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Latest comment posted at 11:29 PM EST 20/12/07

Two small flaps on the Canucks' netminder's leg pads create controversy, reports Grant Kerr ...Read the full article

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  1. George Hall from Canada writes: It becomes ridiculous to have to make the nets bigger because of the gigantic goalie equipment.
    Goalie equipment should be for the purpose of protecting the netminder from injury for the most part.
    The NHL should supply the equipment to stop the grotesque equipment and it would encourage more skill.
  2. umberto umeboshi from COTU, Canada writes: The goal should be kept the same size and the goalie equipment size better regulated. Puck impact protection concerns are probably baseless; such protection is a function of pad thickness, not width.
  3. Quellcrist Falconer from Canada writes: Turco and the Stars are just trying to throw Luongo off his game. Sounds like something Hull came up with. Not sure it will amount to much. Its not Cloutier they're messing with.
  4. Just The Facts from Canada writes: The NHL must reduce the size of goalie padding - it is just way too large... even I could stop 40% of shots in the NHL wearing a Michelin Man outfit.

    Check out the goalies & their small pads from the 60's, 70's & 80's:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErKUEKW4cSQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSeW3gYEPFY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK1XVjxltYw
  5. Open Mike from Vancouver, Canada writes: 'This season the Canucks have a record of 1812-4' and the Canucks are still out of first place. Boy, is that Western Conference ever competitive.
  6. William Parkyn from Calgary, Canada writes: Just make the goalies smaller... no need to change the size of the net or the pads...besides it would allow all those undersized players to have a place in the New NHL
  7. Albin Forone from Toronto, Canada writes: I want to see the Hall of Fame Manager who is the first to draft a 7/0 350 pound goalie.
  8. troy rathbone from waterloo, Canada writes: goalies equip smaller i agree,but also get rid of composite stick,makes a middle of the shooter into a blasting shot,not through skill but equipment only
  9. garlick toast from Canada writes: the one thing i admire about mlb.is that they retained the wooden bat.the nhl should dump the composite stick and only allow a wrap of fibre glass on the blade.
    the goalie pads and gloves are too big.so are the shoulder pads on skaters.
  10. dan vanman from vancouver, Canada writes: This is ridiculous. Another non-stiry from Mr. Kerr. The reason the 'flaps' are a little bigger for Luongo is because he is a little bigger.

    The Stars must be really scrambling to try such lame crap.

    I guess when you're the best, people will try anything...
  11. James C. from Chaozhou, Guangdong, China writes: 'Albin Forone from Toronto, Canada writes: I want to see the Hall of Fame Manager who is the first to draft a 7/0 350 pound goalie.'

    __________

    it would help more if the goalie was 5 ft tall and 500lbs. that shoud just about cover the entire net.
  12. D G from Canada writes: Rosanne Barr could become the first female to play in the NHL, and she can sing the national anthem too! That would be no more of the fiasco than goaltenders who just have to drop to a butterfly position and not move a inch. Watch a Ken Dryden video sometime. He was 6'4' I believe and hardly covered any of the net. No a days every goalie takes up over half the net. Let's bring some skill back into goaltending.
  13. dan vanman from vancouver, Canada writes: Come on now guys. Are we saying that goalies are not allowed to be big? How silly. They have made the pads small enough already. Unless they ban composite sticks, any further reduction will risk a goalie being seriously injured.

    Any drive to bring the goalies pads down any smaller cannot happen without banning composite sticks.
  14. David C from Canada writes: Oh boy Oh boy! Maybe if we keep going this way we can get the 'trash talk' flowing in hockey like it does in other sports (heavy on the sarcasm here).

    I'm not a Canucks fan but whatever point Turco and Smith are trying to make is lost in their ridiculous delivery. Even I have to admit that Luongo is one of the best in the game. To suggest the flaps on his pads have anything to do with this makes them look pretty bad in my books.
  15. Clark The Mighty from Canada writes: He's a cheater!

    35 game ban and big fine for that garbage organization!

    GO LEAFS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  16. P McLean from Canada writes: Anyone who says making goalie equipment any smaller will result in injury needs to explain the following to me:

    I have calves that are big enough that people make comments about them when I am out running. At their widest point they are not 5 inches across. What on earth do I need 11 or 12 inches of padding across for? Why won't 8 give me the same protection? The only thing that shot 4 inches outside of my calf would hurt is my goals against average with the smaller pads.

    The equipment is lighter and stronger. Bigger doesn't protect any more that the normal size, it just gets in the way of the puck, which is what the goalies are trying to cover up when they pull the safety card. Picture a goalie with no equipment lining up to stop a shot. If the shot would him, then there should be padding there. If it would miss him, there's no protection issue because it wouldn't hit him anyway. Why does he need big pads to protect from a shot that wouldn't touch him were it not for his padding?
  17. dan vanman from vancouver, Canada writes: Clark, go away and let the adults talk. You are permantly banned to the kiddies table, as you just can't keep that big mouth shut. Every statement you make is stupid. BTW, that 'garbage organization' will win the Cup before your Laffs ever do again. The Laffs are the worst Canadian team right now. With classy fans like you supporting them, I can only say karma must work.

    P Maclean...I see your point. Maybe it has to do with when they go into the butterfly, the tops of the pads cover their thigh muscles. The pads then go straight down. Also, they mould arouond the side of the leg a bit on the inside, offering protection from sharp angle shots.

    They are thinner now than ten years ago.

    The michelin man shoulder pads are the ones that get to me.
  18. Another Opinion from Toronto, Canada writes: Take a regular sheet of paper out of your printer. It's 8 1/2 by 11 inches. Now turn it so that it's in landscape alignment and hold it in front of your leg. How much clearance do you see on either side of your knee? Three inches? More?

    Let's say you're a big-boned guy with some sort of deformity that makes your knee seven inches wide. (first of all... ewww) Now do you REALLY believe that with today's plastic composite materials that two inches of padding on either side of your leg is NOT enough to protect it?

    Goalie equipment is quite simply a joke. It's ludicrously oversized and serves no meaningful purpose whatsoever except to take up space. I don't know why the NHL considers shutouts to be accomplishments. Frankly, given that these guys sometimes TRIPLE in size once they put the equipment on, I'd say any goalie who DOESN'T get 10-15 shutouts a year should be sent back to the minors.
  19. Mariposa Belle from Leacockland, Canada writes: The Stars are just trying to get the best goalie in the NHL off his game.

    The size of the equipment the problems. The Goalies Union (of which I am a member) has manipulated the sport to accept the same sizes for the equipment, without adjusting for the advances of technology. The pads are much the same size as they were in the 60's when they were filled with horsehair and straw wrapped in water soaked leather - try moving those suckers quickly in the third period.

    This will always be an argument - technology vs. tradition. My view is to cut down on the size of goalie equipment ( there is a lot more protection now then 30 years ago). If this is done, composite sticks must be banned.
  20. bob smith from Canada writes: I don't see a problem with the composite sticks. So guys can shoot 10% harder, big deal. It certainly doesn't give the goalie the right to be 40% bigger. The only thing they have done is given everyone a 90 mph shot. No one is tossing muffins out there anymore. The hardest shots today aren't any harder than they were 40 years ago. Like someone said, leg pads should be the width of the leg plus an inch or two. Blockers shouldn't be any wider than a regular player's glove. Catching gloves shouldn't be much bigger than a regular baseball glove. Shoulder pads shouldn't reach your ears....oh yeah, Garth Snow retired, scratch that one.
  21. Ryan Hickman from Canada writes: His equipment must be on steriods and human growth hormones! It's the only explanation that I can come up with.

    Hockey apparently does have a drug problem....whatever Turco and Smith were smoking is apparently some strong stuff.

    If you want to make things fair then standardize the equipment and supply the same stuff to each goalie. Lose the lucrative deals players have with manufacturers and go with the standard browns from back in the day.

    Heck I was a great road hockey goalie with foam pads, a baseball glove and a hockey stick. How hard can it be?
  22. Ziggy . from Canada writes: My problem is with the size of the trappers. The pocket for most is large enough to catch a basketball. Seeing how the goaltenders hand is not in the pocket what is the problem in limiting it to the size of a catchers mitt. Last I checked the hardest shot in the NHL is barely 100mph. An MLB closer with a fastball in this range is the norm. How many catchers are complaining they need a bigger mitt for protection?
  23. Bobby S from Toronto, Canada writes: That's it....piss off the best goalie in the world.
  24. Larry Robinson from white Rock, Canada writes: The flaps are at the knee flex point on the outside of the pad. This is a vulnerable area of the knee when the goalie is crouching or smothering a puck. I suspect the flaps provide knee protection during scuffles in the crease. The don't look substantial enough to stop a puck.
  25. dan vanman from vancouver, Canada writes: Clark...you are an idiot. It is racism, and you have been reported. My girlfriend is Chinese, and she has seen your intelligent remarks, both last night and previously. She thought it was racism. I did too.

    You live in a multicultural city, in a multicultural country. Show some class, rather than your shallow attempts at humour.

    Your idiotic comments on hockey are not worthy of responding to. I am sure one of the most profitable teams in the league (Vancouver), is going to move because of...what??? I tried reading your post again, and your logic escapes me.

    Luongo is a cheater? Have you seen the flaps they are talking about? They wouldn't even slow a puck down, let alone stop one. NHL approved too.

    This is the last response you get from me Clark. Hopefully, the moderators will ensure no one has to read your hate filled diatribes any more.

    To everyone else...Merry Xmas!!!
  26. Maximilian Widmaier from Vancouver, Canada writes: vanman, Clark has been shrieking this idiodic gibberish from his noise hole for as long as I can remember (last year it was as 'SENS_SUCK' or some such alternate). Just ignore him and he'll go back to trolling the Ottawa stories and wallowing in his own nonsensical vomit. Responding just gets him excited and he runs around the house with his little boner out making trouble for the family pets and embarassing his mommy in front of the house guests.

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