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Strong aftershock rocks China lake

CARA ANNA

Associated Press

Latest comment posted at 12:39 AM EST 09/06/08

A 20-second temblor triggers landslides, shakes massive quake-formed lake that threatens to flood million-plus people ...Read the full article

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  1. Yvonne Wackernagel from Woodville, Canada writes: It is at a time like this when we read of these terrible disasters in the world that we should be extremely thankful that our troubles are so minor in comparison. It should remind us all to count our blessings and to remember that these people nor their Government brought on this disaster.
  2. Stude Ham from Outremont, Canada writes: Is this the very same lake that the communist chinese authorities decided to delay in draining so as to avoid ravaging floods?

    when did you say they're opening the games?
  3. B Lam from Canada writes: I am sure that China would love to postpone the Games by 1 year. However, would it be fair to all athletes?
  4. Liu Yunshan from China writes: I wonder if soil erosion from environmental degradation contributed to the widespread landslides. One area where the government certainly has blame is schools. Here's a good video report on the 10000 dead schoolchildren:

    http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_story=33c853f1e465517686b2ff5fa595f8f1d964b1e9
  5. Stude Ham from Outremont, Canada writes: Dear B. Lam...

    I'm sure that your question on the fairness to the athletes was facetious and well paolced sarcasm.

    With close to 80,000 killed (estimated) and at least 40,000 confirmed casualties, fairness to athletes is hardly a topic worth of any serious consideration.

    Let the GAMES BOYCOTT BEGIN!
  6. Pamphleteer . from Canada writes: Meanwhile, Canadians are in mourning over the loss of a TV jingle.
  7. A Civil Shine from Toronto, Canada writes:

    Sounds like bad karma.
  8. THE BARNSWALLOW from Canada writes:

    in the good book, we read that just prior to the end of time, there will be an upsurge in earthquakes and other natural catastrophes, as well as conditions leading to a clamour for world, not just national, solutions.

    i sure hope this isn't it, but it is a little uncanny and unsettling, isn't it, what with climate, terrorism, shortages of food and energy!
  9. Pamphleteer . from Canada writes: THE BARNSWALLOW: There's always one in the crowd to seeks to pin the causes of the errs of the world on a supernatural design.

    These modern catastrophes are our own making. It's humanity who has brought these troubles on itself. Earthquakes are a natural phenomenon, though some would link the uprise in such activity to to climate shifts. As for the food shortage, that is problem which is entirely human made and could be very easily solved.
  10. THE BARNSWALLOW from Canada writes:

    hey Pamphleteer ...

    you have just constructed a straw man fallacy - proposing something that was not said, in order to attack something so as to make an unrelated statement.

    i'm not saying who caused the current conditions - only that the good book predicted this sort of a concurrence of events. the good book didn't say what or who caused them; only that a time would come, preceding the end of time, when the world's problems would get so large that only a one-world solution would be sought.

    and i simply comment that it's uncanny in light of what we're seeing. the good book never attributes bad things to the supernatural, does it?
  11. Brendan Caron from vancouver, Canada writes: It's good that they are using their work to prevent more damage to the citizens. The perils of living in this zone are many and many of them are deadly. Funny how man made machinery can help avert total disaster. Stay safe until it's all clear.
  12. Pamphleteer . from Canada writes: THE BARNSWALLOW: That's rich. A guy who references the Bible is saying I'm being illogical.
  13. Pamphleteer . from Canada writes: THE BARNSWALLOW: In any case I did not construct a straw man argument. You comments implied that we are living in the 'end of days' as proposed by the Bible.
  14. J Z from Toronto, Canada writes: I wouldn't attribute anything here to Karma, since there are so many counterexamples in history where karma was not met. Besides, this is a natural disaster, and the whole idea of karma is a gestalt way of looking at the wills of individual people. The force of karma comes from people, not nature. Furthermore, if it is indeed karma, then you'd think disaster would favor Tibetans and disfavor CCP government, yet that is not the case. Some of the hardest-hit areas were actually mainly populated by people of Tibet origin.

    I think most people who finds these events unsettling due to descriptions in 'the good book' would be ones who actually gives credibility to 'the good book.' I don't think it's unsettling. 'The good book' has too much contradictions within it for anyone with a critical mind to take seriously.

    I hope the rest of the relief effort goes successfully. I also hope the Olympics turn out successful despite all the setbacks. I disagree with advocates of boycotting. There are always differences between different people. Human beings should be rational and compassionate to our human nature to thrive together. We are to respect those differences and work on understanding, and understanding doesn't mean to wave a banner and go like 'be like us or we'll hate you.'
  15. A Civil Shine from Toronto, Canada writes:

    THE BARNSWALLOW - the 'good book'? How condescending of you. What's 'good' about it? The 'good book' as you call it was written over a period of hundreds of years by numerous authors. The church then removed many 'books' within it that were written by individuals (including Mary Magdalen who then labeled her a 'whore') whose opinions differed from that of the church. Bascially, the scam worked like this - if J.C. was a mere mortal - no religion, no religion meant no control by the church over man, which meant no money or land for the church. J.C. (your purported 'spiritual leader') was a man - nothing more, nothing less. He married Mary Magdalen and had several children with her. Proof of which were the bones of both Mary (mother of J.C.) Joseph (father of J.C.), J.C., Mary Magdalen, and those of their 3 children which were found in an ossuary in Israel in the 1980s.

    DNA analysis by the Paleo-DNA Laboratory, Department of Anthropology and Biology, Lakehead University in Thunder Bay, Ontario has since confirmed those bones as that of J.C. and his family as confirmed by statiscal inference.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, Barnswallow.

    SOURCE: http://www.jesusfamilytomb.com
  16. A Civil Shine from Toronto, Canada writes:

    'statistical' inference (a victim of spellcheck).
  17. Roop Misir from Toronto, Canada writes:
    A Civil Shine from Toronto, Canada writes:

    'Sounds like bad karma.'

    Bad karma by the victims?
  18. S J in T.O. from Canada writes: You know what would be really earth-shattering? If people would keep there comments on a specific thread on the topic of the thread. This one has gone from 'after shocks in China' to whether the bible is for real and if J.C. was who the bible claims or just and ordinary guy with a family.
    But this is typical. We start out discussing an article in the paper and it quickly evaporates into something completely out in left field.
  19. Pamphleteer . from Canada writes: S J in T.O.: Well I wasn't the one who brought the Bible into this, but once brought in, it needs to be ridiculed.
  20. Brendan Caron from vancouver, Canada writes: js frto... Why don't you read the thread and see where it goes awry? Then start putting two and two together. Don't be illusive.
  21. S J in T.O. from Canada writes: Brendan Caron from vancouver, Canada writes: js frto... Why don't you read the thread and see where it goes awry? Then start putting two and two together. Don't be illusive.

    Brendan,
    I wasn't being illusive. I did read the thread before making my comment. I know exactly where it got off track. But I figure it's not up to me to tell others when if they are interested, can figure it out for themselves.
  22. Brendan Caron from vancouver, Canada writes: Fortunately this board is short. There are others that are extremely long, tedious and filled with superfluous comments written by the same people that allege that Canadians are racists and inhuman.

    Thanks for your response.
  23. THE BARNSWALLOW from Canada writes:

    I neither implied belief, nor unbelief. I never mentioned the name of any book. All I said was that it seems uncanny, given that the words were written at a time when no one, in their wildest imagination, could have seriously believed that any problem could ever be world-wide, nor that there would ever be a time when anyone could have the faintest idea of what was going on all over the world. Or that the world could ever come together to tackle any problem.

    But the recent rash of natural and man-made disasters, along with problems we're seeing certainly look like they require world-wide responses, including what happened in China.

    So let's stop criticizing each other just because we MAY have varying ideas, face facts, think about it objectively, and get to it.

    People need our help!
  24. Blue Spruce from Canada writes:

    I agree with the Barnswallow - it seems that whenever anyone comes even within 10 feet of touching on faith, especially of the JC variety, there are lots of venomous comments - like people are filled with hatred for anyone basing their world-view at all on an ancient code of ethics.

    What's with that?
  25. White Jade from Ireland writes: Brendan the Carrion from vancouver, Canada writes: Fortunately this board is short....

    There are others that are extremely long, tedious and filled with superfluous comments (all, read the Carrion's comments in all the China posts) written by the same people that allege that Chinese-Canadians are shills and disloyal.
  26. Pamphleteer . from Canada writes: THE BARNSWALLOW: Good grief man, you were talking about the Bible, in particular the Book of Revelation. You know it, everyone here knows it.

    The gloom and doom described in the Book isn't uncanny at all. In literature throughout the ages, humans have always been fearing the end of world. Revelation presents an interesting story of how it could all play out, but it is merely one of many apocalyptic visions floating around out there.
  27. White Jade from Ireland writes: This article is about the quake aftershocks in China and you wing-nuts are having a religious debate about the Bible's prophesies?
  28. Mrs. Doubtfire from Canada writes:

    The Pamphleteer goes into strong defensive mode - happens all the time.

    Never admit you're bigoted, man!
  29. Brendan Caron from vancouver, Canada writes: I am a Buddhist and I firmly believe that if you don't believe in a higher power then you are doomed until you do recognize that there are things that defy our imaginations and estimations of how the world is. I, also, believe that were Buddha and Christ contemporaries Buddha would be a Christian. Truth belongs to everyone. Not the select few. God is Real. You may not be in touch but that is your problem. There have been too many instances in life that have shown me that there is something stronger than myself in the universe. Truth is the first thing that comes to mind when speaking of God. If you want to talk about jc then enjoy. The bozos that think that they can impugn God will get their comeuppance. Push your beliefs and don't let the nay sayers take the wind out of your sails. They are only jealous.
  30. James C from Shenzhen, China writes: belief in higher powers, faith, religion.... are all fine. too bad many canadians dont have the "tolerance" to accept that.
  31. tulip7 R from woodbridge, Canada writes: TO A Civil Shine from Toronto, Canada writes:

    You are such an uncivil dim. You sound like have a sick satisfaction on this. What a shame!
  32. Pamphleteer . from Canada writes: Brendan Caron: Just because one doesn't believe in the nonsence written in the Bible, it doesn't follow that one doesn't believe in God or some higher being...
  33. Mrs. Doubtfire from Canada writes:

    There, time to relax now. Too often, people post without much knowledge. Pamphleteer's reference to Revelation - WRONG! There's nothing in there about one-world gov't.

    But bigoted folks don't check first, they just shrilly shout out their venom. It comes with the territory.

    Time to forgive and forget.
  34. M. S From Edmonton from Canada writes: Yvonne Wackernagel from Woodville, Canada writes: It is at a time like this when we read of these terrible disasters in the world that we should be extremely thankful that our troubles are so minor in comparison. It should remind us all to count our blessings and to remember that these people nor their Government brought on this disaster.
    ----
    Really ? Im sure Rev. Hagee (supported of McCain) would have a different view.. Just like Katrina was due to the gay pride, or the Holocaust was God's doing to bring the ***s to the promise land.. this too might be God's work towards communism ?
  35. Pamphleteer . from Canada writes: Mrs. Doubtfire: Finish your grade 4 reading homework, then come back and post. Nowhere did I say anything about a one world government being mentioned in Revelation.
  36. Iain's Opinion from Canada writes: Geeze guys, take your mystic mubo jumbo elsewhere.
  37. Liu Yunshan from China writes: Chinese citizens are rejecting propaganda and demanding good information. See this report on the in-China debate on media freedom:
    http://cmp.hku.hk/2008/06/09/1058/

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