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CAMPBELL CLARK

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Latest comment posted at 10:24 AM EST 06/07/08

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  1. stephen ottridge from vancouver, Canada writes: The threat that the 2010 World soccer championship will be removed from South Africa unless SA stabilises and reverses the situation in Zimbabwe should prompt Mbeki to really get involved. Without real intervention the Zimbabwe situation will worsen and there will be millions of Zimbabweans in South Africa without jobs causing crime and trouble.
  2. Yvonne Wackernagel from Woodville, Canada writes: 'Many western countries say only a government led by Mr. Tsvangirai would be legitimate.'

    Harper, with Germany, two of Britain's allies, are pushing for Britain, instead of allowing the African countries to sort themselves out. China is waiting to help South Africa (in a QUIET way) instead of bulldozing the people. THERE ARE REASONS why the British (and its allies) are being rejected. 'Help under the gun of our conditions', or else! Well, those tactics will not work these days and they will have to resort to the American (and Israeli) way of 'starving the people out, and they are quite capable of doing that. The time has come for rich nations to realize that they cannot continue to take most of the riches from a country and just leave the crumbs which fall from the masters' tables.
  3. William Doyle from Prince George, Canada writes: I commend PM Harper in his stand on Zimbabwe and democratic rights in that country .

    Is he also going to find the backbone to take on bush on his human rights record in Guantanamo Bay as well as demanding the immediate return of Mr Khadr from the bush Gulag.

    Human rights are very important whether it is in North Korea, China, Zimbabwe, USA or Guantanamo Bay.
  4. Stude Ham from Outremont, Canada writes:
    harper's comments about quebec city probably had more effect than his selfrighteous posture on mugabe.

    it sounds like they're afraid to do anyhting becasue mugabe sits on potentially huge mining and petroleum resources from which harper's and gwb's friends could profit immeasurably.
  5. Brian Van Ezel from Ottawa, Canada writes: Vern McPherson from writes:
    Mugabe is easy pickings isn't he ..... the largest target with the least risk for the oracle. ..........

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    Exactly....it is not like he can talk about his environmental plan.
  6. Yvonne Wackernagel from Woodville, Canada writes: And just imagine, DeBoers, a Canadian company is planning a large expansion of its Platinum mine in Zimbabwe! Wow, they must be treating the local miners fairly, would you now think? Maybe, Harper should take a page out of their book .
  7. True North from Canada writes: Was looking for a break from Harper this summer but he is on a photo-op marathon it seems.
  8. The graying pundit from Ottawa, Canada writes: For 30 years nobody cared about Zimbabwe and its violent, unhinged dictator Mugabe. Why suddenly all the fuss? Zimbabwe is an insignificant, little country in a continent hopelessly beset by tribal violence, brutality and depravity. Another 30 years will make no difference. Just the names of the dictators will change.
  9. James C from Shenzhen, China writes: i also applaud PM Harper on his stand on zimbabwe. the sooner mugabe is gone, the sooner zimbabwe can get back on its feet. right now its on the road to imploding and followed by civil war to fight for control of the country.
  10. Karunaratne Jeyatilleke from Ottawa, Canada writes: Yeap, Mugabe shouldn't align with China!!!

    Uncle Bush told us this clearly, 'Either With us or against us'!!!
  11. vincent furnier from Montreal, Canada writes: Sounds like Harper is damned if he does, damned if he doesnt. If he says nothing about Mugabe we hear outcries of 'no one cares about Africa'; if he does speak, then he's an imperialist opportunist who only cares about platininum and petroleum.

    You can't have it both ways.

    I'm no big fan of Harper, but he (and Germany) made the morally right decision here. Mugabe is not 'just another' African dictator: he is one of the most vicious despots the world has seen since Idi Amin. For the sake of the people of Zimbabwe, he needs to be gotten rid of - and if economic imperialism is a motivation for Western powers, then so be it. If there are workable alternatives, then even better.

    For those who can see no alternative leadership for Zimbabwe, Tsangvirai has demonstrated his integrity time and again (read his Wikipedia entry if you are unclear what this man has gone through and sacrificed in the name of democracy). He voluntarily quit an election process to help save the lives of his supporters - i.e. putting his constituents before his own political ambitions. Like Mandela was in South Africa, Tsangvirai is a reason to hope for a better future for Zimbabwe. It is important that other political leaders support him.
  12. CM Chen from Toronto, Canada writes: G8 is primarily a social gathering, get to know the other world leaders type of meeting. Don't expect any major agreement and action plan to come out of this.

    As far as Zimbabwe is concerned, if the AU and South Africa don't wish to take action, what really can the G8 do? UN security council is a joke. It can't even ban Mugabe from traveling, and just left it to individual country to do whatever they can.
  13. Wilf Kruggel from Canada writes: It really does not make sense that China, India and others, are exempt from the climate change protocol. Lets face it, they have the most boyant economies in the world, are, inturn, the biggest poluters, yet they turn their heads the other way, sort of like, we're innocent. Make them a part of this whole spectrum on polution because, collectively, lets face it, they are among the biggest pouters. Ban goods comming from there if compliance is not possible. That issue, alone should put most companies on side. Let's face it, this screwing around has gone on for too long as we are running out of time. Set greed aside and give reality a chance, for a change, Wilf
  14. vincent furnier from Montreal, Canada writes: Correction on spelling: 'Tsvangirai'
  15. CM Chen from Toronto, Canada writes: Morgan Tsvangirai is such a shining beacon. He is trying effect change for his country in a non-violent way. Remind me a bit of the Dalai Lama / Tibet situation.

    PM Harper is continuing to speak out in his support. However it just seem such words are falling on deaf ears. Canada can only do what limited action like travel ban and may be investment ban. Banning humanitarian aid is counter-productive, and wont hurt Mugabe, just his people.
  16. vincent furnier from Montreal, Canada writes: Wilf: I'm with you on the need for climate change control - but banning all goods from India or China if it doesn't happen? It would simply never happen. Look around your house for all the things that say 'made in China' to get some sense of how deeply ingrained the Western and Eastern worlds are economically intertwined.

    Also I don't see any reason why the measures you propose 'should put most companies on side' - not in any general sense. Most companies are for profits first, climate concerns last.

    I'm with you in spirit, just not in method.
  17. CM Chen from Toronto, Canada writes: Wilf Kruggel from Canada writes: It really does not make sense that China, India and others, are exempt from the climate change protocol. ...

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    The Kyoto supporters would have us believe that Western countries action can demonstrate to coutnries like China, that if we take the lead, then they will follow. That is wishful thinking. They will simply act on their national interests. If the West wish to add cost to its produce via environmental penalties, then Chinese products can expand their markets.

    This is not to say the West should not do whatever it can, but to not include the major polluters in a global action, what one will get is a local insignificant result.
  18. J G from Canada writes: Nothing concrete will come out of these meetings except
    'statements' and for Harper just another photo op. Meanwhile the countries will have a huge entourage consuming fuel and money.
  19. Peter Ochodo from Montreal, Canada writes: thanks Mr. Harper. Any effort to Zimbabwe is wonderful.
  20. Hendrick Larose from Canada writes: If you live in Zimbabwe, Harper is raising an important priority. I would think that Global warming is a little lower on the list for these people
  21. Arthur Luscombe from Canada writes: On the other hand, if Harper didn't take this opportunity to condemn Magabe at the G8 meeting, we would be sure to rake him over the coals for not doing so.
  22. David Gibson from Hamilton, Canada writes: Peasants of Zimbabwe, long-suffering, starving, terrorized by their corrupt government, without a functioning economy, have a friend in Stephen Harper, and enemies in the politically-obsessed naysayers on this board. You don't care if every one of them drops dead, you're so pathologically partisan.
  23. J Law from Canada writes: Geriatric Personage from St. Stephen, Canada writes: In many aspects Steve is more despicable and corrupt that Mugabe, who will help us to eliminate Steve?

    'eliminate Steve?' Exactly how do you mean that? Do you mean murder him for no other reasin than he had the audacity to defeat your Liberal party in an election?
  24. Mr. Justice from Canada writes: Question for the G&M: What does 'sumimit' mean in your headline ?

    Just asking.
  25. Kevin Desmoulin from Toronto, Canada writes: Africa needs all the help it can get, I support the Canadian government in pushing this to the fore front, We can not have people like this thug Mugabe making shambles of the democratic process we have developed. It sets a bad precedent and no country is a island everyone. Others may think that this can be done,
    A sham election and thuggery.
    Those times should be long gone.
  26. Randy Hyland from Winnipeg, Canada writes: True North from Canada writes: Was looking for a break from Harper this summer but he is on a photo-op marathon it seems.

    * Posted 06/07/08 at 10:40 AM EDT
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    Thats fine with me. The more I see that lying, unaccountable, Piece of you know what, the more I become determined next election I will vote ABC. Well,not NDP either.

    You can be sure you are going to see his mug a least a couple of times a week all summer long doing his photo ops. The man is so fully of himself he really thinks all Canadians need, is to see or hear from him to convince them to vote Conservative. What a joke.
  27. J Law from Canada writes: Randy Hyland from Winnipeg,

    One minute you're screaming he is in the newspapers too much, the next that he refuses to make himself available to the press. I wish you would make up your mind.
  28. Mr. Justice from Canada writes: Good on Mr. Harper for this. . . . Do the Libbies or the NDP know where Zimbabwe is ? Get a map: GOOD START.

    Then, the Libbies and NDP can work on finding CHINA on a map (Mr. Harper has also criticized that country's government for its human rights policies . . . much to the consternation of the Republican Wing of the Tory Party).
  29. Hendrick Larose from Canada writes: With all the anti-Harper sentiment on these posts, I try to envisage Mr Dion at the G8 and how he would represent Canada. My guess is he would embarass us beyond anything any other leader has done. He would be chirping about global warming as the biggest issue and when asked about Zimbabwe, the response would be Yes the carbon tax will make them a better country in the long run.
  30. P. M. from Ottawa, Canada writes: Mr. Harper leadership qualities on the international stage make me proud to be a Canadian. Great work!
  31. Polar Bear from Floating Iceberg, Canada writes: Harper is the only leader in the Conservative Party of Canada. And he continues to behave that way even when he holds the post of the Prime Minsiter of Canada. He failed to graduate from the CPC leader level to the PM level.

    Who is paying for his family's visit to Zimbabwe. Wife I understand, but who pays for the the son?

    Just wondering.
  32. Mahatma Gandhi from Canada writes: vincent furnier from Montreal, Canada writes: I'm no big fan of Harper, but he (and Germany) made the morally right decision here.

    The problem is that they have made no decision at all. Talk is cheap. How is Mugabe going to be brought to justice?

    J Law from Canada writes: Randy Hyland from Winnipeg, One minute you're screaming he is in the newspapers too much, the next that he refuses to make himself available to the press. I wish you would make up your mind._

    Oh, please. Most of us can distinguish between answering questions by a free press, and getting his picture taken on the steps to a plane. Harper certainly does.
  33. Randy Hyland from Winnipeg, Canada writes: J Law from Canada writes: Randy Hyland from Winnipeg,

    One minute you're screaming he is in the newspapers too much, the next that he refuses to make himself available to the press. I wish you would make up your mind.

    * Posted 06/07/08 at 11:57 AM EDT
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    Law, don't make things up about what I said or didn't say. Where & when did I say the above? Especially the part where you say I said 'He refuses to make himself available to the press'.
  34. Bub Slub from Calgary, Canada writes: For pete's sake G&M can't you take a better picture of the meeting than some mug shot of family at the plane door. What were you paid to print this picture that is ready made for CRAP publicity?
  35. Mac the Knife from Canada writes: Geriatric Personage taints this page with this statement: 'In many aspects Steve is more despicable and corrupt that Mugabe, who will help us to eliminate Steve?'
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    Only blind partisanship could result in a comment so fatuous and so wrong. Canada does not have 4 million percent inflation, Harper became prime minister by following Canada's electoral rules, Harper does not murder Canadian citizens and he does not murder members of the Opposition, nor is he on record as an admirer of Hitler, as is Mugabe. The list of reasons why Harper is not more despicable and corrupt than Mugabe is quite lengthy, but the above reasons are good enough for me.
  36. Dan L from Canada writes: vincent furnier from Montreal, Canada wrote:

    'Sounds like Harper is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. If he says nothing about Mugabe we hear outcries of 'no one cares about Africa'; if he does speak, then he's an imperialist opportunist who only cares about platinum and petroleum.

    You can't have it both ways.'

    Congratulations Vincent, you've hit the nail squarely on the head! The partisan hacks on these forums should be ashamed of themselves (Geriatric Personage from St. Stephen claiming Harper is worse than Mugabe is a perfect example of this morally bankrupt way of thinking!!)
  37. J Law from Canada writes: Mahatma Gandhi from Canada writes

    Oh, puleeese, the picture is in the newspaper who do you think is taking the picture. It is a news photographer.
  38. all good from qubekistan, Canada writes: same people rely have no clue what are they talking about.De Boers is canadian as Iraq is a democracy.
  39. Well, I'll Be A West Virginian Albino Mexican from Canada writes: Stude Ham from Outremont, Canada writes:
    harper's comments about quebec city probably had more effect than his selfrighteous posture on mugabe.

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    A Liberal labelling others as 'self-righteous' - now that's rich!!!!!!
  40. J Law from Canada writes: Randy Hyland from Winnipeg

    Just sloshing all you Liberals in the same p*ss pot, I guess.
  41. Mahatma Gandhi from Canada writes: J Law from Canada writes: Mahatma Gandhi from Canada writes Oh, puleeese, the picture is in the newspaper who do you think is taking the picture. It is a news photographer.

    Are you for real? Who cares who's taking the picture? Is Harper taking questions about anything? Some of us want information about what the government is doing and why, not a hand wave.
  42. globefan Eh from Canada writes: Talking and chewing gum...Yes Zimbabwe matters a great deal but the longer term issue of climate change impact is going off the rails and that really does matter.

    Can't they manage to do two things at the same time, the G8 is incapable of showing leadership on much of anything.
  43. David Griffith from NS, Canada writes: So Vern, True North, Stooge Ham,and the rest of the partisan Liberal idiots on this thread: Now you find something wrong with the PM speaking out against the despot, Mugabe. I guess that means that good Liberals favor the Mugabe regime, yes? How low WILL a Liberal stoop?
  44. Dan L from Canada writes: Mahatma Gandhi in response to this:

    'J Law wrote: Mahatma Gandhi .....who do you think is taking the picture. It is a news photographer.'

    wrote:

    'Are you for real? Who cares who's taking the picture? Is Harper taking questions about anything? Some of us want information about what the government is doing and why, not a hand wave.'

    Mahatma, take a look at those funny black marks on the white background that surround the photo that offends you so much ...... those are called words and seem to be indicating what's been discussed so far
  45. Randy Hyland from Winnipeg, Canada writes: J Law from Canada writes: Randy Hyland from Winnipeg

    Just sloshing all you Liberals in the same p*ss pot, I guess.

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    See there you go again automatically labelling people. Last election I voted for Conservative. Big mistake. I have never ever in 40 years of voting , voted Liberal. Looks like next election the Liberals will get my vote. Now you can call me a Liberal I suppose.
  46. bob london from Canada writes: Bub Slub: 'liberals' pay for these pictures of the democratic enemy.
  47. George McKnabb from Canada writes: DeBoers (sic) a Canadian company...wow!, the lefties/self-righteous have really outdone themselves with their lack of research/knowledge this morning!!

    I wonder what Chretien thinks of this---he was afterall one of Mugabe's best buddies??? It sure makes the Libs look disgusting when they openly back a vicious thug/despot/annihilator!! It sure shows the Libs true colours however! Sad.
  48. Kevin Desmoulin from Toronto, Canada writes: I do not like the government but give credit where it is due.
    Unfortunately I can not do this too with Mr Harper and his crew.

    I think we all have partisan lens on at times and that is what is the problem in this country, It is Lib this and conservative, when all of us should be thinking of the country of Canada first, and the interests of all Canadians first.
    This story is a good reminder of how lucky and good we really have it here.
    I am not glossing over the problems we have, we got a lot of work here to strengthen our country and the people here.
  49. bob london from Canada writes: Randy Hyland. A babyboomer from Winnipeg vote Conservative? That would make you the smallest minority group in Winnipeg.
  50. David Griffith from NS, Canada writes: Randy Hyland from Winnipeg, Canada writes: J Law from Canada writes: Randy Hyland from Winnipeg

    Just sloshing all you Liberals in the same p*ss pot, I guess.

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    See there you go again automatically labelling people. Last election I voted for Conservative. Big mistake. I have never ever in 40 years of voting , voted Liberal. Looks like next election the Liberals will get my vote. Now you can call me a Liberal I suppose.
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    They say there's one born every minute (sucker, not Liberal, thank heavens).

    Vote Liberal. Then get out yer wallet. They will want access to its contents. Pretty much all of it.
  51. Ed Long from white Rock, Canada writes: I expect this type of action from the Prime Minister of Canada.

    The G8 is of questionable value given the absence of China and India, but Harper is taking full advantage of the current format and I applaud his maturity as a leader.
  52. jeff franklin from Canada writes: P.M. has got the best hair. Just doesn't move, even in that wind.

    Praise be to Jaysus, P.M. Harper's Fashionista/ Psychic and Hair Product Line.

    Shirley, there has to be a menorah lighting/ dedication that our P.M. can avail himself to at this summit.

    God Bless Canada and the Conservative Rapturist Alliance Party (CRAP).
  53. R. M. from Regina, Canada writes: When I read many of these comments I read the remarks of fellow Canadians full of vitriol and needing some kind of cathartic release from their own frustrations/anger/disappointment, etc. The G&M commentary section certainly has not lived up to its hopes, in my opinion, of helping to further understanding of issues and prompt rational, somewhat sane that is, discussion and debate.

    Issues that arise in countries like Zimbabwe are far from simple. Climate change/global warming, whatever you choose to call it is far from having consensus, yet the tendency seems to always be to simply it (remove Mugabe, presto, all problems gone), tax carbons (presto, climate change gone).......and to think that international leaders with different forms of government, hugely different life experiences, phenomenally different constituents and economies can sit down and agree on action with the ease of some kind of relaxed, small service club is hopeless naive.
  54. A Canadian Patriot from Toronto, Canada writes: EXCELLENT! I'm very proud of Harper. This is exactly the kind of foreign policy push Canada must take a lead in. Tremendous.
  55. E MacM from Canada writes: help the african people to help themselves. offer our help don't ram it down their throats. its so comical the americans helped the people of iraq because they were being killed and there was no justice and they wanted our help. Ya it looks lke they wanted our help doesn't it, that is why they die trying to get the americans out.
    Now we talk of helping the african people........why not pay what the exports are worth, why not import more of the amazing goods and pay what its worth. Why not demand an honest Government stand up for its people, why not train their police to police and help get rid of corruption. Why not give them the means to help themselves they don't need us holding their hand, they need to stop being exploited by the rich countries.
  56. John Smith from Canada writes: Harper is a world-class statesman. I was 1st impressed with him on the world stage after seeing his address to the Australian Parliament. Though others, for reasons of political partisanship, may not want to admit it Harper is well respected internationally. I also suspect world leaders are aware that Harper will be PM for sometime to come, and that also provides him with political clout when meeting with PM's and President's.
  57. David Griffith from NS, Canada writes: jeff franklin from Canada writes: P.M. has got the best hair. Just doesn't move, even in that wind.

    Praise be to Jaysus, P.M. Harper's Fashionista/ Psychic and Hair Product Line.

    Shirley, there has to be a menorah lighting/ dedication that our P.M. can avail himself to at this summit.

    God Bless Canada and the Conservative Rapturist Alliance Party (CRAP).
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    Another high-quality anti-Harper post. Jeffey, you should be so proud of this accomplishment. So astute, so witty. Reeks of intelligence. Or something.
  58. John Smith from Canada writes: George Nikitin from Hamilton, Canada writes: I didn't know Harper had a wife. I thought he was gay.
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    Or were you hoping he was gay?
  59. John Smith from Canada writes: After reading the G&M blogs for several weeks now one thing is very clear. The people who support the CPC are upfront and forthright about their political beliefs. They are not ashamed to say who they support. On the other hand, those who support the LPC do not come right out and say so. Instead, the LPC supporters only try to demonize the CPC without declaring their obvious support for the Dion LPC. I guess that's why I can never find anyone who will tell me to my face they support the LPC.
  60. David Griffith from NS, Canada writes: ANOTHER IN OUR FROM THE 'YOU WON'T SEE IT IN THE GLOBE' SERIES: Canadians say Tories make more cents UPDATED: 2008-07-06 03:09:06 MST By KATHLEEN HARRIS, NATIONAL BUREAU CHIEF Email Print Write Size: A A A Share: OTTAWA -- More Canadians are putting their trust in the Tories to shepherd them through tough economic times, a new poll finds. The Nanos Research-Sun Media survey shows 31.8% of Canadians have faith in the Conservatives when it comes to managing job security and the economy, compared to 23.6% who trust the Liberals... ...The trust gap is most stark in the West, where 39% have confidence in the Conservatives to manage the economy and only 20% put faith in the Liberals. The two main political parties are virtually tied in Ontario and the Atlantic, but the Tories have gained a trust edge on monetary matters in Quebec. Nanos said the numbers tell a story not just about who Canadians trust, but who they don't. Liberal policy talk about implementing a carbon tax -- dubbed the 'tax trick' in Tory attack ads -- could shake confidence in the Grits as stewards of the economy. More at: http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/National/2008/07/06/6080146-sun.html It's like I've said many times, when the chips are down, Canada WILL vote with its wallet, and not some social engineering scheme a'la'Dion. You're welcome
  61. Kurtis Smith from Canada writes: E MacM from Canada writes: now we talk of helping the african people........why not pay what the exports are worth, why not import more of the amazing goods

    go ahead and do it. Just go start a company and import things. Price the goods at what YOU think they are really worth. If it is feasible then you will make a lot of money. If your idea is stupid you will go bankrupt.

    Since you really believe in you idea why tell us? Keep it secret and make a profit on it.
  62. bill johnson from Quebec, Canada writes: John Smith....very prescient comments. It is tragic indeed that Canadians of all stripes cannot recognize that Canadian governments (of all stripes) can work to effect change of totalitarian governments. It worked with South Africa, and slowly, but surely, it can happen with Mugabe. Vermin and others are totally partisan.
  63. Hans Ulster from Low Earth Orbit, Canada writes: William Doyle from Prince George, Canada writes: I commend PM Harper in his stand on Zimbabwe and democratic rights in that country .

    Is he also going to find the backbone to take on bush on his human rights record in Guantanamo Bay as well as demanding the immediate return of Mr Khadr from the bush Gulag.

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    I actually had family in the gulags; Guantanomo was never a gulag except for those who are hopelessly challenged linguistically. My hunch is that detainees got and get better treatment than in any country in the Middle East. And, quite frankly, many Canadians are quite content with Khadr staying right where he is.
  64. Bill G from Calgary, Canada writes: Predictable that the usual assortment of ultra-left wackjobs are expressing support for Mugabe. I glad Canada is leading on the world stage by calling a spade a spade.
  65. Hans Ulster from Low Earth Orbit, Canada writes: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article4276294.ece

    Teenage girls raped at Robert Mugabe's torture camps
    A sharp rise in pregnancies shows Zanu-PF’s campaign is reaching new depths of cruelty

    Dozens of teenage girls have been made pregnant after being taken into the bush and raped in torture camps by President Robert Mugabe’s youth militia operating near Mudzi, a town 100 miles northeast of Harare, human rights workers allege.
  66. Bobby Culture from Canada writes: Wilf Kruggel from Canada writes: It really does not make sense ... lets face it ... Ban goods comming from there if compliance is not possible ...
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    Where have you been for the last quarter of a century? Maybe you are one of the lucky fellows who never have to go shopping? Welcome to the real world and try to live in it for a change.
  67. Is there anybody out there? from Canary Islands, Canada writes: A diversion from his do nothing about anything policies.
  68. Bobby Culture from Canada writes: Until Harper gathers the courage to 'press' Mugabe's backers ... China being one ... it's just a lot of hot air as far as I am concerned (as usual).

    Then again, he just might be getting smarter at last knowing China might respond with ... 'Harper who?'.

    Save us the embarrassment!!!
  69. Hendrick Larose from Canada writes: Is there anybody out there? from Canary Islands, Canada writes: A diversion from his do nothing about anything policies.

    Contrary to the Dion approach of trying to solve issues that are already resolved and dividing the country over it
  70. Jack Mitchell from Canada writes: Mrs. Harper is such a babe.
  71. Well, I'll Be A West Virginian Albino Mexican from Canada writes: John Smith from Canada writes: After reading the G&M blogs for several weeks now one thing is very clear. The people who support the CPC are upfront and forthright about their political beliefs. They are not ashamed to say who they support. On the other hand, those who support the LPC do not come right out and say so. Instead, the LPC supporters only try to demonize the CPC without declaring their obvious support for the Dion LPC. I guess that's why I can never find anyone who will tell me to my face they support the LPC.

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    Unfortuanately when someone from the CPC is upfront with their beliefs the LPC drones immediately take a double dose of red kool-aid and pablum and label the CPC as a bunch of intolerant Bible-thumping racists, homophobes, and war-mongers - after complaining previously about how they are muzzled of course.

    They then do an about face and defend the members of their own part who express the same thoughts as being in a party where everyone can say what they want - even what they criticise everyone else for.
  72. Tax my toilet paper, please Dion - I will use less from Canada writes: Notice to all Liberal twits posting here today:

    Crawl back into your holes, please. Go listen to your tapes of Chretien saying the Liberals will get rid of the GST; listen to McGuinty saying he won't raise taxes...etc.

    The fact is that Mugabe has made a complete farce out of what is supposed to be democracy; he's made a farce out of what should be free and fair elections.

    Leaders of democratic countries such as ours have to say something about that.
  73. Jim Cohoon from Chilliwack, Canada writes: Thank you Mr. Harper for taking a strong stand internationally against Mugabe's transparently undemocratic and unethical tactics leading to dictatorial rule in Zimbabwe. Though grudgingly perhaps, you have justifiably earned some respect from me for that action. Now if only you would take such strong and honourable positions consistently -- as a general principle (i.e. regardless of political brownie points or ideological alliances) -- my respect for you would go through the roof. Heck, I might even consider voting for you.
  74. Brian Dell from Stockholm, Sweden writes: Canadians should vote for Harper because his wife and daughter look cute on magazine covers.
  75. David Griffith from NS, Canada writes: Bobby Culture from Canada writes: Until Harper gathers the courage to 'press' Mugabe's backers ... China being one ... it's just a lot of hot air as far as I am concerned (as usual).
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    Actually, the PM HAS spoken publicy against China in the past, on to be criticized by people like you. can't have it both ways, bud. Do yer homework.
  76. R.U. Thayer from Canada writes: Lately, Harper is looking more and more like a sculpture of himself fresh out of Madame Tussaud's wax museum.
  77. Is there anybody out there? from Canary Islands, Canada writes: Harper speaks. Problem is no one listens anymore.
  78. David Griffith from NS, Canada writes: R.U. Thayer from Canada writes: Lately, Harper is looking more and more like a sculpture of himself fresh out of Madame Tussaud's wax museum.
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    I heard they were thinking of doing one of Dion as well but they discovered they already had one. A joker, I think. Or maybe a court jester...also known as a fool...
  79. Lo B from Burnaby, Canada writes: I find it interesting that the western world is all upset at Mugabe. Go look up how many times Mubarak was the only name on the Egyptian ballot - it's been a lot! The last election in Egypt was supposed to be more 'free' and democratic, except that the only viable contender was placed in jail. Where were the western leaders then? Oh yeah, shutting their mouths because Mubarak is their buddy. Why didn't the Egyptian people revolt? I guess they didn't all want to end up in jail or 'disappeared' over an election that will never be free from King Mubarak!
  80. Well, I'll Be A West Virginian Albino Mexican from Canada writes: Is there anybody out there? from Canary Islands, Canada writes: Harper speaks. Problem is no one listens anymore.

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    Do you ever get that feeling in relation to your posts?
  81. Bobby Dy from Edmonton, Canada writes: Hendrick Larose, the CPC have already embarrassed us multiple times on the international scene. His position on Mugabe is exactly what any Government of Canada would advance. It's a no-brainer. To take the opposite position, as he did with Israel when it KNOWINGLY bombed a UN outpost and killed a Canadian soldier, on the other hand, is what embarrasses this country. It can't even stand up for its own countrymen if that position might deviate from a position on a key U.S. interest.
  82. Ed Long from white Rock, Canada writes: John Smith ... accurate posts.
  83. Jon S. from Montreal, Canada writes: Vince Furnier: Great commentary. Lefties on here seem to think that if the west is in favor of something, that's it's evil. It's insane the way some people think. You succinctly made your point. Good job!
  84. Peter Cox from Toronto, Canada writes: Geriatric Personage from St. Stephen, Canada writes: No Harper doesn't pillage, murder and rape but he does fornicate with dubious friends.

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    GP. This is one of the most offensive posts I have ever seen on these threads! Please provide some evidence of your allegations about Mr. Harper's 'fornication with dubious friends' please!
  85. Al Bore from OTTAWA, Canada writes:

    It's refreshing to have somebody competent representing Canada on the world stage.
  86. Mahatma Gandhi from Canada writes: Dan L from Canada writes: Mahatma, take a look at those funny black marks on the white background that surround the photo that offends you so much ...... those are called words and seem to be indicating what's been discussed so far

    I suppose this is what passes for wit in conservative fandom. Mr. Harper has a well-earned reputation for being a secretive control freak who doesn't trust anyone in his government to be alone with the press, including himself. I am of course speaking in general terms and not specifically about whatever he's mumbling in the Japanese PM's ear about Mugabe. But in re Mugabe, Harper is in a position to do something about him, requesting his indictment by the ICC for crimes against humanity. Everything else is hot air.
  87. Geriatric Personage from St. Stephen, Canada writes: to Peter Cox his George Bush dalliance is surely all that is needed as explanation. (Fornicate: A close unseemly relationship outside marriage)
  88. Duorp Naidanac from Canada writes: These post personally attacking the Prime Minister of Canada are disgusting...
  89. Hans Ulster from Low Earth Orbit, Canada writes: Geriatric Personage from St. Stephen, Canada writes: to Peter Cox his George Bush dalliance is surely all that is needed as explanation. (Fornicate: A close unseemly relationship outside marriage)

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    You lefties crack me up. So what political party advocates severing the relationship with our friend and largest trading partner? Oh, yeah, none. So I will take this as more foot-stomping from a leftie who hates that the leaders of our two countries have a close professional relationship. These past 8 years must have been tough on your fragile and delicate personality. LOL.
  90. Honesty is the best Policy from Canada writes: Duorp Naidanac from Canada writes: These post personally attacking the Prime Minister of Canada are disgusting...
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    You're right... they are similar to what Harper and the CPC do every day.
  91. Hans Ulster from Low Earth Orbit, Canada writes: Honesty is the best Policy from Canada writes: Duorp Naidanac from Canada writes: These post personally attacking the Prime Minister of Canada are disgusting...
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    You're right... they are similar to what Harper and the CPC do every day.

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    I guess it would be to much to ask for daily links over the past week? Oh, yeah, you are just making stuff up.
  92. Dennis sinneD from Calgary, Canada writes:

    Prime Minister Harper is doing the right thing, again...
  93. Honesty is the best Policy from Canada writes: Hans Ulster from Low Earth Orbit, Canada writes: Honesty is the best Policy from Canada writes: Duorp Naidanac from Canada writes: These post personally attacking the Prime Minister of Canada are disgusting...
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    You're right... they are similar to what Harper and the CPC do every day.

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    I guess it would be to much to ask for daily links over the past week? Oh, yeah, you are just making stuff up.
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    See the CPC web site.
    Nothing but attacks all the time
    Canada's natural opposition ...stands for nothing and is against everything.
  94. Bobby Culture from Canada writes: David Griffith from NS ....
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    David:

    I do read news. However (unlike people like yourself), I read more than just Canadian editions. I also read analysis from reputable overseas media (like BBC Asia, Hong Kong Economic Times etc.)

    Read my posting again!!!

    I said " ...Then again, he just might be getting smarter at last knowing China might respond with ... "Harper who?"."

    "PRESSING" DOES NOT MEAN saying things like .... something to do the the Almighty Dollar?

    Solid action, not words.
  95. Bobby Culture from Canada writes: To: David Griffith from NS ....

    (cont.)

    I am saying China doesn't even consider Stevie as anybody of force in the world theatre (just a little poddle answering to GWB). Didn't you remember not long ago, China granted our Stevie something like 15 minutes only to meet with Hu (in Vietnam) with nothing solid accomplished?

    Too bad GWB wouldn't let Harper borrows some of the Nukes that he can re-aim once in a while, just for the fun of it, in the name of military exercise. Now that's PRESSING.

    I do admit Stevie's appointment of Emerson of late seems to be a sensible move, albeit he got a lot of mending to do in the diplomatic front.

    One thing you do have to understand is regardless of who is the PM, he or she has to consider economics (at the global level which Harper doesn't seem to be capable of).

    As I had noted previously on our posts, over 90% of Fortune 500 companies have significant presence (and $$$$ invested in China already), even our little Magna has 14 locations in China. These are minor details, maybe to you only.

    A bit of consolation ... to all Chinese, at the bottom of the barrel IS NOT Harper, it's the President of France (talk about having backbone, China already put him on notice YOU ARE NOT WELCOME, somehow the joker insist to GO, talk about being shameless, MAYBE THE BILLIONS OF PENDING ORDERS HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.

    Grow up!!!
  96. The Real PS from Canada writes: Yvonne Wackernagel from Woodville, Canada writes: And just imagine, DeBoers, a Canadian company is planning a large expansion of its Platinum mine in Zimbabwe! Wow, they must be treating the local miners fairly, would you now think? Maybe, Harper should take a page out of their book .

    And there I thought DeBoers was a furniture company on Yonge Street...

    De Beers, on the other hand is a mining company but is not Canadian

    Yvonne, of what do you speak???
  97. Tim Cares from Canada writes: I guess there are no negative implications regarding the Alberta economy or else he wouldn't be pushing for it.
  98. bill bocher from Canada writes: thankfully we don't have the libs at these metings making the usual irresponsible anti-American comments. The Dion/May Liberals would be a joke on the world stage anyways.
  99. Hans Ulster from Low Earth Orbit, Canada writes: Honesty is the best Policy from Canada writes: Hans Ulster from Low Earth Orbit, Canada writes: Honesty is the best Policy from Canada writes: Duorp Naidanac from Canada writes: These post personally attacking the Prime Minister of Canada are disgusting...
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    You're right... they are similar to what Harper and the CPC do every day.

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    I guess it would be to much to ask for daily links over the past week? Oh, yeah, you are just making stuff up.
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    See the CPC web site.
    Nothing but attacks all the time
    Canada's natural opposition ...stands for nothing and is against everything.

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    It must be unfathomable for you to learn (shocka!) that political parties may have differences of opinion. Quit being so thin-skinned.
  100. Hendrick Larose from Canada writes: I have noticed a significant change in the Liberals attackes of Harper of late. Months ago they would say Dion could be a better leader. Now they just knock Harper with no word about how Dion would be better. I think its clear that Dion would be a significant detriment to Canada on the world stage. I say this because he is a one-trick pony and his one trick (the environment) is not a very impressive trick either (except that it works on Central Canada). He has no vision of what is right and wrong in international dealings. He is too gutless to take a stand (until parliament winds up and then he is all hot to debate as long as its Harper). He is a devisive force (pitting region against region. How does this make a credible replacement for the leader we have?

    To my Liberal colleagues just think (a challenge in itself) what would Dion do that woul