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IOC wants Beijing to open Internet during Olympics

STEPHEN WADE

Associated Press

Latest comment posted at 9:12 PM EST 02/04/08

Restricting access during the games ‘would reflect very poorly' on China, says Kevan Gosper, vice chairman of the IOC co-ordinating commission ...Read the full article

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  1. Stude Ham from Outremont, Canada writes: The IOC's demands of internet access at this stage of the games are as futile as the Dalai Lama's demands for Tibetan independence. What greed and corruption hath wrought no man can undo.

    BOYCOTT BEIJING 2008!!
  2. D. Clearwater from Lethbridge, AB, Canada writes: What Stude Ham said:

    BOYCOTT BEIJING 2008!
  3. Liberal Elitist from Windsor, Canada writes: Good Luck with that!
  4. B Lam from Canada writes: People want to boycott the Games because they do not want to witness what a fine job China could do.
  5. Laurence L from Toronto, Canada writes: None of this would be happening if Mel Lastman wasn't mayor of Toronto....
  6. T E from Toronto, Canada writes: The IOC just wants full internet access so they can freely surf porn in Beijing :)
  7. Rangzen Bhu from Toronto, Canada writes: Stude Ham from Outremont, Canada writes

    Just read this interesting piece

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/tibet-isnt-a-buddhist-li_b_94541.html
  8. Ramesh Fernando from Canada writes: As usual the apologists for China turn out of the woodworks. B. Lam if you love the dictator thugs and the Great Firewall of China so much, why did you come to Canada. Seriously, why would anyone criticize the IOC for getting these dictator thugs to allow free access to the Internet. The IOC is doing a great service. While I don't agree totally with Stude Ham in boycotting the games, pressure on the Chinese communist government to improve human rights, allow more access to foreign press and give access to Internet.
  9. Rangzen Bhu from Toronto, Canada writes: B Lam from Canada

    See the spectacular conduct of Chinese Embassy Official in Swiss. So you can imagine their conduct behind the closed iron curtain.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-YsNR8gzlA
  10. min yan from Canada writes: Stude Ham: Where did you get the idea about Tiananmen SQ? Have you been there? Do you know anybody that you know been there? Yes, I was there, and I was one of the students participating the hunger strike. Your story of Tiananmen SQ was manufactured by your media and was discredited also by your media "Foreign Affairs" in 2002. In case that you don't know how your media manupulate you, look at the April 7, 2008 Macleans issue, with large bold letters of "Butchers and Monsters" acrossing a photo which was not even taken in China, then with the smallest letter at the bottom of the page saying a protest crushed in Napel. I quote Macleans editor's response to my inquire of why a photo has no connection to China or Tibet is associated with this title this way. Here is Maclean's answer: "The photo was clearly labelled as being from Nepal. Nepal, in an effort to stay onside with its more powerful neighbour, cracked down on protests in the same fashion China did. The picture was at a pro-Tibetan protest outside the Chinese embassy. Because China restricts foreign journalists from working in Tibet during times of strife, and controls what images flow out from there, pictures of the Chinese crackdown were not available. Many news outlets, including the New York Times, The Globe and Mail and Maclean’s, therefore, used images from Nepal as representative. " I don't think that anyone can agree that this is professional and good journalism. And you know why Chinese government does not allow these journalists or diplomats walking around? Because they don't trust them. Why, you should look at your own history to find the answer.
  11. min yan from Canada writes: Stude Ham: In case you don't remember how bloody your industrialization was, here is a reminder, and remember this was just what was done in China: From 1839-1842, and from 1950-1956, after the Bible fumbling Britishs' requests to China to open its ports for trading was declined, which was to exchange tea and silk for your opium, British's navy invaded China. After China lost the navy battle, not only China had to pay for 4 million Liang (about 50g) silver and gold to compensate British's Navy expenses for the war, but also had to open its ports and ultimately gave the solventy of these ports to Britain. After British got what they wanted, other nations, Portugal, Belgium, France, Russian, Japan, Spain, Netherland all came to demand the same rights including money and land. In 1904, upon receiving resistence of their occupation, they went into Beijing, burned and looted the Emperial Palace. Do you know that in the 1920s, British had the sign in their park on China's land saying "Chinese and Dogs are not allowed"? You might wonder why Chinese eventually stood behind communists and handed over the power to communists. This was exactly why. After communists took power, the western did nothing but to trash China, many even do so today just because it is a different ideology. You can call this "angry nationalism". We are not angry because of the past, we are angry because of the ignorance and hypocricy in some people. Chinese are kind and forgiving, and we have plenty history and culture, past and future to be proud of. We don't care how you call this and all we care is how to bring every chinese to peace and prosperity that they deserve. Don't expect we accept your "high moral ground" preaching just because you are not there anymore. This is 21st century, century of knowledge and understanding. We can make this world better to learn from each other's past and try to help each other, not to preach.
  12. min yan from Canada writes: Correction:

    From 1839-1842, and from 1850-1856
  13. K Z from Canada writes: Stude Ham: "B Lam... it's not because of the blow job they could do... it's because of the repressively brutal and murderous (ie Tiananman Square June 1989) communist chinese tyranny in that country."

    Dude, look horny today, even hornier than a hamster!
  14. K Z from Canada writes: Is this section closed?
  15. K Z from Canada writes: Tis is reasonable request to Chinese government. If I were the government, I would feel comfortable on opening internet to the world now, the reasons: (1) most hardcore TIer's in Tibet have been jailed, online calling on riot from TGIE wouldn't be so dangerous. (2) The bias of western media have been exposed fully to Chinese netizens during the Tibet riot, they are becoming immunized to propaganda online. On the contrary, it is the western media such as CNN that should be more cautious dealing with Chinese-related news.
  16. min yan from Canada writes: "K Z from Canada : On the contrary, it is the western media such as CNN that should be more cautious dealing with Chinese-related news. "

    The public should ask why every piece of news about China in North America is negative (except for G&M's one series in 2005), while in fact, there are many more things positive happending there.
  17. K Z from Canada writes: min yan, as I understand, the primarily reason for the bias and distortion is because China's rising to a superpower is a sure thing and a 1.3 billion population country with 5000 year civilzation will challenge western domination on value systems and natural sources. They are desperately fearful and in panic.
  18. just tom from toronto, Canada writes: min yan FYI
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2300254722104314948

    I agree with you that China has come a long way but still has a longwayto go.
    And yes I have been there many times in the last 4 years in fact my Fiance is Chinese.
    Every country has its' history of brutality but that does not mean it has to contine! regards
  19. min yan from Canada writes: Hi Guys, my apology... after 2 days on these boards about Tibet, and seeing the same people again and again repeating the same allegations without facts, and without meaningful knowledge about China, I am hitting the limit of these anti-chinese stuff. Good luck to all.
  20. K Z from Canada writes: min yan, actually I had fun looking at these mambo jumbos, like the video showes : Tibet is and will always a part of China as long as 1.3 billion people wish so. Some noise and desperate display have no implications for the firm fact. The era that bunch of foreign gunboats defeated China has long gone.
  21. min yan from Canada writes: KZ, thanks for your kind words. I am not upset. I just can't stand some people on this board (not Stude Ham though) creeping in and out this board, doing exactly the same thing like yesterday although his/her video was already discredited by another lady yesterday as a fake. After yesterday's all the facts checking, he/she brought the same video again onto this board.

    Stude Ham/Just Tom, I wish that you both were on yesterday's board so you know where I am coming.

    Take care,

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