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BRODIE FENLON

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Latest comment posted at 11:43 AM EDT 18/03/08

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  1. Ed Long from white Rock, Canada writes: et tu, Bob?
  2. Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Harper cornered himself with the fixed election decision. He should have called a general election before Dion's team was in place.
  3. Shawn Bull from Canada writes: As a Conservative I can say I am very pleased that the Liberals are happy with yesterday's results. Losing a seat and barely hanging on to another probably is reason for Liberals to celebrate these days given the horrible year they have had.

    Now Liberals go forth an call an election so the Conservatives can get their majority (although they have a majority now with the Abstainng Liberal Party of Canada) and will allow the Liberals to repair the mistake of selecting Dion as your leader.
  4. Bill Wright from Canada writes: All reports of the Liberal Party of Canada's death is an exageration. You can call it Conservative wishful thinking. More likely Conservative desperation.
  5. Bill R. from Canada writes: I would like to see a smart election campaign from the Liberals. No-nonsense approach, no fear-mongering, just the facts. Just the facts will suffice. The Liberals' campaign in 2005-06 was utterly pathetic.
  6. D Le5 from Canada writes: Finally someone said it! If the Libs ever want to, at least appear to be in the game they do need to address some of the major publicity issues they are facing.
    This is basically what Harper has done in the CPC party by not allowing the MPs to say too much outside the house (or within) as anything they say (wacky or not) will be twisted by the other parties and the public (just look at these boards for the yahoo factor whenever a politician not in their party speaks - or even doesn't).
    Sadly politics are about image more than substance.
  7. jack Bauer from Canada writes: Wow I never thought that Bob Rae would be elected again in Ontario......goes to show you the utter stupidity of voters in this province.
  8. Ed Long from white Rock, Canada writes: The social democratic alliance of tax and spenders like Monty Python's knight, limbs being chopped, demanding the fight continue while wallowing around the ground.
  9. R. Antifimay from barrie, Canada writes: I hope this by-election is a shot in the arm that will cure what another post called; 'The CONSERVATIVE LIBERAL ALLIANCE PARTY' (C.L.A.P).
  10. Expert Eel from Give Steve the Heave, Canada writes: Sorry, but if the C.R.A.P. can't defeat Bob Rae in Ontario, then it is a disaster.
  11. albert camus from France writes: if liberals had a strong leader they could easily beat 'mr. personality' and his little bunch of dummies. mr. dion shows no sign of being a leader; he lacks personality, humour, presence - i still can't figure why liberals would choose this guy to 'lead' them. if they don't get rid of him we're going to be in a dark place for a long time.
  12. Kevin Desmoulin from Toronto, Canada writes: I think the speculation will only stop when Dion is elected as prime minster of a majority government, So LPC please get it on now.
  13. p lailey from vancouver, Canada writes: In public they rally around Dion but in private we have all of these leaks that hurt Dion's image. No leadership candidate wants to be seen as putting the knife in Dion as that would be fatal to his leadership ambitions. However, behind the scenes I believe that the main candidates are already trying to position themselves for Dion's inevitable downfall.
  14. god bless canada from Canada writes: yes the liberals what a great team they have they can even do there abc
    a is for adscam,abstain,and a--
    b is for bribe,brown bags stuffed with cash,backing down
    c is for coruption,cowerdnes,chretian,and maby a little creepy
    d is well you get the point

    now im not saying any of the other partys are much better but right now we have to pick a goverment that will help canada and so far its the pc look at our economy we are still in pretty good shape if you look at the usa its crashing and burning .i think the pm did the right thing at the right time with the early buget it fixed the problem before it started that is why we are still going strong. the liberals want to tax us more raise the gst to 10% if they could and carbon traders will make a megaton of cash who are those traders well yes mr gore is a big one and i sure there are still a lot of liberans who want a piece of the free cash
  15. Mike Z from Saskatoon, Canada writes: I am quite content with the results of this by-election. As a Conservative, I would support anything short of winning a general election that keeps Dion in charge of the Liberals. Dion is Harper's best friend -- who else could let Harper do anything he wants and not manage to gather any support during the process?
  16. J L from Canada writes: Oh Bob! You've got to be kidding.Liberal Party behind Mr Dion.Well maybe WITH KNIVES. By the way Bob there's a good Knife sharpening shop on Bloor. Mr Ignatieff is a regular customer and recommends it highly.
  17. mike sty - from Canada writes:

    Prime Minister Bob?

    Nice

    Nice Team

    It demonstrates the heft and quality of the Liberal team, compared with the robots on the other side with the gaffer tape on their mouths and the wind-up (keys) at the back

    Yes Stevie, be afraid....Be Very Afraid
  18. Sue City from Canada writes: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....

    Dion must go!
  19. john chuckman from Canada writes: I know Dion is in a tight place, but it does seem there are times one must be guided by principle and not political tactics.

    The Liberal 'compromise' on Afghanistan means my support goes elsewhere when the election comes.
  20. Larfing Outloud from Virgin Islands (British) writes: It will remain a conservative government till Dion is pushed off his perch.

    Then we'll have Canada's Natural party back in power.
  21. BiB AmomA from Canada writes: ...// they have to do something...
    none of the other propaganda has worked...

    ...
  22. Popeye Dillon from North Vancouver, Canada writes: Mike Sty: Harpo just has another clown to slap around now. If this is the best the LPC can field it'll be a long time in opposition.
  23. Bart Farquart from Land of Vanilla, Canada writes:
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    'Three of four federal by-election wins appear to have given Stéphane Dion a shot in the arm as the victors rallied around the Liberal Leader on Tuesday, with one demanding an end to questions about his leadership.'
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    Not a bad attempt to gussy a up a somewhat poor result for the Libs who, after all, had all four seats BEFORE the byelections.

    But let's put the hypothetical shoe on the other foot: If the Cons had retained two seats in Calgary, retained a third in Quebec with a greatly reduced margin, and had their backsides handed to them in a fourth in Ontario (where Harper's hand-picked candidate had run) such an outcome would hardly have been described as a 'shot in the arm' for Harper.

    I also find Rae's remarks faintly passive agressive.
  24. Peter Parker from Toronto, writes: Oh I'm sure they are rallying..... rallying Dion to take a plunge off that cliff so they can make a run for the leadership. Why else did Rae want his non-refundable deposit back from the last Leadership Convention? He's going to need it again in a while to make another run when Dion implodes in the next election.
  25. jack Bauer from Canada writes: Mike the only thing hefty about the liberals is the bags of cash they stole from us!
  26. David Jenkins from Kelowna, Canada writes: I'm sorry folks, but trying to differentiate between the leadership abilities of Harper or Dion is like arguing about which pygmy to pick for a basketball team.
  27. Toast And coffee from Somewhere, Canada writes: Liberals and some media outlets can call this good news for the LPC but it just isn't so. They were favored to win all four with three of them traditional strongholds. They lost one seat and were uncomfortably close in a second one.

    This is definitely not the shot in the arm that some are suggesting.
  28. Ian Gunn from Minneapolis, United States writes: LPC will now be known as the LPT (Liberal Party of Toronto).. Please make all appropriate changes....
  29. Erik D. from Ottawa, Canada writes: 'Its the media fault', all this talk of a liberal dissention is a conservative pro media biased diatribe .... Is that close enough to the usual equally invalid comments by conservative supporters about a biased media?
  30. looking on from Canada writes: The Libs are so proud of themselves--why---they only held on to 3 out of their 4 foot holds. So sad,they just don't get it.
  31. Shawn Bull from Canada writes: Honesty is the best Policy from Canada writes: The Cons came 4th in Toronto. So I guess their support is still with the hicks and easily fooled.
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    So if you don't live in Toronto you are an easily fooled Hick? Coming from the city that supports Miller and McGuinty and then says, 'Hey why are all our costs going up yet our services diminish'.

    Toronto was great once. Now it is a shadow of what it once was.
  32. Ed Long from white Rock, Canada writes: I can hear the CPC welcome to Rae now:

    'Bob, 2008, House of Commons ... are you with us, Bob?'

    'Iggy, wipe the drool off Bob's lip.'

    'No Bob, no new tax bills to pass today ... have your nap.'
  33. Derek Holtom from Swan River, Canada writes: Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Harper cornered himself with the fixed election decision. He should have called a general election before Dion's team was in place.

    you mean like Chretien did? maybe that's why Harper brought in fixed election dates. to take the politics out of the decision.

    As for the results, the BC result and the one in Saskatchewan should worry the Liberals.
  34. John Connor from Canada writes: Bill R. from Canada writes: I would like to see a smart election campaign from the Liberals. No-nonsense approach, no fear-mongering, just the facts. Just the facts will suffice. The Liberals' campaign in 2005-06 was utterly pathetic.

    That would be a refreshing change for the Liberals. Impossible, but refreshing, and would ensure a majority for Harper. Bring it, if that's the case.
  35. Juan Valasquez from Scarborough, Canada writes: Hilarious. Do naive Ontario voters really have such a short memory?
    Bob Rae?
    RAE DAYS??

    The Liberals have added another quality addition to their all-star roster of buffoons.
  36. Mike B from Canada writes: The Libs are more NDP than the NDP is these days. It's the party where all good socialists go to die. How many former NDP premiers and MP's can they keep taking on? What happened to the Liberal brand? Good Lord they had to parachute Rae into the safest seat in the country where they'd elect a rock if it were nominated a Liberal candidate. I don't see how this can be a victory for the Liberals at all. Where's Manley, McKenna, Tobin ? That'd be a victory.
  37. Ian Gunn from Minneapolis, United States writes: Ok back to a more serious tone...

    Even if the LPT (Liberal Party of Toronto) gain some momentum, the interesting part is the NDP have lost momentum. Last night's results cannot be inspiring to Mr Layton.

    Maybe the NDP won't be so gung-ho in wanting an election now. Could it be they are the new party of 'hand-sitting' or do you think Mr Layton has connected his party's fate to defacing the LPT too tightly?
  38. John Connor from Canada writes: Kevin Desmoulin from Toronto, Canada writes: I think the speculation will only stop when Dion is elected as prime minster of a majority government, So LPC please get it on now.

    It's been a cold winter Kevin, as far as I know though, hel* is still boiling.
    Your scenario might occur the year the Leafs bring home the Cup.
  39. Craig Scott from Republic of Newfoundland, Canada writes: Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Harper cornered himself with the fixed election decision. He should have called a general election before Dion's team was in place.

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    Catherine what is your fixation with the fixed election date? I think it is a good thing and I am glad it is like that. I was so sick of Cretien calling elections before his mandate was up just so he could get another majority win and swindle us for another mystery period of time.

    I don't thnik Harper is worried about the Liberal Dream Team.....They will eat each other alive once they lose the next election under Dion.

    Why do you think Rae wants it clear that Dion is the uncontested leader...so that he can place the blame completly on him when they lose the next one. Rae will be first in line to devour the remnants of Dion's leadership.

    Make no mistake the Liberal leadership hopefulls are circling the wagons and making sure they have a scape goat in place.
  40. Randal Oulton from Canada writes: >> boz dobbs from toronto, Canada writes: Renounce your French citizenship Mr.Dion.

    Why? Has Canada become that petty? I don't think there's any need for him at all to do that.
  41. Scary Fundamentalist from Vancouver, Canada writes: Honesty is the best Policy from Canada writes: The Cons came 4th in Toronto. So I guess their support is still with the hicks and easily fooled.

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    My guess is that you're a Conservative troll. No other reason for such an ridiculous comment.
  42. A B from Saskatoon, Canada writes: In twelve years of living in Sask - I have never seen 'Stronghold' seat for LPC. It is a great success that became liberal seat last elections. Saskatchewan is turning aggressively to conservatives and we will see more of that.

    On the other hand, I think we see a liberals working together in democratic way, even disagreeing. While on the other side, media control, ministerial control, almost control over public - by budgeting for provinces where vote is needed. I really hope the next PM of Canada has more reconciliatory tone including the other side that has not voted for him. It is PM of Canada, not PM of this or that party or politics.
  43. Scary Fundamentalist from Vancouver, Canada writes: Shot in the arm? More like a shot in the kisser for the Liberal party. They lost support bigtime here in Quadra.
  44. Stan L from Canada writes: Juan Valasquez from Scarborough, Canada writes: Hilarious. Do naive Ontario voters really have such a short memory?
    Bob Rae?
    RAE DAYS??

    The Liberals have added another quality addition to their all-star roster of buffoons.

    WHY do people keep saying this? Did you ever stop to consider that by voting for the Liberals perhaps Ontarians are simply remembering Mike Haris....and by extension Flaherty and Baird and Clement?
  45. Mr. Sarcasm from Canada writes: .
    Honesty is the best Policy writes: 'The Cons came 4th in Toronto. So I guess their support is still with the hicks and easily fooled. '

    Yea, those Toronto folks (you know, the town that elected David Miller - twice) must be much smarter than those hicks in the sticks...
  46. Ed Long from white Rock, Canada writes: I believe the ugly reality will set in today.

    NDP is the party of sociology students and former Toronto city councillors.

    Liberals have become the social democratic alliance of old tax and spenders.

    CPC will have a tough time keeping a straight face when the Commons resumes.

    Cadman, NAFTA ... those puff balls were so light weight they didn't even smudge the wall.
  47. John Connor from Canada writes: Mr. Sarcasm from Canada writes: .
    Honesty is the best Policy writes: 'The Cons came 4th in Toronto. So I guess their support is still with the hicks and easily fooled. '

    Yea, those Toronto folks (you know, the town that elected David Miller - twice) must be much smarter than those hicks in the sticks...

    And McGuinty. arrgh..
  48. Erik D. from Ottawa, Canada writes: To Shawn Bull & Honesty is the best Policy: That we continue to elect the same type of politicians that provide us with many, many scandals (after promising to clean up the government, improve the health system, not touch income trusts, clean up the environment, eliminate the GST, ...) to keep our media in business, regardless of who's in power, is an indicator that most, if not all, of us are easily fooled hicks, whther we live in Toronto, Calgary, or out on the homestead ...
  49. looking on from Canada writes: No reason to think the 'brown envelope party' will go any where. There will be so much fighting between the guys on the Libs front bench they will forget what they are there for (what are they there for?)
  50. Michael Crowell from Halifax, Canada writes: Note to Bob Rae and Martha HF: Where is the $50 million dollars that is still unaccounted for from the last Liberal Government’s time in office. Hope in the next few months the RCMP start laying charges. Makes PM Mulroney's 225K earned as a private citizen look a little pale.
  51. Rob Scott from Toronto, Canada writes: Mr. Dion attributed the loss to a surge in Green Party support by voters who wanted to express their disapproval of the Conservatives' handling of the environment.

    Huh?

    Much more likely is that the voters are pissed off with the Liberal Party for forming a defacto coalition government with The Reform Party. Propping up the nazis over and over again makes it very clear that the Liberals care more about what is good for the Liberal Party then what is good for Canada.

    If Dion wants a majority government and nice big win margins back again then it is time to trigger an election. Nothing would please me better than to see the Liberals back in power - if and when they show some backbone and demonstrate that they deserve to be the government again.

    Actually, something would please me better than the Liberal return and that would be a Reform Party defeat similar to the 1993 wipe out - followed by another decade of right wing banishment.

    So get busy...
  52. A B from Saskatoon, Canada writes: Sean L. from Toronto Center, Canada writes: Catherine Wilkie so you smoke crack or are you just an idiot?
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    To moderator: How is this relevant posting to this group? Nothing democratic about this. I am really fed up of posts like this one, or the other day a post - something like 'Go back to your country' ... If this is moderated, please remove inflamatory posts, personal offense etc.

    Thank you.
  53. garlick toast from Canada writes: next month we might get a peek at the financial costs-to-date for afganistan.
  54. Ed Long from white Rock, Canada writes: Rob Scott .... Trigger the election.
  55. Guillaume Affleck from Canada writes: Sean L, we know the answer to that 'burning' question. Wilkie is a Libtard.

    The addition of a Far-Left silver-spoon Marxist class warrior and disasterous former Ontario Premier seals the fate of this edition of the criminal lying liberal party. No one, not even Union activists will vote for them now.

    Priceless!

    Eric Deluded - As a nation, we have finally elected someone as PM other than a Lying Lawyer or Loser Lifer (Mr. Clark) for the first time in decades. So far, so good, millions and millions of us say! Well, the Adults anyway!
  56. Paul Meyer from Trail BC, Canada writes: Interesting comment from one of the Libs' spinmeisters to the effect that winning at all in Vancouver was good becasue it showed the Liberals still had strength in 'the West.'

    When the Liberals start lumping in Quadra with Kelowna, Cranbrook, Red Deer and Calgary, you know they're grasping at straws.

    Hopefully the LPC's new leader will have the guts to trigger an election shortly after he or she is chosen later this year. It would be nice to have a CPC majority government in place prior to the Olympics.
  57. Ralph green from nb from Canada writes: Lol you torontonians must be brainwashed fresh of the boat to put boob rae anywhere near canadian taxpayers money again, let alone the liebrieil party of toronto.
  58. Rain Couver from Canada writes: The comments were promising, but were reduced to the standard partisan rhetoric. Lets face it, there are no promising leaders in any of the parties. Harper has shown to be a complete incompetent who embarrasses Canada at every turn. Dion is a whining little boy. Layton is, by far, the most dangerous as he stands in front of the Palestinian protesters proving he would rather pander to the Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Quaeda, Taliban apologists than represent all Canadians.

    We need a great leader. It doesn't matter which party. We just need someone that has a vision for Canada that everyone can get behind. Not a retarded fascist, a little man with a Napoleonic complex and a huge-headed terrorist admirer.
  59. mike sty - from Canada writes: Craig Scott from Republic of Newfoundland, Canada writes:

    I don't thnik Harper is worried about the Liberal Dream Team.....They will eat each other alive once they lose the next election under Dion.
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    That's the beauty of this, a win/ win for the Liberals.

    Harper minority means Harper turns into Mr. Pi$$y pants and Dion is replaced by Rae or Iggy leading to Liberal majority.

    Liberal minority means Dion lives a little longer, Harper quits and replaced by ?????(shallow talent pool)
  60. G len from Halifax, Canada writes: I don't know why people respond to Catherine's comments. Every day she pops her head in the door, make some comment about harper regretting fixed election dates and then runs away. She has a fixation with manipulating election dates by the government so the sitting government can enhance their standings. Harper and the Cons were sick of that kind of treatment of the voters and put a stop to it.
  61. Erik D. from Ottawa, Canada writes: To Guillaume Affleck : Your need to restort to derogatory remarks sums up the quality (severly lacking thereof) and lack of relevance of your comments. Harper has had his share of scandals so far even though he's only been in power for two years (in fact his major scandal now is from when he was still in the opposition, I guess he was anxious to get at it... ) He's no different, even though he's not a lawyer, than all the rest, perhaps in part from having Mulroney lawyer type as a mentor and advisor to teach him the ways of being a PM ...
  62. MIKE MAHER from Canada writes: Liberanos are the funniest!! So, losing a seat they held previously (Sask), and losing serious ground in another (Vancouver Quadra) while maintaining the safest seats in Liberalville Toronto (Liberano sheeple just voted in a former NDP'er who was the worst premier Ontario has ever seen. A stair rail could win in T.O. for the liberanos) constitutes a shot in the arm. How funny is that. Always good for a daily laugh.
  63. David Griffith from Canada writes: Attention Wilkie, Sty and other Liberal relics: Last night demonstrated something that should make you want to wipe from drool from your chin immediately. The only safe haven now left for the Liberals are the slow learners of Toronto. Sask trounced your star appointed candidate. You were within a recount of losing Quadra, a traditional Liberal bastion. You want an election? Please! We do too, lol.
  64. Gail Thomas from Canada writes: Watch out Layton the Liberals are trying to replace your socialist team that's why they love the Dems in the US. Anyone who votes for socialism is destroying the middle class.
  65. Derek Holtom from Swan River, Canada writes: A B from Saskatoon, Canada writes: Sean L. from Toronto Center, Canada writes: Catherine Wilkie so you smoke crack or are you just an idiot?
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    To moderator: How is this relevant posting to this group? Nothing democratic about this. I am really fed up of posts like this one, or the other day a post - something like 'Go back to your country' ... If this is moderated, please remove inflamatory posts, personal offense etc.

    Thank you.

    Good luck. The moderators on this site are non-exsistent. You can call people names, say slanderous things about politicians, it's all good to the Globe. Except about stories they're worried about getting into trouble., On those they close comments.
  66. Scare Crow from Canada writes: so now we have 3 more MPs to abstain in the HOC.
  67. Ralph green from nb from Canada writes: hey mikey we got better ppl in waiting than you leftys for example, bernard lord,ex preimer of nb which won the popular vote but lost the electoral vote because of some boundry changes.
  68. John Hinkley from Thornhill, ON, Canada writes: Jack Bauer from Canada writes: Wow I never thought that Bob Rae would be elected again in Ontario......goes to show you the utter stupidity of voters in this province.

    Hey Jack - Please note where Bob Rae was elected - deep in the city of Toronto - within the heartland of the NDP social misfits that elect the like of David Miller and Kyle Rae.

    These are the folks who will bankrupt Toronto before their excessive 4-year term (courtesy of Dalton McGuinty - a Lieberal) is up.

    I doubt that Bob would have done as well elsewhere in the province - folks would have held their nose and voted Conservative or Green.

    Bob Rae will be a divisive force within the LPC. Stephane had better keep his back to the wall when both Iggy and Bob are in the same room with him.

    Martha Ray Finlay on the other hand will surprise most people with her very considerable talent.
  69. Craig Scott from Republic of Newfoundland, Canada writes: mike sty - from Canada.......................

    You actually think the Liberals are going to form the next government? There is nothing to indicate that. If the Liberals were so confident they could do it they would have toppled the government by now.

    The problem the Liberals have is they don't have any money and are not able to raise any. By the time the election rolls around the Conservatives will have 10 times more money than the Liberals and NDP and it will definatly influence the election results.

    It takes a lot of money to fight an election, between adds and organizing people on the ground the Conservatives and even the NDP are way ahead of the Liberals.

    The problem is that the Liberals were so dependent on large corporate donations in the past to fuel their camapigns that they are at a disadvantage.

    Until the Liberals become the Liberal party of the common man then they will be hard pressed to raise money and consequently as hard pressed to win elections.
  70. Four separate counties within Canada *******Dare to Dream from Regina, Canada writes: LARFING

    ''Then we'll have Canada's Natural party back in power.''

    LOL, give us a break, you mean Ontario's natural governing party the Liberals speak naturally for no one else now!!!
  71. D G from Canada writes: Scare Crow - and one more completely muzzled one with no allowable opinion. If you are gonna bash - bash honestly.
  72. EJ Ravensbud from Canada writes: Rain, I think you may be the guy/gal. Go for it! It sure looks easy from the cheap seats.
  73. rick from river city from Canada writes: The picture with the article tells it all... Rae moving to the front and Dion fading into the background. To the left the Liberals go.
  74. Blue Magic ...... from mississauga, Canada writes: Bad night for the liberals no matter how they spin it. The Government increased the percentage of vote in 3 out of riddings.

    Dion's hand pick candidate in sask. Got a smack down. But quadra is the real story. The conservatives where neck and neck in that race that is just insane.

    But it is funny watching the spin from the libtards. I can't wait to see Harper smack down bob Rae in the house.

    And lets be real Power corp Bob is not what the liberals want to pin there hopes on.

    What a sa state the LPC has turned into. It is a good night when you lose a ridding you held and Bob Rae is a star candidate. Ha,ha,ha,ha
  75. Winter of Discontent from Ottawa, Canada writes: So, they're all rallying around Dion, eh?

    I suppose Dion told the LPC to rally the wagons round because Dion has led the LPC into a 'Custer's last stand' on the political front. After seeing Dion's hand-chosen pick in Man. lose handily it shouldn't give much confidence to any other potential candidate.

    Bob ran in a 'safe' seat which Bill Graham occupied for 12 yrs. He didn't have to do anything but wear his red tie and smile, they're that robotic in his riding. I guess anyone who can run the Ont. economy into deficit by 9bn is OK with the GTA.

    Martha will shout loud in the HoC, kind of reminds me of Sheila Copps only with a better haircut.

    Dion is being back slapped now but he should beware because the reality is Bob and Iggy have been measuring him for his own political casket for the last number of months and their sharpening the knives. Dion, unfortunately, has got his friends close and his enemies even closer now.

    Bottomline: Dion is going down in 12-18 mths.
  76. Ralph green from nb from Canada writes: Lol wasabi you forgot mr goodale and the income trust scandal that mysteriouly was put to a stop.
  77. mike sty - from Canada writes: David Griffith from Canada writes: Sask trounced your star appointed candidate.
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    Attention kindergarten dropout, Sask. was Lib., NDP and Con last 3 elections indicating indicating voters not blind sheep slow learners as in Alberta.
    Alberta 37 years con = baaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa
  78. jack Bauer from Canada writes: Winter are you saying Copps 3 stooges haircut did not suit her?
  79. Ralph green from nb from Canada writes: Mike are you just stupid or do you believe all that shyit you type
  80. Go Oilers Go! from Canada writes: mike sty - from Canada writes: 'Harper minority means Harper turns into Mr. Pi$$y pants and Dion is replaced by Rae or Iggy leading to Liberal majority.' I think this is the funniest notion that Liberals have. Your leader is terrible no doubt about that. However to think plugging in Rae or Ignatieff will magically turn the party around is really quite funny. The LPC is dead west of Ontario...dead...and it isn't the leader. The LPC is dead in Quebec...and it isn't just the leader. Rae or Ignatieff would be leading a GTA regional party just like Dion because that is all the LPC is...a regional GTA party. The rest of Canada thinks their terrible.
  81. The Conservative Centrist from Canada writes: Winter, I agree Dion is going down, just not necessarily with your timeline. Dion will be gone after the next election, and that COULD come within the next 3-4 months. What will be interesting to watch is who takes over. If Rae does, due to his backing by Power Corp etc. look for the Party to move even further left. This may allow them to pick up Dipper votes, but would cost them centrist votes.

    If Iggy takes over, look for lots of party infighting as he tries to clean house of the Power gang, and move the party back towards the centre.

    Of course, with Rae and Iggy whacking at each other, look for the possibility of Martha coming up the middle between them.

    Whatever happens is going to be interesting viewing for political junkies :-)
  82. Winter of Discontent from Ottawa, Canada writes: AB of Saskatoon wrote:
    It is PM of Canada, not PM of this or that party or politics.
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    I haven't heard Chretien, Martin ever say they were PM of Canada but rather referred to as 'dear leader' or 'our leader' of the LPC party. Dion is attempting the same mantel with his new razz-ma-tazz line up of Chretien/Trudeau wanna-be's.

    If you recall PM Harper started his last campaign with a 'Canada First' slogan, not say & spend whatever I need to do to get elected as Martin did. Canada's international reputation has only grown since PM Harper was elected after suffering for 13 yrs. (The only exception was Lloyd Axworthy and the landmine ban - he was an actual decent LPC MP)
  83. Paul Meyer from Trail BC, Canada writes: Rob Scott: While some of us (I suspect) appreciate you capitalizing 'The Reform Party' I think your equating the current CPC or the former Reform party with nazis is a bit over the top.

    Not to put too fine a point on it, but when there were Real nazis around, which National party of Canada decided to send the Jews back to Germany saying 'one is too many?'

    How about we focus on what the various parties stand for this millennium?
  84. Rob R from Canada writes: Bob Rae says party must put 'absolute stop' to speculation over Liberal Leader's future.

    That's true - with the endorsement of Bob and Buzz Hargrove the Liberal party will soon merge with Taliban Jack and the NDP!
  85. Go Oilers Go! from Canada writes: mike sty - from Canada writes: 'Attention kindergarten dropout, Sask. was Lib., NDP and Con last 3 elections indicating indicating voters not blind sheep slow learners as in Alberta. Alberta 37 years con = baaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa' First off if there was a viable alternative in Alberta the PCs would not have won. Of course you wouldn't know that because when it comes to west of Ontario you don't know what you are talking about. Second Alberta's string of PC gov'ts does not match Ontario's history where they voted Conservative for 42 years in a row... ...which of course includes the GTA who voted Liberal after finding out they were ripping Canadians off. You sure hit the nail with baa baa baa...nothing but mindless sheep in Ontario.
  86. The Conservative Centrist from Canada writes: No matter what happens in the Liberal party in the near future, we can count on a Cons gov't, albeit possibly minority, for the next 5-6 years at least. Good for Canada, bad for Liberal brown baggers :-)
  87. Dan Radu from Calgary, Canada writes: Yeah, keep Dion around as long as possible. That can only help party fortunes....until Bob puts the knife in at the next leadship convention.

    God help Ontario if they vote for Bob.....again.
  88. mike sty - from Canada writes: Go Oilers Go! from Canada writes: that is all the LPC is...a regional GTA
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    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Kinda like the CRAPer party is regional, all the blind sheep in Alberta.
    Alberta 37 years con = baaaa, baaaaa, baaaaa
  89. Winter of Discontent from Ottawa, Canada writes: jack bauer - well the haircut did fit, but you just couldn't help but laugh when she was Deputy PM :)

    The Conservative Centrist - I may be overly optimistic on the timeline, but I only quote 'Canadians do not want an election now...it cost $350 million to do so' by Stephane Dion! The next few months will be fun and surely entertaining.

    I'm personally waiting for Dion to launch his campaign waving a Red Book and saying 'We're gonna party like it's 1993'! rofl
  90. Guillaume Affleck from Canada writes: Erik Deluded ...' in fact [ PM Harper's] major scandal'

    There isn't even a single one you little liar.

    I, like the RCMP, am still waiting for the remaining $70 million stolen by the LPC and their pals to be returned to the taxpayers. And that really was just one of their many, many genuine criminal scandals. A truly disgusting gang they are.

    Marxist Millionaire Bob and Flaky French Sociologist Dion are a perfect couple.
  91. mike sty - from Canada writes: Go Oilers Go! from Canada writes: you wouldn't know that because when it comes to west of Ontario you don't know what you are talking about.
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    Conservative's guide to defending the undefendable, rule number...

    13) I'm the only one here that knows anything.(the rest of the public are too stupid, and believe anything, defense.)
  92. B R from GTA, Canada writes: Bill R. from Canada writes: I would like to see a smart election campaign from the Liberals. No-nonsense approach, no fear-mongering, just the facts. Just the facts will suffice. The Liberals' campaign in 2005-06 was utterly pathetic
    =======================================================And with Gomery and the RCMPs happy investigation of Goodale into the Income Trust affair right in the middle it was virtually impossible to win anything. That the Liberals still ended up with 100 seats tells me a lot about their Cross Country support.-------------------------------------------------------------------
    With the above two handicaps removed and replaced by Harper's own problems the Liberals should easily win the next election.
  93. because of Dion they didn't win 5 seats gotta love Kady O'Malley from Canada writes: D Le5 from Canada writes: Finally someone said it! If the Libs ever want to, at least appear to be in the game they do need to address some of the major publicity issues they are facing.

    How do you counter Harper's $ 18 million attack ad machine ?

    If I was opening a popsicle stand in the desert would I pay Stockwell , Lunn , Toni , Baird , Flaherty etc more than 1/4 of a million dollars wages , benifits , expenses and guilded pension to run it ?
  94. G. Veneta from Calgary, Canada writes: Good to see the sorry cons out in full force today no doubt being paid. You know your boy's days are numbered but keep up the rabid foaming. It's what you con types do so well as you sure don't do anything else well. Cheers and good day.
  95. Rob R from Canada writes: It shows how desperate the Liberals are when they have taken on the worst Premier in Ontario history as an MP now; an NDP fool who almost bankrupted the Province of Ontario and whose most recent achievement was to skinnydip with Rick Mercer, hence my moniker for him of 'Bear-Butt' Bob! Pathetic! Add to that another failure of a leadership candidate Martha 'Not sure what my surname is!' and things just get worse and worse for StePHONEY. Rally round him -sure - they are just looking for a place to stick in the knives! However, I do believe that the Liberals are so desperate to get rid of StePHONEY that Iggy has suggested that they kidnap him and replace him with Alan Park of the Royal Canadian Air Farce as you can at least understand his broken English and he is funnier than StePHONEY! The upside is also that when his RCAF contract is up Iggy will simply dump him and take over the party. Is IGGY pure genius or what?
  96. T. Scott from Canada writes: Affleck is calling others liars and thiefs. How much money have you stole from us today Flecker? Whose dime are you on?
  97. Greg Van Zandt from Canada writes: Speaking of scandals...looks like Bob Rays campaign staff is made up of old friends linked to the Sponsership Scandal...

    http://www.stephentaylor.ca/archives/000970.html

    What does this say about Ray's judgement? Message to the Liberal party - Canadians don't want crooks running this country again.
  98. boz dobbs from toronto, Canada writes: Mr.Dion,when you go back to the House of Commons get a swivel chair.Turning your back on Bob and Iggy is not a wish choice.
  99. T. Scott from Canada writes: Rob R from Canada writes: It shows how desperate the Liberals are when they have taken on the worst Premier in Ontario history as an MP //

    When was Harris elected? When did he join the Liberal party?
  100. Clark The Mighty from Canada writes: RAE THE ATTACKER THUG!

    ON THE FRONT BENCH!

    ...AT LEAST RAE CAN SPEAK ENGLISH.

    LIBERALS JUST GOT THEIR ENFORCER.
  101. mike sty - from Canada writes:

    After last evenings dismal showing by the Stephen Harper Conservatives finishing 4th well behind Liberal, NDP and Greens , The Stephen Harper Lastservative's send out a all troll attack on the one they fear most........Bob Rae.

    Yes Stevie, Be Afraid

    Be Very Afraid

    Prime Minister Rae

    A Real Leader

    For Real(All) Canadians
  102. Greg Van Zandt from Canada writes: T. Scott from Canada writes: Rob R from Canada writes: It shows how desperate the Liberals are when they have taken on the worst Premier in Ontario history as an MP //

    When was Harris elected? When did he join the Liberal party?

    Ray was the worst premier Canada has ever had, let alone Ontario. People either are too young or have very short memories.
  103. Rob R from Canada writes: T. Scott from Canada writes: Rob R from Canada writes: It shows how desperate the Liberals are when they have taken on the worst Premier in Ontario history as an MP //

    When was Harris elected? When did he join the Liberal party?

    Wow! such a comeback from a Liberal hack! yeh! Harris had his faults but he got the province out of the doldrums it was in under Rae! Of course, like all Liberal hacks you conveniently forget about Rae and his terrible record - in typical lIberal fashion - any warm body will do to win a secure seat in TO - ex-crook - no problem! Ex-NDP idiot premier - No p