is a belief, and a childish one at that. I will not give respect where none is due.
  26. mike h from sunland, Canada writes: The topic that should be argued/discussed is The Rock Named Apophis: Gonna swing inbetween the Earth &Moon in 2029 and by scientific extrapolations, should make an impact in 2036. Now, This is something that we should be focussing our attention on, not muslims hiding in caves with box cutters. Besides, ah, I'll leave it at that. The Cons are out.
  27. Chuck the Canuk from Moncton, Canada writes: Another guess. Yawn......... What morons these so called scientists are. They look more and more like age guessers in the carnivals, only not as accurate. Get a real job, no one cares how or why or WHEN the T Rex disappeared.
  28. Eric Stewart from Canada writes: I miss Louis Alvarez.... he'd really enjoy this new debate.....
  29. Eric Stewart from Canada writes: mike h from sunland, Canada writes: The topic that should be argued/discussed is The Rock Named Apophis: Gonna swing inbetween the Earth &Moon in 2029 and by scientific extrapolations, should make an impact in 2036.' Whose scientific extrapolations? The same ones who came up with Al Gore's 'hockey-stick graph'?
  30. Jack Jones from Canada writes: mondo pinion I had a tuff time figuring out what you were trying to say about the moon being hurt then i went and had a hit of the old bong, maybe two and now i totally get it man cool thanks
  31. William T from Chilliwack, Canada writes: My research show that the Dinosaurs were actually taken out by a MASSIVE collision between the Moon and ...Uranus.
    Prove me wrong!
  32. Garrett Deyne from mississauga, Canada writes: There 90% sure? Everyone knows 73% of statistics are made up. 2 out of 3 people know that.
  33. Tu blairy from Richmond, Canada writes: There's this new thing called, 'the scientific method' that a great deal of scientists like to use. Most wouldn't, for example, make a statement of fact, such as, "Scientists find dinosaur killer" even after having a very sound theory. The case as presented in this article doesn't even qualify as a hypothesis. I would prefer to call this an OYA (OuttaYerAss) suggestion, based neither on fact nor reasonable conjecture. My OYA (OMY) asto why the dinos disappeared goes like this:. Luke Skywalker blew up the death star and a big fragment of that hit the earth 65 million years ago, having been blown up 100 million years before, some distance from earth (being exactly the distance that a death star fragment would travel in 100 million years, give or take two). This came to me, oddly enough, during a visit to the loo. Such 'suggestions' as postulated herein by myself, within the article , or by incredible scientific establishments such as the Creations should be taken with equal weight and the reliquished to their proper place, which is in the garden as fertilizer.
  34. Iain's Opinion from Canada writes: Too many lunatics, is it a full moon tonite?
  35. Journey Man from Ontario, Canada writes: I don't understand why it is acceptable in Ontario to publicly fund a religion that believes that the pope is "infallible", or that their people are regularly performing "miracles" to earn canonization, but it is not acceptable to fund other religious educations that believe things that are just as unlikely...such as Fred & Wilma had a pet dinosaur.

    Let us please stop this nonsense and vote for the Greens. They are the only ones with a plan to resolve this mess...one publicly funded school system, teaching scientifically sound science classes.
  36. John Williams from Ajax, Canada writes: We should ask John Tory about this. Clearly he believes that GoD created the dinosaurs, and perhaps Satan killed them off? Or maybe God killed them to make room for Fred Flintstone? The Creationists hate science as it proves that Life evolved by accident, and that sorta is an Inconvenient Truth for them. I guess they have not heard that god is dead...killed by the facts.
  37. Eric Stewart from Canada writes: That asteroid was nothing more than one of God's foul balls.... he just didn't get enough bat on it when he swung. Yeah, God did it... that's the ticket......

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