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Dalai Lama must renounce Tibetan freedom: China

ANITA CHANG

Associated Press

Latest comment posted at 9:32 AM EDT 05/07/08

Beijing's position unchanged toward the Dalai Lama, who is frequently demonized by the Communist leadership. ...Read the full article

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  1. Springfire de Shang Shung from Mongolia writes: Just a reminder to those who hijack this forum to preach foreign, ultra-nationalist and ethnocentric extremism, under Section 319(1) of the Criminal Code of Canada, anyone who communicates statements in a public place and thereby incites hatred against an identifiable group where such incitement leads to a breach of the peace is guilty of an indictable offence punishable by two years' imprisonment or a summary conviction offence.
  2. Winston Smith from Canada writes: It seems the Communist Party (only communist in name today) is facing heat themselves for corrupt practices in the eyes of its own citizens. The Tibetan riots/DL and Olympic are being used as a distraction to stir up nationalism. These guys better get their act together before the people snap.
  3. Jack Cunningham from Raincouver, Canada writes: What's next CCP? Renounce he is the leader of Tibetan people?

    "Talks later in the year" - who's buying that? Typical CCP tactics to make sure they are not pressured into anything before Olympics.
  4. Liu Yunshan from China writes: Confusing. The DL has already met the conditions as reported by Xinhua. So, what is China doing to improve the situation - still nothing?
  5. Negy H from Toronto, Canada writes: China has governed Tibet since communist troops marched into the Himalayan region in the 1950s. The Dalai Lama, who fled to India amid a failed uprising in 1959, has said he wants some form of autonomy that would allow Tibetans to freely practice their culture, language and religion.
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    DL always says 'their culture, language and religion'. So, what exact they are? What's the difference between the life style before 1950 and after 1950? What's the human rights record when DL was in charge before 1959?
  6. White Jade from Ireland writes: Springfire de Shang Shung from Mongolia writes: Just a reminder to those who hijack this forum to preach foreign, ultra-nationalist and ethnocentric extremism,

    Section 319 goes on to state the following. Defences
    (3) No person shall be convicted of an offence under subsection (2)
    (d) if, in good faith, he intended to point out, for the purpose of removal, matters producing or tending to produce feelings of hatred toward an identifiable group in Canada.

    Just a reminder to those who hijack this forum to promote hate against an identifiable visible minority - heed your own advice Springfire and friends.
  7. Fair Justville from toronto, Canada writes: "China has governed Tibet since communist troops marched into the Himalayan region in the 1950s. "

    This statement is very mis-leading. CCP has governed Tibet since 1950s. but Tibet has been governed by China for hundreds of years...
  8. Springfire de Shang Shung from Mongolia writes: White Jade: Glad you are familiarizing yourself with human rights protection, the cumulative evidence of viscous racist and obscene threats against Tibetans and their supporters is overwhelming. I earlier this spring challenged Chinese ultra-nationalists to distance themselves or denounce such cyber-terrorism...the response was underwhelming and pitiful. So who is really needs to reflect a little more carefully when commenting on areas they are poorly qualified to opine on? 'Fair Justville' for one.
  9. Fair Justville from toronto, Canada writes: Springfire de Shang Shung from Mongolia,

    Human rights 101, respect others and be tolerant of differences. don't forget the law you poinited out earlier. if you don't behave, you will be punished too.
  10. F H from Canada writes: So, Springfire, I guess you're in trouble, what with all the hate you regularily spread.
  11. Springfire de Shang Shung from Mongolia writes: F H: Name one instance I spread hatred, I'll give you one hundred from you lot. I only hate falsified revisionist 'history' of Asia. Remember, the International Commission of Jurists concluded that (before invasion in 1950) 'for all intents, Tibet functioned as a fully sovereign nation' That, my friend, is not spreading hatred just because you were indoctrinated differently. An open-minded person will consider a range of viewpoints on any topic, and form their own informed opinions, not argue first and try to pull up dubious, unsupported or unreferenced factoids to support their position.
  12. Joe Straw from Canada writes: The title of this article is a pure distortion.
  13. Fair Justville from toronto, Canada writes: under CCP, Tibetans have as much freedom as other ordinary Chinese citizens.

    under Dalai Lama, 95% of tibetans were slaves. relatives and friends of Dalai Lama control all of the important posts in the exile government.
  14. Springfire de Shang Shung from Mongolia writes: Fair Justville: "Under CCP", your wording betrays the lack of freedom, imprisonment and torture of 'dissents': that is those who bravely speak their mind. Look up Amnesty International or Human Rights Watch, there is plenty of evidence of abuses. All this feudal torture garbage was idiotic propaganda from the Cultural Revolution era. What do you terracotta warriors consist of? Anything other than mud? Lets see a little human empathy for earthquake victims, Burma, Tibet, Sudan, Zimbabwe and tell your government controlled media to take a hike we're not that gullible to eat it all.
  15. F H from Canada writes: "Fair Justville from toronto, Canada writes: under CCP, Tibetans have as much freedom as other ordinary Chinese citizens."

    Here's the thing though, they're NOT Chinese citizens.
  16. F H from Canada writes: Springfire, I owe you an apology after reading your comments regarding this article. It does seem you've learned some new things since posts you've made in the past and that's to be commended.
  17. Springfire de Shang Shung from Mongolia writes: Don't confuse me with the original Springfire, I took his name to put him out of business permanently. Since then he has used several names and even poses as more than one at a time, the sick puppy.
  18. P cheng from ottawa, Canada writes: It is so funny that people want to keep change their name.
  19. Fair Justville from Canada writes: "F H from Canada writes: "Fair Justville from toronto, Canada writes: under CCP, Tibetans have as much freedom as other ordinary Chinese citizens."

    Here's the thing though, they're NOT Chinese citizens. "

    FH, you appear extremely ignorant with the above comment. Chinese means 56 peoples living in China. Tibetans are just one of them. Please learn some real history before drawing any conclusions here.
  20. Springfire de Shang Shung from Mongolia writes: Fair Justville: Think before you type, lad. 56 peoples? You underestimate the diversity of the Motherland, planet earth.
  21. L Chang from Ontario, Canada writes: To Springfire de Shang Shung from Mongolia: Old Springfire probably did not know you are an admirer naming after him. Keep learning and you may be able to stand up on your own one day.
  22. P cheng from ottawa, Canada writes: L Chang from Ontario, Canada writes: He is not a new friend but an old friend that you always talked to. The first comment was deleted yesterday when the poster asked question related to DL on Dorjee Shugden. The comment was deleted and we get this Criminal Code of Canada.
  23. Springfire de Shang Shung from Mongolia writes: Taking someone's name is such a low act and is no different from censorship. Maybe he's not the sick puppy. He deserves an apology.

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