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  1. P Scott from Canada writes: I'm sorry--how many people did he kill? How much cocaine did he smuggle into the country? How many guns? WMDs? What terrorist watch-list is he on? Sexual predator lists? Oh, he sold seeds.

    But surely it's worth all the manpower/court time to nab this dangerous "hemphead"!

    (Green Jerry, all the other forums full?)
  2. Green Jerry from Canada writes: P Scott from Canada writes: I'm sorry--how many people did he kill? How much cocaine did he smuggle into the country? How many guns? WMDs? What terrorist watch-list is he on? Sexual predator lists? Oh, he sold seeds.

    __________
    He sold some 5 million dollars worth of "seeds" to people in the US. It's against the law. They look down on that. He's off to prison. Good. One less braindead addict for you idiots to worship as the "Prince of Pot". Maybe he'll get a nice prison "girlfriend" who'll love him for that.
  3. m mac from Canada writes: Can anyone tell me if a person who is convicted in another jurisdiction comes back to Canada to serve their sentence who pays, Canada or the country that convicts him or her? If it is Canada keep him in the States.
  4. J Norman from Edmonton, Canada writes: This whole process is ridiculous. Mr. Emery did not import anything into the USA. His customers did. They're the ones who broke American law. Mr. Emery and his business are based in Canada and therefore could not have broken American law.
  5. Green Jerry from Canada writes: J Norman from Edmonton, Canada writes: This whole process is ridiculous. Mr. Emery did not import anything into the USA. His customers did. They're the ones who broke American law. Mr. Emery and his business are based in Canada and therefore could not have broken American law.

    _____________
    Tell that to the USDOJ and State Department. I'm sure that will be cold comfort for your boy as he rots in Leavenworth.
  6. grover station from Hamilton, Canada writes: Mr. Emery said that over the years his business paid $350 000 in income tax. The Canadian government knew exactly where this tax money came from and they never said a word about it… interesting.
  7. Blind InTheSun from Canada writes: After hearing this man speak, I think that the only people that would find Marc Emery to be logical, reasonable and rational are potheads. If he wants to cruciphy himself to this cause, let him.
  8. Ruth Walker from Edmonton, Canada writes: This case is certainly not about seeds.

    Emery is wanted for funding anti Drug War campaigns. His crimes are political. The DEA even said so, and most bluntly.

    Canadians should not be allowing this to happen. All of us will be harmed by such a precedent, and the USA will be further emboldened to interfere with Canadian affairs.

    Political extraditions are an obscenity.
  9. D Dawger from The Coast, Canada writes: Regardless of whether you are a "pothead" or not (for some of the harsh redneck posters up there) you should check the polls on what people in this country really think, 70% support for the adjustment of the criminality of marijuana.

    I personally see this as a misuse of justice to silence a dissenter. These charges would never see the light of a courtroom in this country... therefore his extradition should not be approved. It's just another vien of american policy crossing the border.

    I have nothing but contempt for this witch hunt...
  10. Greg G from London, Canada writes: So Rob Ramage kills Keith Magnuson in a drunk driving crash and gets 4 years, while Emery who didn't really hurt anyone gets five. Something is seriously out of whack in the justice system.
  11. D Dawger from The Coast, Canada writes: Goodluck Marc.
  12. D K from Calgary, Canada writes: J Norman, from what I remember from Contract law (someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong). When it comes to mail the sale occurs where the recipent recieves it. So technically the transaction occured in the US and he is subject to American law just like if he was a drug dealer on the streets down there and he handed it straight to the guy.

    And to blame it solely on the person buying it... I might see your point if it was legal here and illegal there..maybe he didn't do he's research, honest mistake. BUT it's illegal in both countries, he knew he was breaking the law and he knew that jail was a consquence.
  13. ryan jensen from hamilton, Canada writes: Mr Emery was aware that what he did was illegal in the states. Selling seeds in Canada is not illegal. He can say he did it for ethical resons but the fact is Mr Emery not only openly challenged the DEA/CIA he would beat his chest and brag about the whole affair.

    Don,t forget the fact that Mr Emery is a millionaire as a result of his foray into the American market and he was or certainly should have been aware of the significant legal/life repercussions of his actions.

    I do support his belief that marijuana should be legal. I agree that it is an infringement on human rights to say I can smoke this plant but not that plant (tobacco v. marijuana) but to challenge the ruling Republican regime on a topic such as drug importation (but its not the drug its the seeds) is not only foolhearty but also proves the fact that pot does kill braincells cause what he did was stoopid and GREEDY.

    Could someone please tell me how to get my paragraph breaks to show in my comments. Thank you
  14. j adams from Winnipeg, Canada writes: I support the legalization of pot. I smoked it in my younger days and it is not the evil agencies like the DEA claim it to be. But I have to say that this guy is his own worst enemy. Let US citizens who support legalization take up the fight in their own country. By dallying into the war in the US he painted a target on his back, he knew it, he knew how powerful the anti-drug lobby is down there so this is of his own doing and choice. I have to agree with Blind InTheSun. Emery sounds like a looney when he's being interviewed and my advice to him would be to stop having a toke right before the camera gets turned on. I actually think having people like Emery as a spokeperson for this cause does it more harm than good. There are plenty of pot smoking professionals who can eloquently state their position and the injustices of criminality when it comes to pot but they don't make for good interviews and soundbites. The dam right wing media (I love saying that here, it stirs things up) alway makes sure they get the biggest idiot out there for their sound bites. That day in April when smokers go the the legislative building to smoke up in a prime example of this. They have these eloquent speakers standing on the steps giving logical and compasionate arguements on why criminalization is wrong but they are the ones that are never interviewed. The soundbite you see on the 6 o'clock news is always the unshaven peach fuzzed 19 year old with the Bob Marley hat still choking on the bong hit he had seconds before the camera was turned on him saying, "Gawd made pot, man". Hardly a good spokesperson if you ask me. But then again I think the media has a good deal of responsibility for the perpetuation of the pothead stereotype.
  15. D K from Calgary, Canada writes: Out of curiosity why would one prefer a Canadian Jail to a US Jail?

    Is there more corruption or violence in US jails? or is it a preference to stay closer to where loved ones can visit?
  16. Interested Observer from Vancouver, Canada writes: harper asked the US to impose their will - in Canada.

    Emery paid his fine for the crime - in Canada.

    US controls Canada.

    War on Drugs = US imperialism - fully 80% of CANADA support decriminalization.

    Shame on harper.
  17. globereader 1234 from toronto, Canada writes: Languish - "to undergo neglect or experience prolonged inactivity; suffer hardship and distress: to languish in prison for years" The US prison system is much harsher than Canada's - prisoners really languish there. In Canada there is recognition that an incarcerated person will eventually be free and reintegrate with society, so educational programs, and other activities that will hopefully advance the whole person who might be living next door to us one day are offered. The American prison system is also interested in making sure their prisoners are not heard from. If a prisoner tries to publish a book or hold regular media interviews, they're moved around to make it much harder or impossible for them. Conrad Black could hold regular court in a Canadian prison - the American system would (may) move him around so much that even he wasn't sure where he was (is)anymore. Some say the Canadian system is soft. But armchair critics likely haven't spent one day in a prison, American or Canadian, let alone years. And personally, if you have kids and an ex-con moves next door to you, would you rather he (or she) had stared at a wall for 4 years and developed a psychosis and gang friendships or would you rather he/she had occupied themselves learning a trade or degree and maintained some positive hope for the future?
  18. ryan jensen from hamilton, Canada writes: Ruth j from Edmonton. You are right man. He' unfairly being persecuted man. Cuase he was funding opposition to the man, man. He was a danger to the gop and they knew it, man.

    Not only was he funding anti drug war campains,man, but he knows who killed JFK, man.

    In this world it takes eloquence and facts to win a debate not hyperbole and misinformation.

    As some readers have already pointed out, he was his own worst enemy, and every time I ever saw him granted an opportunity by the media he was to stoned to formulate a coherant thought.

    In high school I used to give my class oratory stoned. By college i figured out things went better if I didn't get high for my presentation.

    Now as a grownup and a parent i live in fear that my child will spend his life in jail if he decides to smoke pot when the age approaches ( childs still a gradeschooler). In fact it gets me so worried i have to puff da pot just to ease my apprehension.

    It is truly amazing now, as an adult, how many established professionals i know who still partake, and we all think he was a pathetic self appointed spokesman.

    By the way, what anti-drug campaigns did he fund?????
  19. john douglas from greedville, Canada writes:
    People who smoke pot realize what a crock of crooked sh!t the current political and economic system is; the one controlled by hateful men like harper, bu$h and their corporate overlords- the real criminals.
    So demonizing pot and pot advocates is a logical response.

    JOIN THE GANJA REVOLUTION
    AND YOU WILL SEE THE TRUTH, MAN!!!!
  20. globereader 1234 from toronto, Canada writes: Ryan J - if you live in Canada, your child won't spend his life in jail for smoking pot.

    I don't know if it's an anti-drug campaign, but one project that Emery's spend a lot of money on apparently is a detox and personal motivation program to help individuals overcome hard drug addiction and overcome whatever personal demons they've self-medicated for. Maybe someone else posting here knows more about that.
  21. ryan jensen from hamilton, Canada writes: john douglas - are you on da weed man? Why would people who smoke pot and realize how crooked the system is decide to demonize pot and pot advocates??
  22. Frank Frink from writes: ryan jensen,

    selling seeds IS illegal in Canada, we just choose (correctly) not waste police and court resources to prosecute such activities. There are plenty of other seed selling businesses operating in Canada. You can see them here in storfront operations and such in Vancouver and other large cities.

    Emery has been singled out bu US authorities, pure and simple, for his activism and admitted financial support for drug law reforms.
  23. ryan jensen from hamilton, Canada writes: globereader 1234 - I too hold out optimism for our nation, however though i can not recite narcotics laws in this countryi do know enough to be aware of the laws to some degree. But thank you non the less for that informative bit about how if i live in canada my kid won't go to jail for life for smoking pot.

    Who knew?!!?

    See the part where i mention that he's still just a wee one?

    Can you ensure me by the time he is of age it'll still be as you say??
    Even when I enter my sixties and am potentially looking at grand children I will still fear for that possibility!!!

    Guess all I can do is educate him as to the evils of marijuana, play some of those propoganda movies while he's sleepy so as to ensure sub-conscious impressioning, and if all else fails,

    Clearly your honour- it was his mother's!! :)
  24. ryan jensen from hamilton, Canada writes: Frank Frink - as to whether a substance is illegal under the narcotics act ( and this is also how it works in most european countries also) a substance is illegal based upon its molecular structure. Hence the surge of designer drugs in the 80's 90's. Can't remember the book title but it was a sort of documentary on "the man" who brought us the designer drug frenzy. He was a So-Cal chem eng genius who realized that by merely adding a sub-molecule to drugs such as "mda" would yield something known as "mdma". He made millions AND could not be prosecuted because by the time the drug was recognized to be different, chemically analyzed, and legislated illegal the chemist would no longer produce and started making a new designer drug. The feds knew who he was AND what he was up to!! So they changed the laws to make it illegal to posess the root compounds and/or the ingredients required for fabrication. And because ANY plant seed is essentially all protein wrapped in a hard, sometimes tasty shell marijuana seeds managed to avoid being labeled as any class of narcotic. There is no thc in the seeds. They are NOT illegal in Canada. Fyi any seed will always be nutritiously high in protein low in fat because they are mostly dna.
  25. evelyn robinson from Canada writes: Time to go after American individuals and /or companies selling hand guns or tasers on the internet.
    And all those darn American based telephone solicitors that keep calling my home
  26. Greed, Exploitation, Vengeance, Rule the world, from everywhere under the sun, Canada writes: Mark Emery is a victim of hateful anti marijuana amerinazi system. The reasons are plain to see for anyone who isnt a brain dead green jerry type of hateful idiot who vomits his hate speech in these forums constantly. His posts are typical of beer guzzling fat assed lard butts who spend more time on their asses then anything else. Its wonder his back doesnt give out considering all the lard he has to carry around all day. The most excercise the man gets is getting in and out of his car and taking a hike to the bathroom several times an hour. Get in car, drive to hockey game, drink beer, eat hot dogs, drink some more beer, get in car, drive home. Do the same thing the next day, what a life.
  27. roddy heading from Toronto, Canada writes: " CONRAD BLACK'' another short haired Canadian maverick publisher got SIX YEARS in jail - and he didn't " harm anyone " or " act violently"- all he did was move money around inside a company which he owned himself, so whats the crime here? no violence or hard drugs or guns either, just taking home some ink printed on rectangular paper ( aka : money ) and then buying things.. and his co accused ratted on him and his lawyers couldn;t save his bnutt eityher--oh ya, because it was against the law,, sheesh,, ya that law thing again.. thats how Emery messed up and thats why he is headed into jail.. for -breaking -the- law- not because of his beliefs but because of his actions.....and compared to Connie B, Marcie Poo got off creamy easy..
  28. N B from Canada writes: The police in Canada have better things to do. I hope the cops south of the border can find something more interesting to do. This is a giant waist of money.
  29. Joe Gopher from Canada writes: For anyone who thinks that smoking pot doesn't affect your intelligence, how smart was it for Emery to ship marijuana to the US?
  30. Pickman's Modem from Canada writes: Marc Emery is so frustrating. I am all for the legalization of the plant, but the guy is such a tool -- the best thing that the guy could do for himself is to never, ever talk to the media.

    That being said, I think that this is a total miscarriage of justice. Why is it Canada turned a blind eye to this for so long? Why are we allowing a citizen be tried for something we don't consider a crime worth persecuting someone for?

    Creepily -- the National Post even says that this is total BS situation. http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/Story.html?id=238203
  31. Eddie 'mush' Montanaro from montreal, Canada writes: Instead of wasting time on a man selling seeds, the U.S. should focus on finding Bin Laden or perhaps finding a crop for farmers to grow in Afghanistan other than poppies.
  32. happy facer from Toronto, Canada writes: I am shocked that nobody has set up a betting pool: and set odds..

    "What will be Emery's fate?"

    1) walks away a hero changes the pot laws
    2) 10 days house arrest w/o sauna privlidges
    3) gets another small fine
    4) 2 years in Canadian jail
    5) 5 years in a Canadian jail
    6) 5 years in an American jail
    7) 10 years in a selection of jails
    8) 30 years in an American jail
    9) 25 years of community service in Vancouver
    10) it was all a dream- he's the prince of Pot
    and if he doesn't think its valid, it just isn't

    The guy is a repeat offender, raked in millions of dollars annually selling pot seeds for $25 each to International stoners. Each seed grew into mother plants that provided hundreds of clones for commercial grow opps. If we can do the math, so can the DEA.
    Herr Emery's bellicose money grubing mantra of " Overgrowing the Government " brought the Drug War to Canada..he knew the risks he was taking breaking the law, and decided to break the law rather than work to change it. As we can see now that the gig is up, Emery pushed the Pot decrim momentum back 20 years .. No future government will seriously consider legal pot ever again. It's now too late to legalize marijuana.. thanks to Marc Emery.

    On with the Vancouver Olympics !
  33. Mrs. Whiggins from Canada writes: Joe Gopher from Canada writes: For anyone who thinks that smoking pot doesn't affect your intelligence, how smart was it for Emery to ship marijuana to the US?

    * Posted 21/01/08 at 8:01 PM EST

    Ionno Gopher. Why don't you show us when the DEA cannot: where, when or how Emery shipped marijuana to the US?

    It's a bogus charge; selling seeds is not a crime in Canada. It's a dereliction of duty for Canada to allow a tax-paying Canadian citizen to be shipped off to another country on a charge that is not illegal in Canada. If Canada took the income tax from a bona-fide business in Canada, then Canada has a responsibility to protect said Canadian from prosecution in banana republics with draconian laws.

    Good grief, if Conrad Black had done his deeds in Canada we'd have him here, wouldn't we? Canadians are still on tenterhooks waiting to find out how Mulroney got his $100,000 or mere $75,000 out of New York 15 years ago. And Mulroney wasn't advertising or doing business in front of God and anybody, was he? Why should Emery become the whipping post?

    If Marc Emery gets shipped off to a foreign country, never ever shall Canada accept that convicted criminal Black back on our soil until he's served every minute of every day of every year of his sentence. Also, Canada will be beholden to ship off any Canadian deemed by a foreign country to have broken its laws, and compelled to be shipped off to face charges as raised.

    Are Canadians all right with that? I don't think so.
  34. Mrs. Whiggins from Canada writes: happy facer, you are wrong. Marc Emery was a millionaire before he started advocating for marijuana. It was never about money with Emery, which is why he is and remains an anomaly, and outlier, a rebel with a cause that defies all common sense for those who poo-poo pot in public, but turn a blind eye or partake in private. It has been so ever since Canada succumbed to the prohibition era and religious fanaticism of the states almost 100 years ago.

    Canada was never lock-step with the States, I don't understand why we would want to try now. Canada ran an underground railroad rescuing slaves and newly released 'free-men', and was instrumental in freeing people here in North America and likely around the world.

    As a Canadian, I take umbrage in the fact that a Canadian can be taken from our soil for conducting legal business in Canada and giving the economy the good old supply-and-demand template of the US a good run for it's money.

    Next thing you know, Canada's going to have some Ayatollah demanding a Canadian who dared to doff a bathing suit and splash in the Arabian Sea after hookahs be handed over for punishment.

    There's a clause in Canadian law that demands that Canada serve and protect its people. I expect Canada to follow that most innate principle. Otherwise, what is a Canada for?
  35. Lindy Vop from Toronto, Canada writes: Green Jerry from Canada. You are not from Canada. You are not pro freedom. You are a disgrace to liberty. You defend bad laws in the same way that if it was still the law you would support slavery. You know nothing of compassion.
    Nobody has ever died from smoking pot. You can't overdose on it. It is medicine for sick people, fun for others who choose to smoke it instead of drinking alcohol because they don't like booze. Visit www.leap.cc to see what smart cops are saying about prohibition. Then stop trying to control everyone else. BE CIVIL FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!
  36. Shar123 gorde from vancouver,bc, Canada writes: it is about time we all stand up for our right to be free from tyranny from within our space. mister bush take your personal crusade and cramit wherethe sun never shines. power to the free thinking people of the world. freedom forever!
  37. happy facer from Canada writes: Mrs Wiggins... please correct your notes.. Marc Emery was _ NOT_ a millionare before he started selling Pot seeds.. he was a humble used book nseller in London, sold his store to his employees and went to India , returned to canada dead broke in 1994.. started to sell hempy stuff and bongs and scraping by began to publish Cannabis Culture-- he saw that the big money was in selling pot seeds so he quickly transformed his pot magazine into a Pot Seed catalogue with some ads, articles and artywort. _THEN _HE_ BECAME_ A_ MILLIONARE- from selling pot seeds, not from any other activity His magazine loses money, his other publishing projects lose money- the pot seed income paid for all his activism and stabs at getting elected..with the pot seed money taken away, Marc Emery is just another struggling stoner gift shop owner in a drug slum..iron security bars on the windows & doors at night etc. and he is certainly NOT A MILLIONARE ANYMOR-- no seed income no financial success-- his enduring legacy will be how much debt he left behind
  38. happy facer from Toronto, Canada writes: Today at 1 pm EST Marc Emery will hold a press conference in Vancouver to tell the 420 community why he is accepting the dog collar of a plea bargain..he may blame his actions on saving his co accused with the incurable disease only potmedicine can cure from "certain death in a US jail" but she looks pretty healthy to us..she has certainly not stepped forward to thank him, she is running as fast and as far away from the dope dulled Prince as she can..Emery is a politician..do you believe other poiliticians? why would you believe him? Emery will sing any guilty plea he can to receive the shortest jail time possible..he might be crazy but he's not stupid.. His chemically compromised supporters can believe any Stoner saint version of events they want...However- fact remains as the only convicted Drug Lord in the world with a website, Marc Emery is busy packing his toothbrush today...even saints have to floss
  39. grover station from Hamilton, Canada writes: Emery should never have sold marijuana seeds to Americans; the last thing they need is to be more paranoid.
  40. globereader 1234 from toronto, Canada writes: Regarding Mrs. Whiggins, words, that "there's a clause in Canadian law that Canada serve and protect its people". Until 1834, blacks were not "people" in the eyes of Canadian law. Women weren't for decades after. Now corporations may be more "persons" than us. There is much the underground railroad and the anti-drug war movement have in common. The UR was known at the time as the "Freedom Trail". The superintendant of that UR was Frederick Douglass, a freed slave who spoke eloquently and often across North America and the world about the evils of slavery and his own personal experience. He even spoke in Toronto in the ballroom above old, old City Hall - the St. Lawrence Hall. His admirers included those who favoured a more humane interpretation of scripture vs. the American belief that used religion as a tool in the acceptance of slavery. He suffered violent raids by law enforcers at his U.S. compassion clubs - rooms where he'd teach black children the alphabet, against the law at that time. Marc Emery may not be as consistently as eloquent an orator as Frederick Douglas, but he also pushed laws of the day to create a reverse Freedom Trail. For a lot of Americans, those seeds were a piece of freedom. Slavery may have been outlawed, but Nixon's War on Drugs was really a war on blacks of the inner cities, and to this day American incarceration stats expose the political theme of the drug war. Overlooking the eccentricities of Marc Emery and company's speaking tours, he traveled at his own expense to preach the idea of freedom. Silly? Well, what was one of Pierre Burton's last public acts? To roll a joint on camera, to out himself as a "toker". Freedom to make choices without undue state interference is FUNDAMENTAL justice. Frederick Douglass - "What to the American slave is the 4th of July? I answer a day that reveals to him more than all the other days of the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim."
  41. globereader 1234 from toronto, Canada writes: Happyfacer, your words show a willingness to publically argue within your own movement and even supporters who "don't have their facts right. A house divided against itself falls, and infighting is just what government hopes for. Take a lesson from the "tremendous community" of supporters of Vancouver's Laibar Singh. He's twice thwarted deportation not by the work of lawyers, but because of the cohesiveness of his supporters. Can you imagine a Laibar Singh supporter would accuse an interested person of not having their facts right or would they thank that person for their interest and encourage them to continue to add their support? Conrad Black has friends in high places who wrote character letters to the judge. Laibar Singh has a mosque to hide in and throngs of supporters willing to block access to him (risky). Marc Emery now needs every toker (and even non-toker), whether unemployed, a businessperson, a grandparent, a judge, or a chamber maid, to speak up loudly, long, and in every venue about the fundamental freedoms that Canadians stand for. Someone here said it was creepy the National Post wrote an editorial supporting Emery. I think it's wonderful that people from all walks of life realize the important precedent at stake here.
  42. happy facer from Toronto, Canada writes: Ok.. stand behind anyone you feel second placeto.. be that Marc Emery or the guy ahead of you at Tim Hortons. Go right ahead and lead the stoner hoards blocking Mr Emery from extradition: he is _not a helpless cripple - he is a convicted drug felon.. The fundimental freedoms you may be refering to is - one law for all.. not exceptions for hand picked favourites who made millions of dollars vending contraband across International borders..Yes , I agree it is wonderful that people from all walks of life realize the important preciedent at stake here-- and that is rule of law will not be pre empted because the occassional maniac aspires to be a media Ghandi for party drugs liberation.

    Let's just see how much prison time Herr Emery actually receives ..afterall, he is by his own frequent admissions > guilty. What did Stoner Society expect ? Had Mr Emery tried to change the law rather than break it maybe he
  43. globereader 1234 from toronto, Canada writes: Happyface, if you're not of the anti-drug war movement, how would you know if Marc Emery's co-accused ever thanked him or their state of health? Why would you bother to announce a 1pm press conference by Mr. Emery? Your words show you've been following his case for months - what is your personal interest here? Mine is for freedom of Canadians, and other freedoms this case can affect - press, religion, speech....etc. The physical blocking of Laibar Singh from extradition is obviously not what I feel should be emulated, but the spirit of cohesiveness of supporters. Don't you find it interesting that of all "drug felons" Emery was #1 most wanted for US drug crimes? A non-violent person who probably doesn't even know how to use a gun? I don't know if you ever watch "most wanted" shows, but there's some pretty bad people out there I'd rather have law enforcement spend time, money and effort on protecting me on rather than pissing away resources setting up a DEA office in vancouver and staking out Emery for half a year. Morality crimes - a Christian inspired hysteria that's survived in an aethistic society. Think you own your body? Nope, god does, and cops will point a gun at you to enforce the Almighty's laws - as interpreted these days by the USA, that is.
  44. happy facer from Toronto, Canada writes: Uh...I am here because this is a public forum discussing Marc Emery's self admitted guilt, his plea bargain deal with various Levels of governments

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