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  1. Rob C from Canada writes: H might be a fit in Toronto - Who has the authority to hire him?
  2. Bobby S from Toronto, Canada writes: Great coach, any time in say Toronto, looking for a coach? anyone? anyone?
  3. Verona Raven from United States writes: He still lives in Avon, Connecticut...maybe one of the NY teams could use him.
  4. Richard Daystrom from Toronto, Canada writes: Of course MLSE will probably hire Quenneville first and then add a lameduck GM as an afterthought. Maybe Peddie is talking to Wince Carter's mummy for the job.
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    R. Carriere from Maritimes, Canada writes:

    He won't be long without a job! Maybe Ottawa?

    The intrigue may be in Colorado? Could Patrick Roy be the next coach?

    He is God there having won Stanley Cups and his number was raised to the rafters. With his problems in the "Q" Quebec Major junior hockey, along with his son, perhaps the city of Denver is looking good right now. He played there 8 years and knows the city. They'll always remember him for the Detroit brawl...

    Pierre Gauthier is the President-former GM and former agent for Patrick. He stacked the hockey department with Quebec guys like Francois Giguere and Michel Goulet....that would just complete the French Connection! Hmmm...
  6. foo bar from Canada writes: Not really surprised, but it's still disappointing. Quenneville did a great job with a team that was decimated with injuries and a horrible goalie in Theodore. And the only team that's going to beat Detroit this year in the playoffs is a team composed of Jesuses.
  7. Carl Baldin from Canada writes: From what I have heard in hockey circles, he is a great, well respected fellow. I'd like to see him land in Vancouver or Ottawa.....even Calgary. But if he was foolish enough to go to Toronto, it would be his downfall. Why go to such a poor organization when he can almost pick and choose his destination!?
  8. J.C. Petite from Toronto, Canada writes: Oh right Carl why go to such a poor organization like Toronto?.....rather lets see him go to Vancouver (uhhh....when was the last time they did...uhhhh...anything??) or better yet Ottawa (the team that has been bounced by the aforementioned Leafs, what, 4 times in the last 10 years in the playoffs?) or Calgary (has had some success in recent history but not much). Bottomline is that the Leafs need a coach and they will pay well. They are trying to turn a few bad seasons around. I say bad seasons because a bad season would be considered a 9th place finish. The Leafs have good fans and Toronto is a good city, they deserve a good coach just as much as any other team does.
  9. RUss Newton from Canada writes: Joel is a great person. He is however at his best as an assistant. When he was with Crawford he was the balance that Marc needed. Joel in touch with the guys and Marc the tough guy. Good cop bad cop if you wish. Joel is a great good cop. Understands the game very well. Just is not the demanding lean on em guy that a Crawford or a Keenan. Great guy to team up with Hartley as a tandem in Toronto.
  10. Dave The Rave from Ottawa, Canada writes: Like Mike Babcock said last night: 'Nobody really appreciates what it takes to get here." Quenneville is suffering the 'win now' fate that is becoming the norm for NHL coaches. The players can get you fired, management's incompetence can get you fired, the inability to play politics can get you fired. PS who in their right mind would want to work for Peddie-Tannenbaum?
  11. Verona Raven from United States writes: "J.C. Petite from Toronto, Canada writes: Oh right Carl why go to such a poor organization like Toronto?.....rather lets see him go to Vancouver (uhhh....when was the last time they did...uhhhh...anything??) or better yet Ottawa (the team that has been bounced by the aforementioned Leafs, what, 4 times in the last 10 years in the playoffs?)"

    Better hope with Ottawa than no hope at all with the other Ontario AH..I mean NHL team.
  12. Carl Baldin from Canada writes: Russ...a very good point, but I think Joel did ok in St. Louis!? Perhaps you are right though.

    J.C. Petite, I grew up in Toronto thus am familiar with the Leafs (and I respect your loyalty), but until that mess is cleaned up in Leaf Land, why would anybody want to go to that place?

    As per Ottawa and Calgary...correct me if I am wrong but did not these teams make it to the finals recently!? For the most part, Ottawa, Montreal, Edmonton (whom I hate more than the Leaf but respect), Calgary and Vancouver have faired much better in the regular season and the post season than the Leafs in the last 10 years. How can Edmonton win all these cups since the '80....yet the Leafs haven't since 1967!?

    Sorry, but Harold Ballard's ghost is living in the AC Centre and you fans better get an exorcist in there before anyone in their right mind would take a GM or coaching job in Toronto.
  13. Proud Canadian from Canada writes: J C Petite, if anyone has any sense (common sense) that is, Toronto is a no no on the list of destinations for anyone with any hockey knowledge. I would love to see Joel in Ottawa, would fit in great with that team. Yes JC, the Senators have been where in the playoffs the past 3 years, where may I ask? And for the World Championships where are any of the Laugh players. Even Sundin and Toskola arent there. Can not say much for your franchise, 41 years and counting, no cup, no finals to even get to sniff one. Get some glasses, even the ones at the dollar store will help you out.
  14. Gary Dare from Portland, Oregon, Canada, writes: Since Tony Granato accepted a demotion to assistant, because he was clearly not ready, maybe Quenneville's departure will see him repromoted to the top job?
  15. Dave The Rave from Ottawa, Canada writes: More empty chairs in the NHL coaching and GM ranks. Now Atlanta has asked Waddell to take the long walk. This means we have vacancies in Vancouver, Toronto (GM coach), Ottawa, Colorado, Florida and Atlanta (GM coach). That's a lot of teams (twenty per cent of all the franchises) needing help from the top down. Guess who's not going to the playoffs in '08-09?
  16. J.C. Petite from Toronto, Canada writes: Wow congrats Ottawa on your failed cup final, way to go....here is a ribbon for trying. Cmon, last time I checked 2nd place got you nothing.

    Why did Edmonton win all of those championships in the 80's......geee I wonder.

    The thing about the World Championship is totally irrelevant. Just because players like Sundin, Toskala, Kaberle, Kubina, and Steen are not there, does not mean that they are not good enough to be there. They have all been there before and one of them has won the Gold (while being the captain). They are not there because they decided not to go, but I guarantee you that they were asked or considered. As far as team Canada goes....well yes, it really bothers me that not one player from the Toronto Maple Leafs is there. I will talk to you in 41 years Proud, and we will see if the Sens players have a ring on their finger.
  17. wayne powers from saskatoon, writes: The fools at MLSE will sit on their hands until the last minute then Ottawa will hire Quenneville and they will say he was the first choice. They have been playing paddle ball since January and will probably continue doing nothing until well after the draft and then another season is blown.
    How did these bozos make their money?
  18. Proud Canadian from Canada writes: Petite, no playoffs for the past 3 yrs (and counting), no players at the worlds. Dont give me any excuses, if they were invited, im sure we would have known about it. Since there is silence, no invite. Dont plan on me being around in 41 yrs, Ill be dust long gone. I will appreciate you contributing to my retirement in 19 months, keep working, contribute, Ill be glad to spend your pittance you put in.
  19. James C from Shenzhen, China writes: " J.C. Petite from Toronto, Canada writes: Oh right Carl why go to such a poor organization like Toronto?.....rather lets see him go to Vancouver (uhhh....when was the last time they did... uhhhh ...anything??) or better yet Ottawa (the team that has been bounced by the aforementioned Leafs, what, 4 times in the last 10 years in the playoffs?) or Calgary (has had some success in recent history but not much). Bottomline is that the Leafs need a coach and they will pay well."
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    what a stunning defence of the leaf organization!!!

    lets see now... every canadian team (except the leafs) has at least been to the stanley cup final since 1967. calgary (1), edmonton (5) and montreal (8) have all won stanley cups since 1967, ottawa has been one of the top teams in the regular season recently and has a presidents trophy, they've been to the finals once and came within a goal of the finals in 2003, vancouver lost game 7 in the finals in '94 by a single goal.... and in the past 40 years what's the leafs top accomplishment? a conference final appearance in '93. wow.

    the leafs are a mess, and they need a lot more than a coach. no quality coach in his right mind would want to sign with them right now.
  20. Carl Baldin from Canada writes: JC, you are truly a die hard Leaf fan....but I must say the arguements you made in your last post are off and don't even make sense. I am not a fan of the Oilers, but they had a great TEAM in the '80's...not just the Great One, the Team. Ottawa has put much better teams on the ice recently than the Leafs....even Tampa Bay - and they won "The Cup".

    Comes down to a good GM - I hope for the sake of people who have to watch TSN (Toronto Sports Network) and the media who always focus on the Leafs - that The Leafs do better so that we are not bombarded with "The Leafs did this, the Leafs did that". There are 5 other Candian NHL teams and I'd like to see equal coverage of.
  21. James C from Shenzhen, China writes: "J.C. Petite from Toronto, Canada writes: Wow congrats Ottawa on your failed cup final, way to go....here is a ribbon for trying. Cmon, last time I checked 2nd place got you nothing."
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    yeah there's no prize for 2nd place. but you have to at least get to the finals to have a chance to win them. and many teams that win the cup have lost at least one final before they finally succeeded.

    the only thing toronto has in its favour are fans and cash. other than that, none of which are any use when the rest of the organization looks like ground zero.
  22. Rob Rocket from Thunder Bay, Canada writes: I'll take the job coaching the Leafs. I'll be fired by Christmas, but still make about five year's worth of wages in that time. There's a thought...everyone in Ontario can take a turn coaching the Leafs. We'll all make a bit of extra coin, and surely the team won't do any worse. Could be an interesting make-work program.

    Quenneville? Good hockey mind; the Avs are making a huge mistake. My advice to him would be to keep moving, do not stop in Toronto. But really, who wouldn't take the gig? It's the toughest challenge going. Heck, even I'm up for it!
  23. Dave The Rave from Ottawa, Canada writes: Here's a scenario. Quenneville goes to Atlanta. Hartley gets hired in Ottawa. Patrick Roy gets an offer to take over in Colorado. That leaves Vancouver, Florida and the Leafs each without a head...coach. Quick...which teams have the most obviously dysfunctional owners?
  24. Verona Raven from United States writes: The only people who will coach in TO are Barry Melrose or Ted Nolan....

    Why put up with all the media garbage? 41 years and counting....
  25. Proud Canadian from Canada writes: Verona, why put Nolan's name in the soup. Sorry, too good a man to be coaching in Toronto. He's with the Islanders, he's ok there. Ted had enough trouble getting rid of that nemisis Domink Hasek who cost him his job in Buffalo. Hear Hasek is going back to the old country to stay. Good idea Dom, u've been over here too long anyway.
  26. John Simmons from Canada writes: The only Canadian hockey fans that can harp on the Leafs' failures are Habs and Oilers fans. Otherwise, your team is really no better than the Leafs, including the one-hit wonder Flames. Win the Cup and maintain competitiveness, then talk. It makes no difference how many finals you reach. Otherwise, I could just say similarly illogical comments like, "Well the Leafs have been to more semi-finals in the past dozen years than any other Canadian team." Wow, what an opportunity to pat yourself on the back if you're a Leaf fan. Bottom line: if you haven't won it all, what's the point? Why argue such inane details, like winning the Presidents Cup. We all know the Leafs are terrible and their organization is in dire straits; that is no revelation. It is also true the media pay too much attention to the Leafs. However, this is a product of supply and demand, simple economics. If nobody wanted to hear about the Leafs, channels like Sportsnet would actually have higher ratings than TSN and CBC. Like Howard Stern, people love and hate the Leafs and thus want to know what happens next. Leaf haters are what keep these boards full, and in the process sell newspapers and increase ratings. If you hate how much coverage the Leafs get, look in the mirror and do something about it. Because all you're really doing is masking your own team's (read: Canucks and/or Senators) futility by denouncing a seemingly far worse-off team in the Leafs. Be constructive in your commentary for once. It'll help your credibility the next time your team beats the Leafs. Don't forget, sports are cyclical as well...one day the Leafs will return and your team will be in the basement. Then no one will listen to you.

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