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Clinton wins big in West Virginia

DAVID ESPO AND MATT APUZZO

Associated Press

Latest comment posted at 8:50 PM EDT 13/05/08

But as superdelegates continue to swing to Barack Obama, her White House bid becomes increasingly desperate ...Read the full article

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  1. Mike M from Shenacadie NS, Canada writes: I'm sure she'll be on stage tonight to entertain all with her' Yaaaaaaaaaaa knooooooooooooow they counted me out before..............'
  2. a l from Toronto, Canada writes: The thing is - if it is over for Senator Clinton, why do people keep voting for her and how is it that she can still win states? There is something the Americans need to learn about the pitfalls of a coronation. The lessons of Paul Martin's rise and fall are telling.
  3. Beatriz Perez-Sanchez from Toronto, Canada writes: West Virginia is one stop too many on Mrs. Clinton's 'farewell tour'. She is like a singer who is well past her 'best before' date but doesn't know when to stop. Rather than leave her adoring fans with fond memories of her once great performances, she will leave them with the pathetic image of a soon-to-be has-been who can no longer reach the high notes. Although her West Virginia performance may draw great crowds, Mrs. Clinton's inability to know when to retire may turn it into her swan song. (Well, it's time to put away the cliche-o-matic and the metaphor machine for now.)
  4. D M from Canada writes: I think Obama passed Clinton in the Super Delagate count this past weekend.
  5. Rain Couver from Canada writes: Do not forget that there are still over 200 super delegates that are still undecided. Just because delegates are won in the state primaries, does not automatically commit super delegates who are not affiliated to states, but are important party members in some capacity. As good as it looks for Obama, do not celebrate yet.
  6. JA M from Our Town, Canada writes: When the hell does this thing end???
  7. SB from Ontario from Canada writes: Clinton campaign is still in denial. Not sure why HRC cannot see what is going on and what kind of miracle she is hoping for at this stage when every one else has moved on to the next phase. Have some dignity and quit. Didn't anyone teach you life is not fair and just accept it.
  8. Sam Patel from Vancouver, Canada writes: So...28 delegates up for grabs. Is Obama even going to attend West Virginia? This race is so over.
  9. Brian Dell from Alberta, Canada writes: Why is Barack Obama always described as a black man with a white mother instead of a white man with a black father?
  10. KSW livin'in from Canada writes: The voters should be concerned about Clinton's apparent inability to do math.

    When you can't win it is time to move on and stop giving the Republicans more fuel.
  11. Mr. Justice from Canada writes: Somehow . . . some Clinton supporters have been told that . . . Obama is really a MUSLIM.

    WOW; how did THIS information get passed out ? Oh, wait . . . .
  12. Mark H from Indy, United States writes: 'JA M from Our Town, Canada writes: When the hell does this thing end??? '

    When somebody gets 2025 delegates. I mean 2209....funny how Howard Dean's snit-fit over Michigan and Florida has turned this whole race into a farce. Methinks they'll be re-writing a few rules after this debacle, and quietly get rid of the superdelegates. Funny how a party who prides itself on populism leaves their Presidential candidate in the hands of party sockpuppets instead of the people.
  13. Mr. Justice from Canada writes: Florida Democrats and Michigan Democrats violated the rules of the organization to which they belong; this was their choice, and they now pay the penalty; they knew exactly what they were risking when they held their primaries before their national organization authorized them . . . the Democratic parties in those states bound themselves by a set of rules, they knew that the penalty for violation included not having a voice at the national convention through delegate votes; then they violated the rules anyway; oh, well . . . .

    On the Creepublican side, the right-wingers have dropped their characterization of McCain as 'a liberal' (REALLY smart move, dullards). They are now trying to cast him as 'a centrist' (good luck with that one . . . HA HA !)
  14. crime of the century from This is not America, Canada writes:
    The hyper competitive highway to nowhere. This horse race will get nowhere but around in circles. The dems have no chance of significantly changing the road america is on. The USA is a doomed and failing empire and Obama or Hillary or even Mcain as prez will accomplish nothing.
  15. Bubbles McBubbles from Trawna, Canada writes: Hillary will be dropping her endings and plucking on her banjo tomorrow night going for that vital cracker vote. Meanwhile Obama has McCain in his sights. Time for Emma to offer him the VP spot again. :D
  16. Mr. Justice from Canada writes: . . . and McCain will be the next US president.

    All he has to say is 'Boo!' and the Democrats will scatter; needless to say, it's a proven technique.
  17. Brian Dell from Alberta, Canada writes: Mark from the US: See the 'History of Superdelegates' post at http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/15/04637/1558/471/457181 written by 'Poblano', the guy who blogs at FiveThirtyEight.com.

    A reason for superdelegates is 'To check against a plurality, factional candidate who does not reflect the prevailing sentiment of the electorate.... rather than to override the will of the electorate, superdelegates were created in some sense to enforce it in elections whose results were skewed by odd delegate allocations or weak multi-way fields that would allow a fringe candidate to win a plurality.'

    Superdelegates can thus mitigate some of the problems with the first-part-the-post system.

    If the 'people' had made a very clear choice, the votes of the superdelegates would not matter.
  18. Harvey Mushman from cambridge, Canada writes: a l from Toronto, Canada writes: 'The thing is - if it is over for Senator Clinton, why do people keep voting for her and how is it that she can still win states?' Look no further than Obama's skin tone for your answer. I've lived and worked in the southern US and my observation is that for many of the (to use Hillary's characterization) 'hard-working white families' will vote along racial lines. This does not bode well for Democrats come the general election if many voters choose to vote for a white Republican instead of a 'black' (which I find rather funny as well given his mixed heritage) Democrat. Democrats may stay just home in droves or split their vote with Nader. If Obama can truly rise above all of this and move America past the racial stereotypes and hang ups of the past...he'll go down in history.
  19. S. Bluecat from Netherlands writes: Since when is West Virginia an 'important swing state'? What a joke. There's no contest here. Regardless of Hillary's supposed edge, fueled by reasons we dare not ask, a Democrat will not win the November election in this state. This is the same state that adamantly rejected Al Gore in 2000 because of his environmental position, and had it not been for the loss of their small amount of electoral votes there would have been no GWB. Of all the US states, they have THE LEAST concern for the environment no matter how you cut it. Their negligence is almost wholly responsible for the recent ratings showing Pittsburgh's bad air quality (there is virtually no heavily polluting industry left there, neither in the city nor in its metropolitan area), though nearly all of this blows in from the Weirton-Wheeling corridor on the prevailing west-southwesterly winds. Further, due to its lack of ethnic diversity most see no great need for social change, the sort that Obama talks about. I'd wager 95 percent of those white, blue-collar workers voting for Hillary will turn right around and vote McCain in November.
  20. Sam Patel from Vancouver, Canada writes: Vote for me instead. I can rack up debt and convince white rural republicans to vote for me rather than a 'unpatriotic muslim'.
  21. Mike M from Shenacadie NS, Canada writes: Mr. Justice from Canada writes: Somehow . . . some Clinton supporters have been told that . . . Obama is really a MUSLIM.

    WOW; how did THIS information get passed out ? Oh, wait . . . .

    ================================================
    New conspiricy theory: Obama created Jerimiah Wright to prove that he's not a Muslim. After all Billary stated that Obama wasn't a Muslim ..as far as she knew.....
  22. Mark H from Indy, United States writes: 'Brian Dell from Alberta, Canada writes: Mark from the US: See the 'History of Superdelegates' post at http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/15/04637/1558/471/457181 written by 'Poblano', the guy who blogs at FiveThirtyEight.com.'

    First, I wouldn't point anybody to dailykos to try and get a clear view of anything. Second, I'm very well-versed on the role of the SD's and the reasons for their creation, and that paragraph you quoted ain't it. Google 'McGovern superdelegates', or just go to wikipedia. They have a good unbiased analysis that doens't make the SD's look like such altruistic knights in shiny armor. DailyKos....uh, I feel like I need a shower.

    'If the 'people' had made a very clear choice, the votes of the superdelegates would not matter. '

    To that I say 'why not just let the people make the choice, period?' Is overturning the will of 50.5% (just picking a number out of the air) of voting Democrats fair?
  23. Child of the North in Canada from Canada writes: Obama's speech to veterans yesterday in West Virginia was really great. Here it is:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NpP5zgc6qo
  24. Northern Boy from Sudbury, Canada writes: Do what's best for your party Hillary and concede defeat. All this dragging out does is help your next bid for the presidency, but does nothing to help garner support for the Democratic party.
  25. A J from Calgary, Canada writes: In most Presidential primaries in the U.S., both Democratic and Republican, the presumptive nominee is identified incredibly early--often after the first two or three states have caucused or voted.

    This year, a lot of voters whose primary votes have never really counted before get to enjoy the opportunity to participate in the decision-making.

    Voters in the Appalachian region have voted pretty solidly for Clinton this year. West Virginians and Kentuckians are getting their chance to have their say before the whole thing is wrapped up. Good for them.

    The voters in Montana and South Dakota, who are likely to be more supportive of Obama than Clinton, will probably be voting after Obama has already secured the majority of pledged delegates. Same for the last contest in Puerto Rico. Maybe, next time, their primaries will be earlier.

    So as much as I'd like to see Democrats wrap up the nomination soon, I can't help but think it is a pretty good thing to see so many voters feeling that their primary votes really mattered this time.

    And perhaps Clinton plans to celebrate her solid win in West Virginia, and then exit the race on that high note.
  26. Mary Smith from United States writes:

    It's amusing reading comments about race or racism in America from Canadians who, compared to the US, are lily white.
  27. bruce weaver from Canada writes: I don;t care what you call it, I will say it again Obama will not win against McCain. The Democrats do not win without West Virginia, Ohio and Florida and Obama will not win those states for whatever reason you want to call it.
  28. South Paw from Montreal, Canada writes: Here are your true Clinton supporters. Rock the Hillbilly vote!

    http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=95263
  29. Rain Couver from Canada writes: Mr. Justice from Canada writes: Somehow . . . some Clinton supporters have been told that . . . Obama is really a MUSLIM.

    WOW; how did THIS information get passed out ? Oh, wait . . . .

    >>Obama is not Muslim, his father was as well as his brother.

    Mary Smith from United States writes:

    It's amusing reading comments about race or racism in America from Canadians who, compared to the US, are lily white.

    >>It is amusing reading comments about race or racism in America from Americans who, compared to Canada, are ignorant. 73% of the US is white, just 12% Black and 14% Hispanic. Speaking of lily white...
  30. Cheryl Nelson from Bloomington, MN, United States writes: Brian Dell from Alberta, Canada writes: Why is Barack Obama always described as a black man with a white mother instead of a white man with a black father? _________ Good one! I guess it all boils down to this...if you saw Barack Obama walking down the street, what would you see - a white man, a black man, or a little of both? Obama grew up in Hawaii - one of the most racially diverse states in the country. Many Hawaiians are of mixed ethnic and racial heritage. Mixed-race people there aren't a curiosity like in most of the contiguous U.S. They're the norm. Hawaii's racial mix is more Asian and Pacific Islander. Still, you are what you are. He moved to California to attend Occidental College. California is also a racially diverse state and home to plenty of mixed-race people. Even there, however, a mixed-race person has to confront where he/she fits in - if only to satisfy the perceptions of others. The rubber hit the road when Obama transferred to Columbia University in New York City. NYC is racially diverse in its own right. However - the Columbia campus is not far from Harlem - the Mecca of African American culture. Blacks look at Obama and see a guy who looks kind of black, but not quite. He speaks with no trace of Southern regionalization common even among northern blacks. The dirty little secret in American race relations is that many AAs have mixed-race DNA reaching back to the days of slavery. African Americans skin tones range widely, even within families. Whites (the majority), OTOH, key in on certain physical features and his skin color and *know* Obama is black. The idea that he's bi-racial doesn't even cross their minds unless they're told of it. What you see largely depends on one's own background.
  31. South Paw from Montreal, Canada writes: This is a tad off topic but it's truly funny.

    Anyone who knows of Bill O'Reilly knows how big a tool he is.........

    Here's a great early clip from his 'Inside Edition' days courtesy of the huffington post.........

    He hasn't changed a bit...except for having less hair maybe

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/12/bill-oreilly-on-inside-ed_n_101267.html
  32. Mark H from Indy, United States writes: I think what Mary meant, Rain Couver, is that a higher percentage of Canada's population is white as compared to America (84% for Canada, 73% for the US). Whether that makes you 'lily white' compared to the US is debatable.
  33. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: A J from Calgary, Canada writes: ...And perhaps Clinton plans to celebrate her solid win in West Virginia, and then exit the race on that high note.

    Let's hope so, otherwise she's putting the sword in Obamas neck - so that she may best be able to take one more shot at the President's office in four years time. Speaking of time - Hillary's is done, how best to save face and bow out will show you one of two things; Class or vindictiveness...
  34. Dave T from midwest, Canada writes: If Howard Cosell was alive, he would describe this contest as a heavyweight fight and would be saying things like 'what a gritty performance by Hillary Clinton, still throwing punches with both eyes swollen shut.' Or maybe he would say, 'I can't believe the referees haven't stopped this fight. This is a disgrace to boxing. Clearly, Hillary Clinton cannot continue.' Or maybe he would say,'Who said Barack Obama cannot take a punch? Look at him dancing around the ring while the sluggish Clinton can only clutch and grab.'
  35. Mike M from Shenacadie NS, Canada writes: A great item from Saturday Night Live: http://www.nbc.com/SaturdayNightLive/video/play.shtml?mea=250052
  36. Duane Freemantle from writes: Even though everyone believes the Clinton will win West Virgina, some will believe that it is a meaningless vote. Others will be confused. One would hope that the polls are wrong that one time out of twenty.

    I think that when the dust settles Ms. Clinton's political potential to be ever considered as presidential material will be over. She has put herself into a do or die situation, through a poor politician performance. Everyone in her camp is in denial as they see that her chances are mathematically possible (ie 1,703 189 250 = victory), even though it is statistically impossible. She has to convince the super delegates to vote against the popular vote, and you still may not get the nomination.

    The responses from the members of the Democratic party is not surprising, they have put the party ahead of their own political aspirations and hope. Now it is Ms. Clinton's turn.
  37. Mr. Justice from Canada writes: YUP. That video of Family Values Christian Bill O'Reilly is, y'know, 'a keeper'.
  38. Mr. Justice from Canada writes: . . . it was O'Reilly (remember ?) who came out with the entirely-fictional 'War on Christmas' and who reprises it each year.
  39. Hans Ulster from From the Canadian Oilpatch, Canada writes: Obama now understands why Hamas supports him (LOL):

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/29925Obama-IUnderstandWhyHamasDigs_Me

    While maintaining an ironclad commitment to Israel’s security, Barack Obama says he understood why a top Hamas adviser voiced support for his presidential bid.

    “It’s conceivable that there are those in the Arab world who say to themselves, ‘This is a guy who spent some time in the Muslim world, has a middle name of Hussein and appears more worldly and has called for talks with people, and so he’s not going to be engaging in the same sort of cowboy diplomacy as George Bush,’” Obama said in an interview with The Atlantic.

    “That’s a perfectly legitimate perception as long as they’re not confused about my unyielding support for Israel’s security,” Obama said.
  40. Mr. Justice from Canada writes: Hans . . . do you think that the tactic of spreading the rumor that Obama is really a Muslim . . . is a good idea ?
  41. South Paw from Montreal, Canada writes:
    Hans Ulster from From the Canadian Oilpatch, Canada writes: Obama now understands why Hamas supports him (LOL):
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    The same Hamas spokesperson who said they would prefer Obama, likened him to a former great President, JFK. Given the implications of your racist-tinged posts, something tells me you don't have nearly the requisite cajones to rag on Irish Catholics.

    Hans Ulster = Credibility Gap, mostly between the ears.
  42. R. Carriere from Maritimes, Canada writes:

    Hillary made a major error when 'Bill' started talking..

    'Bill' is like the old beat up and tarred Teddy bear on the sofa-cute, until it starts to move and talk and people start to ask the questions and really remember,' Why is he tarred and beat up..'

    His 'campaigning' for Hilllary killed her..and exposed her and reminded people of what a villian she truly was/is.......and the bagage she possessed!

    Thank god people are not buying off on her 'experience' Conspiracy Theory! She is only the junior Senator from a bought-out New York Senatorial race..nothing more....unless one considers one being married to the CEO of a company 'experience?' THINK!

    OBAMA? A free pass to date by the US MSM (so frightened to ask the right questions) . McCain? Another free pass as to his mental and physical capacity-cabability-stability?.

    Ask this question: Who OWNS CNN-FOX-CNMBC- all the major networks, newspapers, Hollywood, book publishers, radio, ......perhaps 10 people?

    They will decide-watch for the BIAS-watch for the chasing of scandal vs. the issues. You will know by 'The Media!' Add to that, 'Vote-counting machines' LOL.... Scepticism? Perhaps....Reality?
    .
  43. Right said fred from Canada writes: Why doesn't she just bow out and say goodbye. She is what 60, with millions in the bank. Why would she want the mess to inherit from Bush? Go buy an island somewhere, send Bill out to do more motivations speaking tours to keep the $ rolling in, write a few books, make some TV appearances here and there, live up life to the fullest for the next 20-30 years in retirement!
  44. Mr. Justice from Canada writes: Hans . . . you quoted from an article in 'The Atlantic'.

    Looks like the article was just another product of neocon 'fact-twisting':
    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/the-goldberg-va.html

    Looks like your buddy (the author of that 'article') got caught. HA HA !
  45. Mr. Justice from Canada writes: Meanwhile . . . the Rev. Dr. John Hagee, spiritual adviser to the next US president, issued a half-baked 'non-apology apology' for some of his stupid remarks in which he referred to the Catholic Church as 'the whore of Babylon' ( . . . oh no ! 'the whore of Babylon ??? Not THAT !!!):

    http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/PastorHageeapologizesforantiCa05132008.html

    If you want to see what he said, here ya go:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uViQ0hVV57Q

    BTW, that IS the Rev. Dr. John Hagee in that video . . . it is NOT Porky Pig.
  46. R Miller from Halifax, Canada writes: The Never Ending story...

    How many times can you fool the sheeple into believing that you are a survivalist ?

    BTW Ordered my Ron Paul book from Amazon.com yesterday... The #1 best selling book in America in only its second week of sales...

    Going to have to wait a bit since its already on back order...

    Cheers.
  47. crime of the century from This is not America, Canada writes: You tried to be a hero,
    commit the perfect crime
    but the dollar got you dancing
    and you`re running out of time.

    I`ve heard it all before
    You`re saying nothing new
    I thought I saw a rainbow
    but I guess it wasn`t true
    You cannot make me listen
    I cannot make you hear
    You find your way to heaven
    I`ll meet you when you`re there.

    Child of Vision, won`t you listen
    Find yourself a new ambition.
  48. Albin Forone from Canada writes: Probably time to tune this out until September: C is now holding out to make a statement that, either 1) if O implodes before the convention, I'm here, but more likely 2) I don't think O can beat M, and if he loses, I'm here.
  49. Emma Hawthorne from Canada writes: Doesn't anyone care that Americans have been shafted. Their government expects them to stand at attention every time they wave the flag, then pony up with cash for the next US sponsored international conflict then go home and into lockdown to keep out its burgeoning criminal element, while watching 50 crime shows each night on televisions and ponying up with more money for extra police and prisions for its through-the-rough crime machine? Well I do. I don't want to see anymore wasted lives. I want Americans to have what other developed nations have in terms of education access, quality public schools for all and timely access to medical testing and care. As Obama plans to leave 14M at the starting line and HIllary will take the whole 43M Americans without medical insurance, I'm for HIllary. I would also like to see a black president (although I have 'white' European friends who are darker in skin colour than Obama. But, for me and for world peace and harmony, I think Hillary's agenda is more important now. Let her transform America with studied social programs. Then, there's nothing more I would like see than Obama in the White House. I see this avenue as a sure thing. I also think America could just as easily be loved as hated around the world. It's can-do attitude and vibrant culture are winsome and intoxicating. Charm school for an abrasive superpower, would also be nice.
  50. Jack Mrnsie from Canada writes: I'm surprised they just don't through her into jail, we all want Obama and she is causing stress for everyone.
  51. aging oldtool from Canada writes: Mary Smith from the USA, good to see you're still chasing down snippets of the truth here on a Canadian newspaper's website.

    Sound' like they're like hens' teeth' eh Mary?
    But what'sthis about'lily white.'

    Someof us Canucks get a bit pale and are known to suffer bouts of SAD after a long winter in the cabin and all, but 'Lily white?'

    Come on now!

    Few of us suffer such pale even in our hardest to reach places.

    Besides Mary, how can you possibly call us Lily White when you know we like to sling dirt so much and that some always sticks on those who toss?
  52. bruce weaver from Canada writes: Jack Mrnsie if you want Obama then you want McCain. Read my earlier post.
  53. aging oldtool from Canada writes: Emma Hawthorne, if I had my way you'd be in line for an award on that post.

    You more than summed up many of my own feelings and you didn't have to employ even one of the invectives I often use to get someone's attention.

    I' m not convinced your political analysis is perfect, but your view of the bigger picture is positively clear. Thank you
  54. J. Bergin from Canada writes: DAVID ESPO AND MATT APUZZO
    Associated Press
    Ms. Clinton has done particularly well in primaries to date among older, less well-educated and lower-income families.

    In other words, she has cleaned up on the KKK vote.
  55. Jo Ingblat from Canada writes: South Paw: Bill Oreilly flippin-out... HILARIOUS!
  56. Emma Hawthorne from Canada writes: The combined Florida and Michigan delegates actually total about 105 with 72 going to Hillary and 33 to Obama, according to the NY Times charts, which they've had online from the start.
  57. Wilma De Bruyn from Toronto, Canada writes: Rain Couver from Canada writes: Mr. Justice from Canada writes: Somehow . . . some Clinton supporters have been told that . . . Obama is really a MUSLIM. WOW; how did THIS information get passed out ? Oh, wait . . . . >>Obama is not Muslim, his father was as well as his brother. Mary Smith from United States writes: It's amusing reading comments about race or racism in America from Canadians who, compared to the US, are lily white. >>It is amusing reading comments about race or racism in America from Americans who, compared to Canada, are ignorant. 73% of the US is white, just 12% Black and 14% Hispanic. Speaking of lily white... Posted 13/05/08 at 2:52 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment It does not matter what color anyone is, it's what is coming in the near future that counts. North American Union=Mexico, us of a and Canada. Super highway infrastructure=tolled highways. Terror within Canada=Concentration camps, us of a and Canada (The Biggest Secret by David Icke/www.antechips.dom/Satin on our Dollar-us of a/Radio Alchymy.com). Never mind the side show(Presidential race)It's the future after the President elect of Hillary RODHAM Clinton as it goes by bloodlines, nothing else. Amero will replace canadian currency.
  58. Mike M from Canada writes: Emma Hawthorne from Canada writes: Doesn't anyone care that Americans have been shafted. Their government expects them to stand at attention every time they wave the flag, then pony up with cash for the next US sponsored international conflict then go home and into lockdown to keep out its burgeoning criminal element, while watching 50 crime shows each night on televisions and ponying up with more money for extra police and prisions for its through-the-rough crime machine? Well I do. I don't want to see anymore wasted lives. I want Americans to have what other developed nations have in terms of education access, quality public schools for all and timely access to medical testing and care. As Obama plans to leave 14M at the starting line and HIllary will take the whole 43M Americans without medical insurance, I'm for HIllary. I would also like to see a black president (although I have 'white' European friends who are darker in skin colour than Obama. But, for me and for world peace and harmony, I think Hillary's agenda is more important now. Let her transform America with studied social programs. Then, there's nothing more I would like see than Obama in the White House. I see this avenue as a sure thing. I also think America could just as easily be loved as hated around the world. It's can-do attitude and vibrant culture are winsome and intoxicating. Charm school for an abrasive superpower, would also be nice.
    ===========================================
    Jeez Emma, you have white friends who are darker skinned than Obama!!!!! What Clinton sponsored KKK charm school did you attend anyhow. You used to be just ridiculous in your comments now you're
    playing 'the he isn't black enough card'. You Clinton crowd make me sick.
    BTW, where did you Clinton lovers dig up that nut bar Howard Wolfson who was just on CNN?
  59. Emma Hawthorne from Canada writes: HI aging oldtool. That's the nicest thing a commentator has ever said to me. Thank you. Hi South Paw. Given that Hillary has almost half of college graduates and a preponderance of those ranging from high school to some university, she has significant support among those few Americans lucky enough to have an education. However, given that the most important thing now is that the Democrats must win, demographics need to be carefully analysed because the primaries only reflect interested groups who turned out, and are not a fair representation of the entire voting poulation. As I said earlier, indicators are that a Clinton ticket now with Obama later, really is a sure thing. She would handily beat McCain. But Obama could lose. That would be a terrible shame. No liberal minded individual wants that to happen.
  60. Harbinger from Out West from Prince George, Canada writes: Clinton is like herpes. It seems to be forever. Still can't comment about Mr. Kahdr. Bummer. Nor about Asian 'fishers' and their problems. I always thought a ' fisher' was a misspelled crack. As in fissure. Leave my English language alone, please.
  61. Roop Misir from Toronto, Canada writes:
    Sure Clinton knows public sentiment. ...

    Does she want to leave on the high note?
  62. Emma Hawthorne from Canada writes: Hi Mike M. Perhaps my wording was not ideal, but my point was that skin colour doesn't matter at all. If Obama was my twin or an even smarter sister of HIllary's, he wouldn't get my vote without Hillary's agenda. I want those 43 million people rescued now. Thousands are dying, yes, dying! each year for want of timely medical testing to catch disease early when lives can be saved. Thousands more Americans are being mowed down by avoidable crime. Hundreds of thousands of mostly men who could be learning trades and signing up for home ownership savings plans are rotting in prisons and ruminating over future crimes to stem their humilation and anger. Millions of American children can't get to life's starting line for want of help for their struggling or ill parents, a lack of enriching pre-schools, better public schools and more readiness programs.
    And the most annoying thing is that doing the right thing is actually cheaper when you add up all of the costs, than not doing it.
  63. Jo Ingblat from Canada writes: George Miller, you might want to look into spelling, punctuation, and grammar.
  64. george miller from naples fla, United States Outlying writes: Jo, sorry I was in a hurry, wanted watch hillary's acceptance speech to nowhere.
  65. martha stewart from Canada writes: No surprise. They like Billy Bob Clinton down there. But they'll vote for McCain in November.
  66. Donalda Williams Clogg from Hudson, Canada writes: If, as it appears, Mr.Obama is the nominee for the Democrats, I would think that John Edwards would be a good choice as vice-president and would encourage the particular voters he need to his side.
  67. Queen Street from Somewhere Over the Rainbow, Canada writes: Mrs. Clinton will go take the road to home and join the Kennedy, Kerry, Carter and Bush and will most likely make an argument on who killed more people, if Bush in the National Guard or Kennedy DUI. The bells are ringing and you guys are in the wrong parade. Today America is at the cross roads, like no long ago with Timothy Mc Veigh. Americans will have the opportunity to show the world how mature they are and why America is the world leader. You just watch!
  68. george miller from naples fla, United States Outlying writes: If you all have never been to West Virgina it is very beautiful, but the average person there only knows of Senator Bird. Bird is over 90, the leading Democrat in Virgina since Jesus was a boy, is not sure what day it is, and has told them to vote for Hillary. He could not remember her last name. Virginians have 200 yrs of coal, but they do not know that the Democrats want to tax it if elected. TV sets are not in every trailer park
  69. J. Bergin from Canada writes: John Edwards (who dropped out of the race several months ago) is getting 7% of the vote??? This really is an uneducated backward state.....no wonder Clinton won.
  70. Mr. Justice from Canada writes: If she plays the Gender-Victim Card every day, she will win the nomination.

    . . . of course, if she quits the time-released oxycontin, she'll stop campaigning.
  71. Don Portz from Trochu AB, Canada writes: to george miller - well said. We complain when the USA makes comments on our political scene, but feel justified to exert our superiority of knowledge on everyonelse. May the best person win the nomination.
  72. Mike M from Sheunacadie N.S., Canada writes: Good night Emma, it used to be a bit of a challenge responding to your pro Hillary rants. Like your candidate, you are getting too kooky to even merit a response.
  73. george miller from naples fla, United States Outlying writes: Bergin, Sorry it's not as backward as you guessed. The highway's are remarkable, 21st century, and the people are friendly & content in most parts. They do not have a QEW daily gridlock with everyone living around a lake with new homes & living conditons which will soon develop slums and they can afford to kill the weeds, cut the grass and plant flowers along their highways. Look at your's, Ugly
  74. Brendan Caron from vancouver, Canada writes: Why do I keep thinking about Dewey. He was Donald Duck's nephew wasn't he? It has something to do about the United States of America doesn't it?
  75. The Special One... I Am Fantastic from Setanta TV, Canada writes: So Emma you'll vote Hillary based on a trumped up health care idea? What about her lying about her important past? What about her voting in favour of Iraq? How about her constant waffling in the wind on proposals because she thinks it will score her better fan base instead of sticking to her guns? And you truly think she'll handily beat McCain...tad dillusional?
    Your darling Hillary is a crackpot, lying psychopath...then again so are her legions of followers.
  76. Randal Oulton from Canada writes: Hillary should run as an Independent. You hang in there, girl!
  77. Stewart Mawdsley from Canada writes: I think it's a shame. Obama's time to run should have been in 4-8 years when he was more experienced and had more substance. Hilary has 'baggage', but what is that really? People don't like her personality? The association w/ her husband? Remeber that most people who meet the most evil and hardcore right wing Bushies like Karl Rove find them quite charming in person (the devils always are).

    We also know more about her than almost any presendential candidate previously, which I think is good. I think she has a lot of strengths, whereas, aside from Barack being a gifted oreator, what do we really know are his good qualities. Hilary has the strength to stand up to Republican attacks, I hope Obama does too... but I fear not. It would be horrid if after all that Bush has done to desecrate America the Republicans still managed to retain the white house.

    Oh, and to the guy that said it was racist for whites to vote for Clinton, how about the 92 odd percent of blacks who vote for Obama? I'm sure that's all about merit.
  78. Randy D from Canada writes: Remember, both these people want to cancel NAFTA which almost everyone in the business community will tell you has been good for all concerned. The left wing loon-atics don't think so but creating wealth has never been an issue for most of them.
  79. Bubbles McBubbles from Trawna, Canada writes: Randal Oulton from Canada writes: 'Hillary should run as an Independent. You hang in there, girl!'

    Hillary will never do that. She needs the dems to bail her out of that huge deficit she's run up.
  80. bob saunders from Belleville, ON, Canada writes: Stewart Mawdsley from Canada writes:

    We also know more about her than almost any presendential candidate previously, which I think is good. I think she has a lot of Oh, and to the guy that said it was racist for whites to vote for Clinton, how about the 92 odd percent of blacks who vote for Obama? I'm sure that's all about merit--------------------------------- yea and they all have university degrees all 92% of them.
  81. Mary Smith from United States writes:

    Emma Hawthorne

    Your envy of America is HYSTERICAL.

    You are the epitome of the ignorant Canadian.
  82. Ed Long from white Rock, Canada writes: This is her only chance for her dream. She won't quit but will have to be emphatically defeated.
  83. brian silva from Canada writes: Hillary has no dignity, shame, nor manners - what she'll do next is anyone's guess - most likely whore herself out to the remaining superdelegates in order to gain a few more votes.
  84. Mary Smith from United States writes:

    Emma Hawthorne

    Timely medical care?

    Why do you think Canadians are sent to America for health care? HA! HA!

    Americans lucky enough to get an education? 8 of the top ten Universities are in the US. Nada for Canada.

    How are the Nobel Prizes coming there in Canada? HA! HA!

    Innovation? America.

    You're embarrassing yourself with your Canadian Inferiority Complex.
  85. Mary Smith from United States writes:

    One more thing;

    Hillary is a lying, conniving, INCOMPETENT, corrupt, disingenuous, megalomaniac loser, which is why Americans are rejecting her. No wonder why she's your hero. What a dimwit you are.
  86. Harper should go back to his evil layer (ASAP) from Canada writes: Americans are almost as big of a joke as the canadians conservative party. Anything other than Obama just isn't acceptable. Real change is needed.
  87. David Simon from Canada writes: This is very interesting-you don't see McCain losing GOP primaries do you?
  88. Mary Smith from United States writes:

    Mark H. from Indy

    The US Census Bureau 2006 lists Whites (non-Hispanics) at 66.4%.

    Yet stupid Canadians comment about race in the US.
  89. Randal Oulton from Canada writes: >> Harper should go back to his evil layer (ASAP) from Canada writes: Americans are almost as big of a joke as the canadians conservative party. Anything other than Obama just isn't acceptable. Real change is needed.

    What, 37 years of Liberal government??
  90. moksha guadeloupe from Sodom, Canada writes: Emma Hawthorne -

    You say 'Hundreds of thousands of mostly men who could be learning trades and signing up for home ownership savings plans are rotting in prisons and ruminating over future crimes to stem their humilation and anger'. - WTF is that? Are you trying to say that Hillary will let them all out? That Hillary will loan them all money (at reasonable interest rates) to buy homes? That sniper-duckin', beer-swillin', Michigan-countin' hard-workin' white American Hillary will rehabilitate the entire country? Wow. Good for her. At first I assumed that you were just trying to be funny. But after reading some of your other posts, I'm starting to think that you may actually be serious in your evaluation of this contest. I'm really worried about you Emma.

    On another note, you are quite correct that Hillary should win the nomination. Also, I think the Montreal Canadiens have a valid argument that they should be in this year's final. After all, they didn't get to play any games in Michigan or Florida during the playoffs.

    MG
  91. Tony . from Waterloo, Canada writes: Harvey Mushman from cambridge, Canada writes: 'I've lived and worked in the southern US and my observation is that for many of the (to use Hillary's characterization) 'hard-working white families' will vote along racial lines.'

    Of course they will, they'll vote along racial lines straight to McCain, or any other Republican for that matter.

    The fact is that the VAST bulk of the people that wouldn't vote for Obama because of his skin colour are already not voting for the guy because he's a democrat.

    They can only vote against him once!
  92. Scott Anderson from London, Canada writes: Typical bad editoral written artical? LOL

    They have Clinton as Ms. Clinton's throughout the whole document

    Maybe Mrs. Clinton would be betteratleast until she looses then kicks Bill to the curb.
  93. Scott Anderson from London, Canada writes: A man died and went to heaven. As he stood in front of St. Peter at the
    Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him. He asked,
    'What are all those clocks?'
    St. Peter answered, 'Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone on Earth has a
    Lie-Clock. Every time you lie the hands on your clock will move.'
    'Oh,' said the man, 'Whose clock is that?'
    'That's Mother Teresa's. The hands have never moved, indicating that she
    never told a lie.'
    'Incredible,' said the man. 'And whose clock is that one?'
    St. Peter responded, 'That's Abraham Lincoln's clock. The hands have moved
    twice, telling us that Abe told only two lies in his entire life.'
    'Where's Hillary Clinton's clock?' asked the man.
    'Hillary's clock is in Gabriel's office. He's using it as a ceiling fan.'
  94. Joe Calgarian from Canada writes: So Americans have to choose between the 'I have a dream' candidate, the 'I dodged sniper fire' candidate and the 'Bomb, bomb, Iran' candidate. Come election time, I think they should write in 'Other' on the ballot.
  95. The Last Honest Conservative from Western, Canada writes:
    ...................... so a 9 delegate gain is a 'big win'

    who writes this stuff ?
  96. The Last Honest Conservative from Western, Canada writes:
    eat your heart out Joe Calgarian
    ............ you have the 'I have a biggest belly candidate'
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