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Oil at $200? No way


With oil at a record high and forecasts calling for spikes up to $200 (U.S.) a barrel within the next two years, it is no surprise some commentators are balking at the possibility that the world can continue to digest sharply higher energy costs without suffering.

Douglas McIntyre, who contributes to the 24/7 Wall St. blog, argued that oil prices are at a critical point for the global economy. A little higher, and problematic inflation will kick in, creating havoc. That's why he believes the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, or OPEC, can't allow prices to rise much further.

“The operating theory of most oil analysts and economists is that OPEC will let prices go up and up. Nothing could be further from the truth,” he said. “Goldman Sachs has said oil could spike to $200 a barrel sometime in the next two years, but that won't happen.”

He said that OPEC ministers are naturally profiting from the higher oil prices, to the tune of tens of billions of dollars a year. But they are well aware that there is a tipping point at which the higher prices take inflation from a concern to a “column of disaster” – potentially triggering a global recession that harms OPEC producers as much as anyone else. They learned this lesson in 1973.

“OPEC's machinery gets broken if oil demand takes a sharp plunge,” Mr. McIntyre said. “If oil prices move up another 10 per cent to 15 per cent, the odds of that happening go higher geometrically.”
Crude oil traded as high as $122.31 on Wednesday morning.

 

  1. scott pearson from Toronto, Canada writes: Oil at $200 is a problem for the North American economy not the world economy.

    Oil at US$200 might not be that high in real terms if the US$ continues to slide.

    A few years ago people would have said that $100 oil would throw the world into an immediate recession. It hasn't.

    This is the end of cheap energy.
  2. Ryan Morcom from Canada writes: $200 oil will be a problem for the whole globe, without a doubt, not just NA. Certianly some regions will not be impacted to the extent as our developed energy craved regions of the world, but the pain will be felt throughout.

    As Scott says, $200 oil may not be high should the US$ continue to slide, as it already has buffered our rise to $120. But a continued and significant slide in the US$ will create more havoc and economic turmoil, than rising oil proces will.

    Either way, there will be a pricing point well before $200 that will cause consumers to change their habits and to seek alternatives, efficiencies or true conservation of the resource.

    Other than that, cheap energy was gone years ago.
  3. Brad Bender from Calgary, Canada writes: Scott, I don't know how to tell you this, but if North America can't afford $200/brl, the rest of the world certainly can't.

    Although the US$ decline has played a role in the run-up of oil prices, I think investor speculation is primarily responsible. Global consumption didn't double this year, and production didn't drop in half, so why is Oil twice as expensive?

    Oil is a commodity like any other and subject to over-valuation. It's rise in price is entirely driven by investments changing hands. Everyone is flooding into Energy because it's the "can't loose" investment. This is no different than technology stocks' "everyone's going to the internet, buy now!" or the "houses never go down in price!" mentality.

    Pop (Did you hear something?).
  4. kothar rumbleg from Canada writes: The problem with this is assumed that OPEC somehow has control over the tap. Need more oil simply open the tap full throttle, lots of oil back on the market. While this was done in the 1970's and 80's especially with Saudi arabia being the swing producer, this can not happen anymore. The reason for this is a)Saudi arabia does not have the ability to do this anymore, their fields are old and mature and are overutilized , and b)the other OPEC countries at at capacity or falling. As a matter of fact it is natural gas which is now the swing adding for the shortfall in convential crude! PEAK HAS COME AND GONE!
  5. Bob Argue from Canada writes: Douglas McIntyre's argument assumes that OPEC has the capacity to increase production and therefore keep a cap on prices. For the last year they have suggested that they would increase production imminently to soften prices, but have not followed through, something they have done in the past.

    If some of the peak-oil advocates who think that peak oil has already happened are right, and OPEC can no longer control the situation, how much would you be willing to bid at the pump for a barrel of oil? (And what are the consequences for the losing bidder?)
  6. kent godder from Canada writes: Once conventional crude supply begins to decline rather than remain stagnant and the reality of peak oil sets in, the sky's the limit on oil price.
  7. Dan Bleichman from Ottawa, Canada writes: The relation between supply/demand and oil price isn't linear, if we will manage to cut demand by 10%, price will fall back to $40 - $50. Now cutting 10% of demand in NA should be easy just get people from 15Mile/gal SUV to similar size 28mile/gal station wagons. For the rest of the world it's a bit harder since all are already driving efficient cars. And in developing countries people are just getting their first car ever. Sure a serious global recesion will slow the economic growth in those countries but this wouldn't be much fun for us either.
  8. Michael Enright from Torotno, Canada writes: $200/barrel oil would bring the global economy to an absolute standstill (most likely causing a severe recession).
  9. Ryan Morcom from Canada writes: I don't think the sky is the limit on the price of oil Kent. Every asset has its pricing point.
  10. RJ Jennings from United States writes: I moved within the past two years from Alaska and a lot of the shortage they claim is because of the failure to drill ANWR which was a granted allowance given to Alaska when it became a state and now they backed out of this agreement with Alaska. Why do I suspect it is all tied to something I read in the early 1970s predicting this is what was going to happpen? I still believe it is a conspiracy of the oil producing nations causing this. I have traveled all over thisw country and I remember (during the first claimed shortage of oil) a friend that was with the oil industry for years told us ther was no shortage that they were told to cap the wells to produce the shortage. The book I read when I was a lot younger was titled None Dare Call It Treason published by a Press named Liberty Bell Press. This book predicted what is happening with oil today and other predictions. Has anyone else read this book? Has anyone else heard these predictions in the past? Having read it makes me doubt the claimed shortages being the real cause behind the outrageous prices that we are paying and that are predicted to go higher. Every time the News media says the price of gasoline is going up --SURE enough it goes up almost instantly and they all go up to the same price!!! Really!! NO PRICE FIXING GOING ON HERE!!? I don't know what the prices are for gasoline in Canada but it was at $5 plus a gallon two to two and a half years ago when We drove down the last time. Thats one of the reasons we moved back south and quit snow birding in a motor home. We will now only go that distance when an emergency arises with our family up there. It is not just oil that is gouging the people it is every big business in the world looking to control the people by having control over what it takes to live----even our food and shelter. God even warned us this would come about just as He warned the Israelites in Nehemiah and what He said would come about in the years after pentecost in Hebrews.
  11. Ron Pacific from Victoria, Canada writes: Hmmmm . . . . I think prices will go to $200 but probably not in the next year. It will take some time to adjust and adjust we will. As for peak oil, certain countries certainly have reached peak production. Mexico and Russia, for example are seeing production declines as their easy oil runs out. Other countries such as Venezuela that could increase production are not reinvesting in their industry and so production is stagnating. The big oil companies such as Exxon are not increasing production or increasing investments - they are instead buying back shares. Why should they when their investments could be expropriated at the snap of a finger by any government (as happened in Russia)? Thank the stars that you live in Canada which is one of the few places where oil production will increase - we are the most fortunate country in the Western World. The next frontier in Canada is not in Fort McMurray but will be the Bakken formation in Saskatchewan which is not tar sands but light oil.

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