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You can lose your mind trying to figure out exactly how much you'll have to pay to use the iPhone 3G.
Just try to make sense of the rate plans Rogers Wireless announced this morning in any of the several place debate has broken out — Engadget, Facebook or MacRumors Forums. There is even an online petition, but it seems to be made in a pure rage and has an unnecessarily offensive address.
The confusion is intentional. Marketing people say they're tailoring their complex plans to their markets, and they may be right. But don't kid yourself: It works to their disadvantage if customers know precisely how much they will have to pay. As a result, you can't say an iPhone costs $90 a month to use it, while in the United States it costs $60 to use it. It just doesn't work that way.
That would make it too simple. And there's nothing so malleable as confused shoppers, because confused shoppers will at some point throw up their arms and let their emotions take control. And an emotional purchase can often get you in way over your head.
Which is the whole point. I mean, can any people out there tell you off the top of their heads exactly how many gigabytes they download on their phones each month? Could they even make an educated guess?
If you read the online chatter about Rogers, you'll see how people are floundering around trying to sort out whether Rogers is lowering its rates or keeping them high. There's a general consensus that the Canadian rates are still very high, but once you introduce variable factors such as personal telephone and SMS use, comparisons become difficult to make.
And that's particularly true of browsing. The way the Internet works, it's impossible to know how much data you're using (in fact, Rogers makes certain you don't know until your bill comes in) and even more difficult than impossible to guess in advance how much you will be using, meaning you have no idea whatsoever what you're signing up for.
But let's see what we can do. We'll just look at voice and data plans, and drop the SMS texting charges. Rogers and Fido have four plans:
- $60 a month with 150 minutes and unlimited evenings and weekends, 400 MB Data;
- $75 a month with 300 minutes and unlimited evenings and weekends, 750 MB Data;
- $100 a month, 600 minutes and unlimited evenings and weekends, 1 GB Data;
- $115 a month, 800 minutes and unlimited evenings and weekends, 2 GB Data.
The first thing we notice is that none of Rogers' plans offers unlimited data rates. Rogers' iPhone plans seem to be alone in the world in this respect. That's our first clue that these plans are unfair — if only because we have no idea just how much data we will use over the life of the plan, and can therefore not make an informed decision. And that leads us to the second thing we notice: All Rogers' plans are for a minimum of three years, and I know one thing for sure: I have no understanding of how much data I need now, much less how much data I will be needing over the next three years, or even if my usage will increase or decrease during that time.
In short, we're being asked to buy a pig in a poke.
In the same way I hate estimating how many minutes I will want to use for voice-calls on a phone, although that seems to be a little easier to guess.
How does Rogers stack up against the rest of the world? In the following examples, I have cited the U.S. dollar as equivalent to the Canadian dollar, and rounded off the Canadian equivalent of the Euro to the nearest dollar for simplicity's sake.
In the United States, AT&T's approach is to split data and voice plans into two separate packages, with unlimited iPhone 3G data plans available for $30 a month, and voice plans starting at $39.99 a month, for a total of about $79.99 a month.
AT&T says its iPhone 3G data plan gives you unlimited data ... although the word “unlimited” has lost all its meaning after the service providers got through with it. Not exactly unlimited, but then it's separated from the voice plan.
And here's something I have no idea how to compare with Rogers' plans: AT&T asks existing iPhone and new iPhone 3G customers to sign a minimum two-year contract, while Rogers is asking for a three-year contract. Only your usage will determine what that comes out to, and what the rates will be like two years after you sign with AT&T, or whether your usage habits change.
AT&T's monthly data cost is $60, which includes as much data as you want, unless it comes from Canada, in which case you pay $0.015 per kilobyte over 5 GB, or from international sources, and for that you pay $0.0195 per kilobyte over 5 GB.
In Britain, the O2 service provider offers four plans:
- ₤30 ($60), you get 75 minutes of voice calls and unlimited data and Wi-Fi;
- ₤35 ($70), 600 minutes of voice calls and unlimited data and Wi-Fi;
- ₤45 ($90), 1200 minutes voice calling and unlimited data and Wi-Fi;
- ₤75 ($150), 3,000 minutes voice calling and unlimited data and Wi-Fi.
In you really want to bend your mind, try to factor in a special gimmick offered by the German service provider T-Mobile, which is to offer the iPhone 3G for €1 ($1.60) if you sign on for the provider's most expensive plan, which is €89 ($142) a month. On the other hand, these rates were set for the original iPhone and T-Mobile has said it won't change them for the iPhone 3G.
In France, service provider Orange is offering five plans, all of them offering unlimited monthly e-mail and browsing:
- €49 ($78) for two hours talk time and two hours of late evening and weekend talk;
- €59 ($94) for three hours talk time and three hours of late evening and weekend talk;
- €79 ($126) for five hours talk time and five hours of late evening and weekend talk;
- €119 ($190) for eight hours talk time and eight hours of late evening and weekend talk;
- €149 ($237) for 12 hours talk time and 12 hours of late evening and weekend talk
Perhaps someone more able than I can crunch these numbers to make sense of them, but from my quick glance I like O2's plans best. But that's assuming I'd be paying those rates while I surf as most Canadians do, which I suspect involves a lot more data transfer than the average European or Briton requires.
Ultimately, I'd prefer any plan that gives me unlimited (if it's really unlimited) data so I could see what the service provider is asking for voice calls. Even then, since Apple decided to give monopoly distributorships to each country, there's nothing to compare the prices to: You couldn't compare any of these plans to any other 3G phone simply because the iPhone is simply a data hog, unlike other phones, such as the new Samsung Instinct or the upcoming BlackBerry 9000.
And how much of a data hog is it? From my reading, I know that it relies on an almost constant stream of data chatter between the iPhone and Apple for such things as software updates.
And I frankly wouldn't even know how to measure that.
(Thanks for tips sent in by several readers, especially Taylor Agnew.)
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ruffdeezy http://www.iphoneuser.ca from Vancouver, Canada writes: The iPhone has a built in data counter.
- Posted 27/06/08 at 4:23 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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john doe from Calgary, Canada writes: Unfortunately you forgot the cost for caller id at $15/month, oh and that friendly $7 system access fee.
And while we are at it evenings in Ted Rogers world do not start until 9pm, so let's call it what it is and restate the plan as unlimited weekends, so we now have:
$82 a month with 150 minutes and unlimited weekends, 400 MB Data;
$97 a month with 300 minutes and unlimited weekends, 750 MB Data;
$122 a month, 600 minutes and unlimited weekends, 1 GB Data;
$137 a month, 800 minutes and unlimited weekends, 2 GB Data.
yours truly,
still iphone-less in Canada- Posted 27/06/08 at 4:44 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Joey Tavares from Toronto, Canada writes: I'm a MAC user, and will continue to be while I'm in school, but frankly, I'm getting a little sick and tired of the company's lack of interoperability, and exclusivity.
When a system like Skype allows international calling, all over the world, for a fraction of the cost of cell lines and land lines, one has to wonder (and I mean all over the world) who are these corporations kidding?
And Apple is NOT helping with monopolizing its products.
I'm tired of being the middle class consumer bilked by the rich yet AGAIN for profit. It is just unreal that I can send an unlimited amount of free emails ANYWHERE included in my monthly internet costs, but these phone companies expect me to pay LONG DISTANCE charges?
On a cell phone. Long Distance. Un REAL.
No more Apple for me, and as little bilking as I can get. I got in on FIDOs City Fido years ago, and have kept my contract (and my monthly flat rate) for years now.
Rogers, Bell, carriers and their hardware producers - all the same.
The clock is ticking - the Age of the Aware Consumer is upon us, and the bilkers should all be quaking in their boots.
Party's over boyzz.- Posted 27/06/08 at 5:11 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Peter Harrison from Canada writes: So let me get this right. AT&T lets its users have unlimited data access in the US and up to 5GB of data while roaming in Canada for $30 a month, while Rogers charges $137 a month for 2GB in Canada only. I guess I'm going down to the US to pick up my iPhone....
- Posted 27/06/08 at 5:35 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Jim Courtney from Mississauga, Ontario, Canada writes: How to cut down on Rogers data usage: Recall the iPhone includes WiFi support. And the plan mentioned unlimited use on the Canadian HotSpot (WiFi) Network. Put a WiFi access point in your home and your workplace. You can certainly cut down on your Rogers network usage by maximizing use in these zones (especially at home).
After a few months with a WiFi-enable smartphone I have learnt to only download programs and other data intensive content while at home or in an accessible WiFi zone. When using map programs, such as Google Maps, download your directions while at home or in a WiFi zone, then you don't have to download those same maps while traveling the route. You'll learn other tips as well.
But nobody has mentioned what the iPhone's WiFi support other than the one mention above about the data plans including unlimited use in Canadian Hotspot network locations.
P.S. -- I'm sticking with my Blackberry! Just got a reasonable data plan for it under Rogers' new Blackberry BIS data plans.
And I do agree with the comments that MB/GB caps mean nothing to the average user. At a minimum Rogers Wireless should at least do as they do with their Internet services -- providing warning emails when you hit 75% and 100% of your monthly cap. (Of course they means lots to those at Rogers who have ARPU in their goals.)- Posted 27/06/08 at 5:38 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Road Warrior from Toronto, Canada writes: Great article. Now the question for all us Blackberry users is why hasn't Rogers increased the data bucket equally for Blackberry. The iphone, which will eat way more spectrum compared to Blackberry is getting a massively subsidized price per MB and Rogers is using the profitability of Blackberry users to pay for it. Why should I have to pay more per MB for BlackBerry? This fact may be lost on consumers but I suspect a lot of purchasing managers at businesses like mine are going to be pretty upset to learn that they are paying more per MB for their Blackberries in order for Rogers to subsidize the data-hungry iphone. It's like trying to charge hybrid owners more per litre of gas than SUV owners. It makes no sense from a customer perspective.
- Posted 27/06/08 at 6:00 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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michael monchamp from wpg, Canada writes: I'm a blackberry user and i'm mad as hell with the crappy data plans we have. plaease will some company provide some sanity to canada's cell market, hint hint, Shaw?
- Posted 27/06/08 at 6:54 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Enzo Matrix from Penticton, Canada writes: This is simply ridiculous? With those rate, nobody with a IQ higher then 10 whould buy a iPhone (it is overprice, over hyper and of very poor quality, like ALL apple products). And the Data rare does not make sense: Canada is the most expensive place in the world (make that the universe) to use a Cel phone and this just have to stop!!! Rogers (and ALL the other cell phone provider) are STEALING money from user in a captive market that is clearly plague with price fixing.
In other word: you own a iPhone in Canada your are an idiot.- Posted 27/06/08 at 6:56 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Ryan Barrett from Hamilton, Canada writes: I think the Blackberry rates are just as absurd. No, we don't have a huge customer base, and our distances are greater, which seems to be a factor in infrastructure costs, but what sets us Canadians apart is that lately we just seem to be pushovers and foolish consumers. Maybe we will do exactly what Rogers expects and create a few online petitions, some facebook groups, announce in forums "Rogers, you have lost a loyal customer", or post copies of letters to Ted Rogers himself to do one's part in fighting for the consumer. Ten other people will be waiting at the Rogers store, asking if they can transfer the ringtones they downloaded, for which they have already paid data transfer fees, download fees, monthly subscription... I don't mind hearing that consumers are paying for luxuries like wireless communication; I do find it appalling that many of these Canadian consumers are misinformed, misled, misguided to spend all the money they have -- and that some of these consumers can't afford healthy food because there are only a handful of bakeries or small markets left in places like Hamilton. This is denial. In other countries we would be in the streets, turning over the cobblestones, lighting cars on fire, laying down in the road, storming the offices. Let's just talk more about it. That will fix everything.
- Posted 27/06/08 at 7:04 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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P Martin from St. John's, Canada writes: I will never purchase the iPhone at these disgusting prices. I had been hoping that Rogers would get a clue but I should have known better. There are no worse rates in the world.
- Posted 27/06/08 at 8:11 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Rob Jennings from Edmonton, Canada writes: I just want to point out to the author that the iPhone 3G is no more of a data hog than any other Internet-enabled phone. It's data use is contingent on the user and the applications the user decides to run, just like the Samsung Instinct and BlackBerry. Your comment regarding software updates is also incorrect. Software updates are downloaded on your computer through iTunes and applied by docking the iPhone. That said, the iPhone is designed to encourage data use and it's very disappointing that Rogers has chosen to cripple the iPhone, and every other data-centric device on its network, with such out-of-touch plans.
- Posted 27/06/08 at 9:21 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Jim Courtney from Mississauga, Ontario, Canada writes: @Road Warrior: Rogers introduced new plans for Blackberry this past Monday; they can be seen on the Rogers site (Wireless Business pages). But only for those using Blackberry on BIS. Just changed today from $60 for 25MB to $30 for 300MB. Larger caps are available but since I never reached my 25MB (partially due to WiFi on mine), 300MB may be enough (until I upgrade to a 3G device).
- Posted 27/06/08 at 9:28 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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George Fedrigo from Etobicoke, Canada writes: I've been using my 16gb iPhone for the last 3 months and love it, however, the data packages in this country SUCK! I have mine shut-off permanently on the Rogers side and use the wi-fi extensively wherever I am. The phone is worth everything I paid for it due to the awesome graphics and the very interactive phone features! My wife even likes it, that's no easy feat. My last 2 phones always muted out or hung up because my cheek inadvertently pressed some button. I guess I'll keep mine a little longer.
- Posted 27/06/08 at 10:03 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Gerry Daman from Vancouver, Canada writes: Rogers made a fatal calculation in this iPhone 3G pricing. They should've went cheaper to have so many other people come over from Bell/Telus to join just for the iPhone. You've messed up big time, Rogers.
Nobody in their right mind is stupid enough to pay for your ridiculous plans. Every internet forum right now has people steaming mad. Well done!!!
Check www.iphoneincanada.ca for up to date iPhone news and Forums.- Posted 27/06/08 at 10:10 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Tim G from Toronto, Canada writes: I'll be waiting for the Nokia e71 or even the HTC Diamond...Rogers/Fido blows it again! Why do we in Canada have the be so behind the curve with bleeding edge technology???
- Posted 27/06/08 at 10:27 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Amguada Kickboote from The Sewage Treatment Plant, Canada writes: I wonder why they cost so much here versus the USA. Also why do cars cost so much here compared to the USA?
We have less to spend than people in the USA, because we get paid less for the same jobs and pay way more in income tax. So we have even less disposable income to begin with, so with less we have to pay more?
Does that mean our standard of living is much lower?
Is is it due to our socialist system?
Why?- Posted 28/06/08 at 12:44 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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biggar thomas from Guelph, Canada writes: I work for a large institution and understand from our Rogers rep that there is a huge waiting list from my organisation for the iPhone. I will not kid you, I want one too. What I am going to do next Wednesday, when I get back to work, is that I am going to speak with my boss and with the IT people. I want my institution to refuse to pay Roger for the iPhone for employees unless they give u a better deal on the data plan. Thi is nothing short of gouging and I am not going to stand for it!!
- Posted 28/06/08 at 1:04 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Alexander Slimnich from Canada writes: I hoped that Rogers would have reasonable data rates, but I feared and suspected they'd probably try to screw Canadians over yet again..
and boy was I right.
I was ready to plop down the $200 and commit to a 3 year contract to get an iPhone.. but not at these rates!- Posted 28/06/08 at 1:16 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Paul Lloyd Johnson from Canterbury, United Kingdom writes: I don't understand why you assume that European users would use less data than Canadians? We're quite tech savvy over here, we've had 3G networks for about 5 years. most people use SMS, MMS and email and I don't know anyone without a phone, even my 10 year old niece.
I'd like to add that caller ID is free as standard. We would never pay for it, just like we would never pay for incoming calls or messages.
Really the Canadian consumer is to blame here, I'm afraid. They need to look outside at how the rest of the world charge for mobile phone use and demand better from the likes of Rogers.
Unfortunately for me, when I move to Canada next year, I'll be leaving my great value O2 talk plan behind and I just hope that consumer pressure has driven Rogers talk plans down.- Posted 28/06/08 at 6:34 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Mike Wells from Toronto, Canada writes: Rogers still to this date refuses to acknowledge that it's rates are over inflated and their new iPhone rates are a prime example.
These rates don't make sense. Why should one piece of hardware like the iPhone differ from the Blackberry device in plans? You're not forced to purchase a voice and data plan when you upgrade or buy a Blackberry.
It doesn't make any business sense to piss of your customer by posting rates that are out of sync with the rest of the developed world either.
RIM has their nose into these rates. Think about it; why would Rogers change the BB rates to a much lower lower than the iPhone? The new BB data rates is $30 for 400MB and goes up to $100 for 6GIG!!! Blackberry devices (even the new BOLD) can't use that much data in one month yet Rogers offers these new rates for Blackberry users who rarely surpass 30mb a month.
As for the iPhone rates/plans they just don't add up. These plans already offer up to 300 free text messages but you'll obviously need the "Value Packs" for call display and all the other crap attached to the extra $15 and $20 value packs. So why does Rogers throw in even more free text messages - 10,000 more text messages when 300 will do for most people that can afford such price plans in the first place? Doesn't 10,000 text messages (sent not received) use up data anyway?
I was going to buy the iPhone but not now.- Posted 28/06/08 at 7:22 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Ben Lawson from Toronto, writes: Surprise, surprise, another exploitive pricing structure from Rogers! I've been following Apple's new iPhone with much anticipation, but the depth that Rogers wants to sink its fingers into my wallet takes my breath away! Because Rogers is the only GSM service provider in Canada consumers interested in the iPhone have only one choice: Rogers' way or the highway. Nothing like an de-facto monopoly, eh?
Here are my objections to Rogers iPhone plans:
- Insultingly low included minutes, with a farcical 9PM "evening" start.
- Insultingly low included data, with no practical way to know if you've exceeded the cap.
- Insultingly long contract.
Of course we are all forced to pay the mythical $7 "system access fee", and pay again for services like call display and text messages that are essentially free to Rogers.
I think I may just grit my teeth and wait for a GSM competitor to appear in the market. Too bad that's probably years away. Until then, I'll do what I can to minimize the transfer of my cash to Rogers' wallet.- Posted 28/06/08 at 8:18 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Mike Wells from Toronto, Canada writes: Rogers has a telephone number where you can call the Office of the President to voice your concerns. Voice your opinion to the right people and let them know you mean business.
The person to contact is called "Eddie" and he works at the Office of the President of Rogers Wireless.
416-446-6792 and leave a message telling him how you feel about the new iPhone rates and how out of touch they are. Tell him that lowered rates would not only make you want to sign up for their 3 year year contract but also have Bell and Telus subscribers leave for the new iPhone.- Posted 28/06/08 at 8:30 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Robert F from Canada writes: If Kapica thinks it's a bit difficult for users to figure out pricing from the Rogers plan it's even more difficult from Kapica's article since, apparently, he can't keep his own numbers straight. In one sentence he talks about $30 and $39.99 adding up to $79.99. Not the last time I went to school it didn't.
What Kapica also doesn't talk about, and no one has yet as far as I can see, is what the actual phone will cost. How much do you pay for the phone when you sign up for the 3 year package? How much do you pay for the device from the other providers cited in the article? If the cost of the device is, say, $50 from Rogers but $150 from AT&T, that makes a difference.
Many of these devices also do have built in data counters (as another respondent noted the iPhone does). I use a wireless air card on my laptop on a Rogers plan and I know exactly how much data throughput I have any time I'm using the card.
What hasn't been covered by either the Rogers announcement or Kapica's piece is what roaming charges will be for data. If you plan to use the device on the road a lot, particularly outside of Canada that's an important item. I found out the hard way that roaming charges for my air card are $.05/kb - yes per KILObyte.
This piece seems more of a rant against Rogers than an exercise in really trying to inform and educate consumers and users of the device. It's sloppy and incomplete. Nothing unusual there coming from Kapica.- Posted 28/06/08 at 9:20 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Steve C from WP, Canada writes: The plans are a little ridicules. $60/month for 150 daytime plus evening and weekend (daytime minute are from 7am-9pm now?????) and 400 megs of data. The rates if you go over your usage are pretty bad as well. 50 cents per meg for the first 60 megs and 35 cents per minute over the 150. Even if you don't go over your limits, after the access fee and caller id, early calling, and tax, it will be around $110 per month for their cheapest package. That's insane. The only thing you seem to get is unlimited access to rogers and fido hotspots but that is pretty vague. Does that mean you have unlimited bandwidth or just that they allow you to surf on them? Is should be that you can download as much as you want but I wouldn't be surprised if it ate into your data limit even though it's actually another service.
- Posted 28/06/08 at 9:45 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Joshua er from Canada writes: It would be much simpler if new iphone users were able add one of the new DSP (flex plan etc) on to their exisiting voice plans and signing a new 3 yr contract. Treat the iphone as another hardware upgrade etc. introducing its own plans can get a little confusing.
Right now i have 250 regular minutes unlimited evenings (6pm) and weekends for 23 dollars plust saf, tax etc. I have a blackberry so I have the 30/300 mb plan. I pay around 60 after all taxes and fees. But to get the equivalent I would be paying 60 20(value pack 2) saf taxes i would be paying 100 dollars.
Gonna stick with my curve- Posted 28/06/08 at 10:27 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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M C from Canada writes: It is not surprising why it took so long for the iPhone to come to Canada now that we see the "exclusive" iPhone plan. Keep in mind that you are locked in for 3 years, paying $199- $299 for the iPhone and pray that you aren't over on the data usage. Good luck. This is like having a Porsche and only allowed to drive for the first 10km at a speed you want and after that, you'll be penalized for the rest until next month.
Obviously, it looks like the it was Rogers who was holding off and who eventually won. There's no unlimited data plan, even at $115 a month, you'd think that the unlimited plan could be had. No. Can we get more confirmation that we need more competition in Canada, namely another GSM carrier that Rogers can't swallow? Come on wireless spectrum! Don't let me down!- Posted 28/06/08 at 2:05 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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David McCristall from Vancouver, writes: One really important thing to remember when comparing plans to other carriers on a global scale it is important to remember that other carriers usually include INCOMING Calls for free. Something that we don't enjoy in North America. They also often include free calls within their carrier networks. I can't imagine paying the outrageous rates Rogers is asking.
- Posted 29/06/08 at 3:39 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Phil Cassell from North Bay, Canada writes: The issue here is that the iPhone will not be able to be used at its full potential, which is something I still dont see being addressed. Let me break down the 3 biggest factors that contribute to data usage and comes standard with the iPhone
1 - GPS
2 - YouTube
3 - iTunes
Each song from iTunes is roughly 3mb and that doesn't include browsing for the song and sampling the 30secs. YouTube has videos that run upwards of 10mins; once again heavy data usage. Lastly, the GPS; I guess we can't rely on using the iPhone as our main GPS while traveling.
I ran the Facebook test on an unlocked iPhone and Main Page 1 Profile page = 1.7mb and that is with custom iPhone Facebook page. Other then being angry, it is frustrating as a consumer that one of the greatest releases of personal technology in Canada is overshadowed by greed.- Posted 29/06/08 at 12:21 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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David Beck from Toronto, writes: How much data will you use? Well if you ask Rogers, they will proudly say 400MB of data will let you visit 3100 web pages a month, which works out to be over 100 pages a day. This number is either a bold face lie, or they simply have no idea what they are actually selling. 400MB divided over the month is roughly 13.333MB (13653 kB) per day. The average profile page on the popular Facebook site is roughly 1.2MB to 1.7MB in size. The Globe and Mail home page is 847.60 KB, the Weather Network is 572.616 KB, and the celebrity gossip site TMZ is 1 032.76 KB. And don't even think about visiting NASA.com, which weighs in at a hefty 1 925.258 KB. So while on your coffee break you decide to check 8 Facebook pages, The Globe and Mail home page, followed by the weather.. congratulations you have technically gone over your daily limit by simply viewing 10 pages.. assuming you did this everyday. Wait! What happened to Rogers claim of 3100 pages or over 100 pages a day? I don't know, maybe you should ask them. What I do know is anyone crazy enough to pick up the iphone with Rogers lowest plan, will be in for the shock of their life if they choose to visit silly sites like the news, weather, facebook or even TMZ. I feel pity for those who are addicted to sites like youtube or occasionally like to check in with NASA to see if they have discovered aliens yet. These poor souls will have to take out a second mortgage!
- Posted 29/06/08 at 5:25 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Doug McKenzie from writes: Why isn't there any offering of an iPhone on Roger's 'business' site? Isn't this version designed for the Enterprise user? This omission leads me to believe they are waiting for the big flood of consumers to buy up the initial supply THEN quietly come back to the business market and quietly provide options on outright purchase / flex plans etc. etc. Calling a Rogers business rep confirms the fact they have noting (yet) to offer and are getting hammered by existing customers looking for the iphone. This isn't over and I'm going to wait a while as my Bell contract ticks down.
- Posted 30/06/08 at 5:26 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Catch 22 from Cyberspace Ontario, Canada writes: A lot of brainpower is being focussed on the iPhone issue. Actually, every cellular carrier keeps a near-realtime box score of minutes and megabytes used for each individual customer. There is no other practical way to assemble the sheer volume of usage information for billing. This raw usage information usually isn't made available to customers until it is allocated to "buckets" (free minutes and megabytes plus overages, less discounts, etc.) and presented in a bill. New customers should be on an unlimited flat rate for 90 days to allow them to pick the plan that they ultimately want, and then allowed to modify their plan annually.
- Posted 30/06/08 at 6:26 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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R Rishikesh from Waterloo, Canada writes: The big brother (government) protects our telecom companies. Let the foreign companies come. I would love to see Verizon or AT&T or some Indian or Chinese telecom company come and provide lower cost services. If Rogers or Telus go belly up, then so be it. They should not be protected by the government.
- Posted 01/07/08 at 2:51 PM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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