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ERIC DUHATSCHEK

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Latest comment posted at 1:12 PM EST 07/07/08

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  1. m Perrin from Calgary, Canada writes: Oy!!!!
  2. r paul from vancouver, Canada writes: There goes the Flames dressing room and their chances of any success! I am just glad that he didnt come back to Vancouver.
  3. Martin Fedgrass from Canada writes: This is sad. I thought Calgary had more class than to sign a criminal. Perhaps they will rethink this and trade him for someone doing time for break-and-enter and an 'embezzler to be named later'.
  4. Chris Levesque from Calgary, Canada writes: Well, I guess I'll have lots of free time this winter, because I sure won't be cheering for the Flames so long as that criminal is on their roster. :(
  5. J M from Superduperhockeyville, Canada writes: I sure as hell won't be attending any Flames games this year. I'm just worried about having an animal like that roaming the city. Lock up the kids!
  6. Jake ---- from Canada writes: Bertuzzi might have made some wrong choices in his life but the sucker punch incident was the coaches fault. There is no way Bertuzzi would have taken that shot if it wasn't for the coach.

    Calgary is getting a good second line player and for all you flames fans who said they wouldn't attend a flames game because he is on the team. All I have to say to you is, its safer to go to the arena in calgary then it is roaming the streets, Calgary is full of criminals so cow town should welcome this guy with open arms.
  7. Jim Ray from GTA, Canada writes: 'Moore has never played hockey again.'

    Think about that. I play once a week in a beer league (D division) and I would be crushed if I couldn't play again.

    I guess punching someone from behind, then jumping on them and hitting them again when they're unconcious is just part of the game.
  8. j wilson from vancouver, Canada writes: Lighten up, ladies. He'll score 25 or more and have 100 PIMs.

    He sticks up for his teammates and hates stupid media questions. Oh, and if you cheapshot his captain, he'll literally knock your block off.

    No downside. Youre lucky to get him.
  9. slapdash dapoint from trawna, Canada writes: i'm still hoping bertuzzi isn't looking for a place to live in alberta... how about mccabe for todd?
  10. Scot Loucks from Pickering, Canada writes: I sure hope some of you self righteous posters never make a mistake in your lives.

    The man made a mistake and it cost him dearly. In my mind he hasn't been the same hockey player since.

    Here's hoping he brings back his game playing with Jerome... who endorsed the signing by the way.

    Cheers
  11. Martin Fedgrass from Canada writes: Interesting.

    So Bertuzzi is totally innocent for ruining another hockey players career by deliberately attacking him with the intent to hurt him?
    Coach: 'Hey Bertuzzi, get out on the ice and try and break the neck of that guy, would ya?'. Bertuzzi:'D-uuhhhh...okay boss'.

    I guess if we us that logic then we can release most of the murderers and rapists in federal prisons.
  12. Captain Ontario from Canada writes: Keenan loves this guy!

    Ok, send him and a second rounder to the Leafs for McCabe and a bag of pucks.
  13. Jim Ray from GTA, Canada writes: Scot Loucks: A 'mistake' is forgetting an attachment on an email. A pre-mediated attack from behind and continuing to punch someone in the back of the head while he lies unconcious is not a mistake.
  14. Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes: 'Jake ---- from Canada writes: Bertuzzi might have made some wrong choices in his life but the sucker punch incident was the coaches fault. There is no way Bertuzzi would have taken that shot if it wasn't for the coach.'

    The NHL doesn't have martial law. No way Bertuzzi gets off the hook that easy.
  15. Ricky for a Centrist Canada from Canada writes:
    Dunno, Loucks....methinks Sutter is rolling the dice big time on this one.

    Wondering what the pricetag is....
  16. Dan Corleone from Vancouver, Canada writes: Good luck Calgary...here are some predictions.....Bertuzzi will negate 50% of the power plays this year, because he will take a lazy minor penalty on the PP,....he will divide the dressing room...and eventually this move will lead to both the end of Keenan and Sutter in Calgary...
  17. Ross g from Edmonton, Canada writes: The energetic baggage with Bertuzzi will be there at least until he settles with Moore. If you wonder if that baggage affects any one but him, look at how well the teams he has played for since have done.
  18. R Miller from Halifax, Canada writes: IMHO This signing could be a mistake...

    Has Keenan ever won a cup ?

    I cannot remember.
  19. Scot Loucks from Pickering, Canada writes: Jim Ray; You don't lose over 5m in salary, who knows how much in endorsements, get suspended from your livelihood for a year plus, do 80 hours of community service.... for forgetting an attachment on an email.

    Oh and still have to worry about law suits.

    The man has paid the price.... big time.

    Those of you that insist on carrying on about it are a little to self righteous for my taste.

    Cheers
  20. xoxo hockey girl from Canada writes: I think we are jumping on too many rabbit trails. If he doesn’t work out he will be the next McCarty. Bertuzzi may bring a lot of buz but who knows what will happen. Too say Calgary will drop in the standings is like saying the Leafs are a cup contender in the 08-09 season…hmmm
  21. Scot Loucks from Pickering, Canada writes: Miller ... Keenan won with the Rangers.

    Cheers
  22. j wilson from vancouver, Canada writes: Martin, you saw Moore's hit on Naslund that started all of this, right?

    The difference between the two shots is that Moore's neck broke. The intent was the same. Moore ran at Naslund in a way that marginal player have run stars for decades trying to make a team.

    If it had been illiterate man-child Steve Downie running Naslund instead of Harvard-educated gentleman Moore, this story would be told much differently.

    Bertuzzi wasnt the only thug in that opera.
  23. Rolling my Eyes from Bumblyburg, Canada writes: Jim Ray from GTA, Canada writes: continuing to punch someone in the back of the head while he lies unconcious is not a mistake.

    -----

    Really? You sure we're watching the same replay?
    Seems peoples memories are faulty.
    For all those claiming not to go to any more games, I say thank you ... it'll clear up seats for everyone else!
  24. Martin Fedgrass from Canada writes: I certainly dont deny that Bertuzzi is alone in his ultra-goon activities - I would be more than happy to extend the witch hunt to others just as deserving (Downie - are you paying attention?).

    The sad (or fortunate....depending on your point of view) fact is that Bertuzzi represents the 'line in the sand' that most of us have drawn- enough is enough. We will not stand for thsi kind of crap any more.

    Please remove him from hockey for good.
  25. Ryan M from Ottawa, Canada writes: j wilson, good post. I question whether the majority of posters here actually saw the sequence of events.

    A lot of candidates for sainthood on this board, apparently.

    Think he's well past his prime, I wonder what the price was though?
  26. xoxo hockey girl from Canada writes: I think Sean Avery should be removed from the league for a while as well. The stunt he pulled in the playoffs was disrespectful and showed that the league has to make changes to the rules to accommodate to his childish needs. Bertuzzi may be bad but what about Simon.

    There are more thugs out there is just that Moore is suing like a typical American to get as much money out of this situation he signed up for. I don’t see Moore suing every player that piled on top of him after the hit. Funny how things work out.
  27. Duncan McCockenue from Canada writes: IMO This is a great signing! The guy has paid his dues for that mistake he made, the only issue would be what the rest of the team thinks, im sure the fans will come along. He's a team player and sticks up for his guys. The media might cause some distractions, but for 1.95 mill!? C'mon, its a steal! If the league didn't want him playing any more, they should have banned him or sat him for longer. Its not his fault the league is still letting him play.
  28. Rolling my Eyes from Bumblyburg, Canada writes: Martin Fedgrass from Canada writes: Please remove him from hockey for good.

    -----

    So what's worse, then intent to injure, or the result (ie: the injury)??

    Seriously people, get over it ... I'm not condoning Bertuzzi's actions, it was stupid, no doubt about it ... but you'd be removing quite a few people from hockey if you went based on intent ... dur, how about anyone involved in a fight? or Moore himself for his shot on Naslund (which resulted in bone fragments in his elbow and a concussion)?

    Geeze people, come down off your lofty pedestals ...
  29. Don Bryant from Calgary, Canada writes: Ken King and Darryl Sutter - you have embarrassed and disgraced our hockey club by signing this low life piece of garbage. Will you be supplying him with a knife and a gun when he goes out on the ice to face his opponents?
  30. Forgive Me Lord from Canada writes: I won't begin to be forgive Bertuzzi until he accepts responsibility for what he did to Steve Moore. Until then, he is nothing but a disgrace to hockey.

    I feel sorry for Flames' fans. The only positive spin in this ongoing story is that Bertuzzi's will have the cash he needs to compensate Moore. $10 million is about right, imho.
  31. R Miller from Halifax, Canada writes: xoxo hockeygirl from Canada:

    I agree that Sean Avery should be removed from the NHL for his continual flouting of the rules of good sportsmanship...

    If not for his own safety ...

    Cheers
  32. xoxo hockey girl from Canada writes: Miller: I agree but instead he gets traded and now is in the Western Conference. I hope the Western teams and instill in him a little respect in regards to other teams....
  33. Arec Bardwin from MLSE LA LA LAND, Canada writes: In other news the Edmonton Oilers are buying new helmets with reinforced backing.
  34. Neil No more last name from Mississauga, Canada writes: He's lost his edge ever since the Moore incident. And the current off-ice stuff clearly continues to impact his play. Close to 2 mill a season? well it's 2 mill less than he made last year, so...I guess a bargain.

    Don't really think anything will rejuvenate his career, not even Iginla. But if it does....man Iginla and Bertuzzi on the same line is a whole lot of power forward.

    Leaf fans calling for a McCabe to Calgary trade for Bertuzzi - Don't want em don't need him. Enough dodo's and attitudes on the Leafs last year. We're supposed to be getting rid of those guys.

    Oh yeah and he's 33.

    Good to see Calgary and Vancouver are temporarily taking over as the butt end's of Canadian Hockey jokes. (ouch!)
  35. Hugo Hall from Calgary, Canada writes: What the heck is Sutter doing? He gets rid of much of the team's scoring punch by letting Nolan, Tanguay and Huselius go, and in their place we get Bertuzzi? Aside from the fact that he sets a lousy example and a lousy human being in general, I don't see him accomplishing much on the ice. The last thing the Flames need is another guy who takes dumb penalties.

    Looks like our boys will be joining the Leafs and Canucks on the golf course come April!
  36. Tom Paine from Every tory is a coward, Canada writes: Was Bertuzzi ever convicted in relation to his televised crippling of that Moore guy?
  37. Ryan M from Ottawa, Canada writes: xoxo - you do realize that Moore is Canadian, right?
  38. james m from Canada writes: Calgary's doing it's best to catch up to Toronto in the race for the most hated team in hockey - too bad classy guys like Iggy are surrounded by trash like that.
  39. Arec Bardwin from Every Liberal is a whiney wimp, Canada writes: No
  40. slapdash dapoint from trawna, Canada writes: xoxo hockey girl from Canada writes: I don’t see Moore suing every player that piled on top of him after the hit. Funny how things work out.

    nor do you see anyone laying adequate blame for moore's injuries on the his teammate who jumped on for the ride.

    it amazes me how so many obvious hockey know it all's seem to have never played the game. you don't jump on top of the guy who is on top of you're own player. just like you don't check players into/onto your own keeper.

    i would have no problem watching bertuzzi play in a leafs sweater.
  41. Neil No more last name from Mississauga, Canada writes: Wow - real bad reaction from Flames fans here. To each their own. I know I wouldn't want him in T.O.

    Flames fans asking about scoring - watch for Mike Cammalleri - I think you'll be pretty impressed with his skill and style of play. Think Lomb. but a little bit smaller, with more skill - especially passing, and puck control.

    Just as long as the coaches/GM/fans don't eat em alive when he doesn't produce 3 hits/shift.
  42. Neil No more last name from Mississauga, Canada writes: Tom Paine from Every tory is a coward, Canada writes: Was Bertuzzi ever convicted in relation to his televised crippling of that Moore guy?

    hehe - televised crippling - that's rich!
  43. wayne powers from saskatoon, writes: Steriod rage, that's what it was and the more injuries the more juice he uses.You saw what happened when he was allowed to go to the Olympics, he changes a teams chemisty, and not in a good way. I don't like the flames, never have and never will, but if Sutter wants this goon, well it's his problem. Get ready for the early golf next season guys, you and the Leafs should have a Missed the Playoffs/ Don't care golf tournament, in early May.
  44. Jim Ray from GTA, Canada writes: Scot Loucks: I get all that but I just have a problem calling it a 'mistake' when it was clearly a pre-planned event. And despite the 'price he has paid' I will never feel sorry for him. The guy who got sucker punched lost his livelihood forever, while the guy who threw the sucker punch just signs another multi-million dollar deal.

    Rolling my Eyes: watch the video. Bertuzzi was winding up to throw more punches. If Moore's teamate had not jump in Bertuzzi would have kept punching.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz9RE9RGrVY
  45. Neil No more last name from Mississauga, Canada writes: slapdash dapoint from trawna - really? you'd like to see a 33 year old with a history of stupidity and on the decline in his career on a Team like the Leafs who are supposed to be rebuilding?

    I don't know - I don't think he fits.
  46. xoxo hockey girl from Canada writes: Talk to me when you watch the whole game slapdash dapoint. Moore no saint. Yes I may have not played the game but who cares. Get over yourself. This is a comment section, remember that. Considering most of my friends played hockey in school I grew up watching it enough to know there is always a consequence when you go after the captain of the team you have to realize you are marked man. It doesn’t matter what level you play at. You make a cheap shot “intent to hit” a star player of any team don’t expect the team to not react either in that game a the next time they meet.
  47. Rob C from Canada writes: I don't care about the Moore thing anymore. The fact is Bertuzzi shows up for one in three games, he pads his stats by scoring two or three goals in 8-0 routes and then disappears when the tough games occur - That plus all the selfish penalties for retaliating - He has a screw loose (and as if he'd know a dumb question if he heard it - give your head a shake)- - - Burke loved the guy, then dumped him like a bag of unwanted kittens - that tells me all I want to know and confirms everything I ever assumed about Bert: He is a loser - he should be getting low ball offers
  48. xoxo hockey girl from Canada writes: Ryan M. If you read my post correctly I said he is “suing” (the action) like an American. I didn’t say he was American, considering a lot of the trail is taking place in Ontario, I can see that he’s Canadian.
  49. slapdash dapoint from trawna, Canada writes: Neil No more last name from Mississauga, Canada writes: slapdash dapoint from trawna - really? you'd like to see a 33 year old with a history of stupidity and on the decline in his career on a Team like the Leafs who are supposed to be rebuilding?

    I don't know - I don't think he fits.

    ---------------------------------------------------

    sadly, when you put it that way, i think he fits right in with the MLSE plan, regardless of what fletch says or wants to do.

    i don't condone what he did. i just don't see how he should be singled out (from the league AND that incident) as the ultimate goon. i think he'd add grit to the team that has been lacking, and i think in toronto he'd either sink or swim - hopefully he'd get something of his spark back.

    contrast to sundin/mccabe, he's willing to take a cut in pay and has something to prove. all in, i don't have a problem with him.

    but it's a flames thread, i'll be watching more calgary games now.
  50. Duncan McCockenue from Canada writes: I hear Iggy wanted him to play here... I dont condone what he did, but he paid the consequences for it. Steve Moores hit on Naslund was brutal too, and for a marginal player like Moore to hit a star like Naslund was going to merit retribution; Naslund was out for weeks because of it. Yeah, Bert hit him from behind... but the 5 players that jumped on top probably didn't help Steve's cause. If the league didn't want him to play anymore; they would have banned him for life. Its not his fault they're still letting him play. Besides, for 1.95 mil over one year; we can send him to the minors if he starts causing to much strife in the lockerroom. My thoughts are that he's going to try to make a comeback in Calgary, and his paycut demonstrates this.

    I say let him play, although it wouldnt surprise me if he hears some boos in the crowd.
  51. R P from Calgary, Canada writes: Wow! Classless organization??!! How about everyone settle down and realize we got him for a meezly $1.95 and that it is only for one year!

    RELAX!!!!

    It was not the Calgary Flames organization who let him play but he is still a player in the NHL. You don't like it, blame it on the league...not the Flames
  52. iginla rocks from Canada writes: keep this in perspective. Bertuzzi, with similar numbers and playing a similar role, is a cheaper replacement to Nolan, Camarrelli, with similar numbers and a simlar role, is a cheaper replacement to Tanguay. In the process, Sutter saved about $2.5 million.

    Sutter did a great job signing Calgary's core players over the last year and is now doing doing a great job getting a supporting cast in place under the salary cap.

    This is a good signing.
  53. R Miller from Halifax, Canada writes: One cannot ever whitewash these types of events without a great deal of difficulty...

    All the spin in the world will not undo what's been done...

    Moore will never play hockey again, and Bertuzzi gets another year of hockey at 1.95 Million...

    The Flames just sunk a notch in terms of class in my books.
  54. D Burgess from Vancouver, Canada writes: Bert isn't the first hockey player to cold-cock someone, he just happens to be the first to fall on that person and break their neck, assuming it wasn't the cumulative weight of him and five Avalanche players. Claiming that he (or Crow, or the team) planned the result is ridiculous....

    That said, he has been terribly undisciplined at times, barking at referees, taking lazy penalties instead of backchecking, and has been labelled a brooding, cancerous presence in the dressing room.

    All those things are true, but there's no physical reason why he can't return to the same form as 6-7 years ago. The results may surprise people....
  55. M Poland from Calgary, Canada writes: Disgusting. This from a die-hard Flames fan. We could have had Owen Nolan [a true leader--no cheap-shot artist he] and we get a guy who, together with his captain, wouldn't even ride on the team bus his last year in Vancouver. They rented a separate vehicle everywhere they went. Some team player. I'll boo him everytime he is on the ice. Thug.
  56. P C from Toronto, Canada writes: Terrific signing...if you're a fan of any other team in the Northwest Division. An entirely useless Bertuzzi to take up a roster spot for the season. My only regret is that it wasn't for five years and a lot of more valuable salary cap dollars.
  57. Hugo Hall from Calgary, Canada writes:
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    Duncan McCockenue from Canada writes: I hear Iggy wanted him to play here... I dont condone what he did, but he paid the consequences for it. Steve Moores hit on Naslund was brutal too, and for a marginal player like Moore to hit a star like Naslund was going to merit retribution; Naslund was out for weeks because of it. Yeah, Bert hit him from behind... but the 5 players that jumped on top probably didn't help Steve's cause. If the league didn't want him to play anymore; they would have banned him for life. Its not his fault they're still letting him play. Besides, for 1.95 mil over one year; we can send him to the minors if he starts causing to much strife in the lockerroom. My thoughts are that he's going to try to make a comeback in Calgary, and his paycut demonstrates this.
    __________________________________________________________

    Well, considering the Ducks bought out his contract for this upcoming season, and therfore will still have to pay him 2/3 of what he would have made this season, I wouldn't characterize it as a 'pay cut' so much as 'double-dipping'.
  58. Jude Hannaford from Canada writes: Many posters claim the Flames have lost class, I won't argue the merits of such but will add with the class that remains it still leaves them above many of the orginizations in this league. Anyhow, last time I checked, there is little in the way of reward for being a classy orginization. But that shouldn't discourage us. Maybe some of the posters above could spend a few bucks and donate a trophy to Gary et al and call it the Desmond 'tutu' award of Excellence, Gary could award it to a team and the CBC could televise it nationally before they play the Leafs, but only when it can superseed something truly classless, similar to when we got to watch Tie Domi, a real class act, instead of Boom Boom who we all know would steal candy from a baby, spit on an old lady, call you mother a tramp, while whistling sweet dixie into a megaphone, and we can all celebrate how wonderfully classy the NHL and it's owners/players are. The reason the few classy players in this league, Yzerman, Iginla, Linden, Boom Boom, stand out is because there is few. So please give up the self righteous indignation. Mr Bertuzzi has paid and is still paying the price for his behavior. And please remember Mr King, and Mr Sutter are paid to win the Cup. Will Flames fans request that it be given back if Bert scores the cup clinching goal. Not Likely.
  59. Sara Hollands from Airdrie, Canada writes: I can't believe this! I am normally a strong supporter of Sutter, but this unconscionable. What was he thinking? Bertuzzi and Nolan should not be compared in the same breath. Bert is a poison pill. He should retire from the NHL and go play in Siberia.
  60. tim smith from Canada writes: 1) The Bertuzzi bashing here is absurd, if you don't watch enough hockey to put the Steve Moore incident into perspective, please refrain from declaring him evil in a public forum. Something worse happens once a week (within a week, Kasparitis clubbed a guy from behind in OT and got a minor for roughing). Don't put your anger towards hockey, your dog, or whatever, onto Todd Bertuzzi. There isn't a GM or a respected player in the league who agrees with you. Scream all you want, it just makes you look stupid to hockey fans.

    2) After listening to Flames fans cry bloody murder for the Nucks having a guy like Bertuzzi, and listening to all these so-called hockey buffs in Calgary talk crap for years, it makes me a very happy man to see them forced to eat their words. I can't say much for Bertuzzi as a player now, he seems to be constantly battling some kind of injury, but hey, Calgary, how do you like them apples?
  61. Neil No more last name from Mississauga, Canada writes: There you go again Hap. I like ya man, but you gotta stop dragging the Leafs through the mud on these threads that are not Leaf related.

    You'll notice it's a lot (mostly) Flames fans calling for his head. Not Leaf fans. So I dunno why you're calling out the Leafs and their Fans.

    The poster's from Toronto here seem split on what to take of Bertuzzi.
    Personally, don't like him. There's retribution, and then there's ignoring the play for a minute and a half while you bait someone into a fight. the best retribution is always a Phanueff type open-ice hit. Plain and simple. And if not, at least send someone his size out to pick a fight. Bert had 2 inches and 40 lbs on Moore.

    Forget the Moore incident, he's just not playing good hockey, and contributing little to his team but a circus sideshow.

    Try it - just a day with nothing bad to say about TO . It's fun.
  62. Real Name from Toronto, Canada writes: Hap Stokes from Canada writes: j wilson from vancouver, Canada writes: you saw Moore's hit on Naslund that started all of this, right?

    'Hell Tranna fans would probably given old Bert a standing ovation and asked for The Order of Canada if that had happened to their Leafs and Bertuzzi was the one lucky enough to skate down the escaping little coward.'

    Tranna? Give it a rest, geezer.

    No respectable hockey fan would have given Bertuzzi a standing ovation.

    Moore's the coward? I'm sure he could take you anyday, broken neck and all...
  63. Ross Mailer from Canada writes: First off I think this is a great signing for the Flames. You talk about the leadership of Nolan but who left for Minnesota for more money when he doesn't deserve it? Bertuzzi is a great pick up and is a better 2nd line RW than Nolan will be. Secondly, everyone calls Bertuzzi a criminal? That happened 4 years ago and the league did what they had to do and he gets that and has done his time so get over yourselves. If you are a Flames fan and you're going to boo him at games then don't go, you're not a true fan then because you chear for the team. Everyone who is hating on this needs to keep there mouths shut and get a life. Bertuzzi is going to be great for the Flames, so why would you be hating on him 'Flames fans'? Especially when Iginla told Sutter to go get him. Does that make Iginla a bad leader for wanting a HOCKEY PLAYER on his team. Everyone needs to grow up and move on.
  64. Carl Baldin from Calgary, Canada writes: That Iggy is such a classy guy! I'm serious -> he is down to earth, appreciates what he has, where he is (except for the weather in Calgary!), and is a great role model for all hockey players and kids. We are so lucky to have him as a Flame.....and he's not greedy!!!

    Perhaps he will be a great influence on Bert....hope so. Bert made a horrendous mistake (moore incident) and I hope he gets his poop together here in the cowtown. He is smart enough to recognize Iggy's demeanour and will do better here than in LA.
  65. Professional30smthg in TO from Canada writes: man you people are harsh. A tough guy in a tough sport punches a guy and then gets tackled on top of him. A mistake was made. He has paid the price in spades - suspension, personal lawsuits, personal issues, and his game has never been the same. Yes I feel bad for Moore, but hey, you cheap-shot a team's captain, you run the risk of getting cheap-shotted yourself. That is life my friend.

    However, I don't like the signing since I don't think Todd's an effective player anymore. He plays scared. Also brings unecessary negative attention to the city. Bad move.
  66. Crimson The-Red from Canada writes: Yes Bert made a mistake. Moore was a cheap shot artist, what goes around comes around .... no one figured it would be as bad as it ended up being, but it does show (not condone, just show) that you can't be a cheap shot artist and expect to stay safe by running to the bench or always turning your back to anyone wanting to hand out payback for your cheap shots.
  67. R Miller from Halifax, Canada writes: I should further qualify my earlier comment...

    IMHO The Flames have lost a bit of class today with this signing which might set a bad example for youth...

    But since the Flames won the NHL trophy for best corporate citizen this season, they still have a lot of class.

    Yes, everyone makes mistakes... It was a terrible tragedy and shame for both players involved, Moore and Bertuzzi... Neither will ever be the same again.

    Cheers
  68. daver d from Canada writes: Ga-ga goonie.

    c'mon Calgary and let him know what a jerk this guy is
  69. Ziad Fazel from Calgary, Canada writes: Much profanity from me. This never-ending poisonous debate about Bertuzzi v Moore v Naslund v Burke v Danson v Cherry now comes to Calgary, and will get re-ignited every time:
    - Bertuzzi has a good game
    - Bertuzzi has a bad game
    - Bertuzzi has an uneventful game
    - the Flames play the Canucks, Avalanche, Ducks, Red Wings, and wherever else Burke shows up
    - there is a court filing or press conference about litigation
    - someone does a story on Steve Moore's recovery
    - Bertuzzi is picked for an international tournament
    - Bertuzzi is not picked for an international tournament
    - Bertuzzi gets in a fight
    - Bertuzzi does not get in a fight

    Couldn't we have signed someone who draws less distracting argument, like Karla Homolka, George Bush, or Stephane Dion? Please? So there would be more attention on the Flames hockey?
  70. Neil No more last name from Mississauga, Canada writes: I just don't think he's got it in him anymore.

    Kudos to Carl Baldin from Calgary for pointing out that Iginla's class hopefully rubs off on Bertuzzi. Hope So!
  71. greg panke from Canada writes: Moore did something stupid, the NHL didn't do anything (which was stupid) then Bertuzzi did something stupid.

    I am not a big fan of Bertuzzi, but if you think he should be out of the league because of the Moore incident then you shouldn't watch any NHL hockey because many players take unneccesary chances with other players' lives on a very regular basis. They are usually fortunate enough that the injuries are much less severe and that is the only real difference, similar intent just a lot less damage.
  72. daver d from Canada writes: Why are so many hockey fans complete idiots?
  73. Brian Marto from Toronto, Canada writes: I am sick and tired of the constant slagging of this player, look if the intigator rule was not there this would never happen . I think it is a good move a safe move trust me he will do good.
    Give him a chance !!!!
  74. Dave E from Sackville, Canada writes: He PARALYZED a guy with a dirty hit and should never have been allowed to play hockey again. It's that simple.

    Looks like I have another team to root against. So sad I liked the flames.
  75. gordon foster from Canada writes: Stop whining. I'm sure Bertuzzi's alleged thug mentality will fit in just swell there in Alberta.
  76. May Loo from Calgary, Canada writes: And I thought I was confused when the Flames picked up former Edmonton Oiler Steve Smith way back when-this deal makes even less sense than that one.
  77. Carl Baldin from Calgary, Canada writes: Rumour has it that Bert was spotted at the Stampede Rodeo today, jumped off a horse on to a running Steer and broke its neck.....all in under 6 seconds!

    He made a terrible mistake and knows it. Give him a chance & move on!
  78. wayne powers from saskatoon, writes: To all you Bertuzzi supporters,who blame Moore for the whole thing, you have short memories or just loves goons. Did you forget that Moore fought Brad May in the rematch game and by your own dimwit code he was confronted by a Vancouver and the incident should have been over.
    Watch the video again, before the hit Bertuzzi followed Moore and made no attempt to face his man to man. Look at Bertuzzi's face there was no anger until he hit him then he went nuts. This is the same as Simon, he is either on steroids or has a mental problem. Good to see him in Canada again so if he repeats his actions he will face a real court room situation. Not BC's kangaroo nonsense.
  79. Har Har from Canada writes: Moore got what he deserved.

    When Bertuzzi called him out Moore turned his back and slinked away like the snake he is. He knew what was coming and he did everything he could to make it happen, he wanted to draw a penalty.

    I can't believe how much Bertuzzi has been villified by the Latte drinking lefties across this country. Get a life!
  80. Sev Scott from Calgaristan, Canada writes: Great to be Canadian eh? We all agreed with Gretz when he said at Salt Lake City that 'payback is a_____' (respecting that cross check to Fleury). You all stand and cheer the fights. Now all I read is this sanctimonious crap. He did his crime and his time. Move on. Bert coming to Calgary for a new start is similar to all the thousands from the rest of Canada coming out here, which consequently, has made the West the economic machine that it is, and one of the best places in the world.
  81. Ross g from Edmonton, Canada writes: Like him or hate him, it is irrelivant. Whether it was justified or not, whether is was an accident or not Bertuzzi caused great loss to Moore by his actions. Every team Bertuzzi has played on since the incident has underperformed. Until he settles up with Moore he will be carrying energetic baggage that will affect the team he plays on.
  82. Cam Schmam from Cowgary, Canada writes: Lol...a lot of self-riteousness going on here in redneck land...my how we like to sit on our pedestals. What Bert did was savage...no doubt about it...and there is no justification for it. It wasn't even close, however, to the McSorley/Brashear incident, and small potatoes IMO to Marchments repeated attempts to injure various players throughout the league. Let's face it though...were 'poor Stevie' not hurt the way he was, it would have been a minor incident. The fact that his neck broke was a fluke...stuff happens. Not only did Bert lose millions in endorsements and salary...he lost his edge (never was the same player after the incident), tonnes of future revenue, his reputation (villified everywhere), and likely cost his team their first Stanley Cup. People commit far worse crimes and get off much lighter than that. I suspect that most of the morally outraged posting here do so more because it is trendy to pick a cause and scream blue bloody murder about it rather than out of genuine outrage. Really now...one goon hurt another. Sad. Needed to be adressed. Let's drop the hysteria and get a grip a little though ok? You were probably not going to a game this year anyway...saying you are not going to them just because you don't like one player is kind of dumb though...no?
  83. bob saunders from Belleville ON, Canada writes: Dave E from Sackville, Canada writes: He PARALYZED a guy with a dirty hit and should never have been allowed to play hockey again. It's that simple----------------- You are an idiot- Moore is not paralized - probably has less pain and more movement that me with my 3 shoulder operations. I've taken worse hits than Moore, just didn't have 4 more 200 pounders pile on me. How do you think Betuzzi got the bad back - from all the illegal crosscheck with a weapon(hockey stick) I guess he should be sueing all the players that did it. Friggin idiots the lot of you. I HOPE BERT PLAYS WELL FOR cALGARY, EXCEPT OF COURSE WHEN HE PLAYS THE CANUCKS.
  84. M Brennan from Canada writes: Bertuzzi is a lot better player then Owen Nolan. He has soft hands for a big man and is effective in front of the net on the power play. Bertuzzi, Morrison and Naslund were a great line. Bertuzzi is also a strong skater and strong on the puck.
    Good signing. Iginla's in favour of it and I'm in favour of it too.
  85. Edmund S from Canada writes: Steve Moore did not deserve to have his career ended and I think it's obvious Bertuzzi didn't mean to break his neck in doing so either. That said, in the teams' contest prior to the fateful mugging, Moore knocked out Nasland with a cheap knee to the temple that kept the Canucks captain out for three games. In their next meeting Bertuzzi tried to take it up with Moore in the 'honest' way of hockey (a toe to toe slug match), but Moore skated away like a wimp and well, the rest is history. If he'd made even a fleeting attempt to duke it out they'd get five each and we'd all have been revelling in the Canucks' Cup win of that season. Point is, the use of the hockey stick as a club, machete, and battering ram, the flinging of an elbow here, a knee there, the body-as-torpedo mashing of a guy's face into the glass, and - the worst - a kick with a skate-laced foot are all excesses seen in every single game of hockey. Fighting has nothing to do with the play of hockey and our acceptance of it as fans signifies that we believe it is okay for guys to let off steam with their fists. For those who believe Bertuzzi is forever to be demonized for REALLY hurting someone in doing what the fans, the league, the coaches, the referees and the commentators all accept as the norm you are serious hypocrites. We all have to accept that if we relish the violence that these guys employ we must live with the consequences - even when things get out of hand. If we don't want people getting seriously hurt we have to entirely eliminate fighting AND the dirty checks, the elbows, and use of the stick that are all products of a sporting culture that cultivates dirty play by allowing frustrations to boil over into brawls. This notion that there MUST be fighting in hockey is idiotic. I hope Bertuzzi finds the right chemistry here and that Calgary fans realize what a true asset they've acquired.
  86. Otto H. Kniepkamp from Canada writes: Fraslak writes:
    Crawford does not want him,Burke does not want him,most of the fans do not want him, even a Losers team like the Canucks n
    do not want him.......what on earth possessed a class team like Calgary to sign this X-Goon?
    They should un-sign him and give his 1.95 mills to charity.
  87. Cam Schmam from Cowgary, Canada writes: I don't like him, and 2 of the 3 guys I like to sit around and complain about stuff don't like him, therefore most of the other fans (including the ones who actually go to games) don't like him...
  88. Dakota K from Calgary, Canada writes: What a bunch a whiners posting on here! Boohoo, I'm not watching anymore...I'm too afraid of the big bad man. Good, we don't need fans like you anyway. Hockey is a tough sport, go watch basketball if you can't handle some blood.
  89. Devil Bud from Canada writes: Drip, Drip. Sniffle, Sniffle. I can't believe the NHL let this happen. I'm going back to watching ringette. Haha...panzies. Didn't the Bertuzzi/Moore thing happen like 20 yrs. ago? My God. Things happen in hockey. People make mistakes. The guy has paid his dues, and hasn't been the same since. As for suggestions that he is a goon...get over it. If you think he is a goon, then you shouldn't be watching hockey at all. He's tough, that is that. All hockey players, as in complete players, should be tough. It is unfortunate what happend back in 1973, but it happened. Get over it, move on. Those who say they won't watch/go to games...more tickets for the real hockey fans. My sister will save you a seat at the ringette game.
  90. R Miller from Halifax, Canada writes: The Flames just lost a little more class after that last comment by Devil Bud.

    Cheers
  91. Twitchy Libertarian from Calgary, Canada writes: Devil bud does not speak for Flames fans. this is an example of why my son won't play organized hockey - bad examples that are excused by so-called adults, not my definition of doing the right thing. just lost some respect for the organization and, sadly, for Mr. Iginla who is usually known as a class act. Just because the league allows him to play doesn't mean signing this clown is a good move. some things are worth more than money.
  92. j wilson from vancouver, Canada writes: Twitchy Libertarian, shouldnt you leave it up to your son as to whether he plays hockey?

    Youre really going to keep him out because of Bertuzzi? Man, he's gonna hate your guts. You forget what it's like to be a kid?
  93. Cam Schmam from Cowgary, Canada writes: Hmm...might want to make sure your kid doesn't get into law Twichy...lots of bad lawyers out there. Oh...I have read of more than a few doctors who have abused their status and took advantage of their patients...can't let him become one of them. Oh yeah...quite a few accountants have embezzled funds...definitely keep him out of that when he grows up. Hmm...can a person become a turnip?
  94. Cam Schmam from Cowgary, Canada writes: Sorry R Miller...the flames lost some class because some guy on an internet forum made a comment you disagree with? I have read stuff I don't like by people from Halifax before...are you ashamed?
  95. R. M. from Regina, Canada writes: I am disappointed to see this signing and it shows that Keenan is having more influence than Sutter which is a real downer for the Flames. I think this signing is going to have some negative consequences for the Flames on the ice and I hope in their local market.
  96. R Miller from Halifax, Canada writes: Cam Schmam from Cowgary, Canada:

    That's not really my point, Cam Schmam...

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion, Cam... Provided it agrees with mine... :)

    There was no need for Devil Bud to try to belittle the people who don't like Bertuzzi in a polarizing tone...

    One cannot whitewash the past by simply insulting another person's opinions... It doesn't work.

    Yes, what's done is done. Arguing over what people's perception of the Bertuzzi-Moore incident is completely useless since everyone will have their own interpretation of what transpired.

    Let's try to move on.
  97. Ed Long from white Rock, Canada writes: Great signing to make a tough team even tougher.

    For you whiners going on about Bertuzzi/Moore, I guess you were never around for Howe/Fontinato nor the gong shows provided by the likes of McSorley, Semenko, Schultz, Wensinck, Jonathon, Lindsay, Richard ..... basically since men strapped on skates.

    You can always watch the Canucks as the Twins cycle the puck.

    Oooooh such skill!
  98. F P from edmonton, Canada writes: Try this again.

    Calgary equals class, not !!

    Bertuzzi, should have been banned for life from the NHL.

    But, then he is going to a team that has no concept of what it takes to be a winner!!!!
  99. Ed Long from white Rock, Canada writes: Calgary, one Cup. Edmonton, five Cups.

    Sounds like both cities know how to win. Although Edmontonchuk, ites, whatever, seem to forget the role of one Dave Semenko. It wasn't figure skating.
  100. R Miller from Halifax, Canada writes: Montreal Canadiens, twenty four Cups...

    Very little hooliganism except when absolutely necessary -- fans in the stands excluded.

    Cheers
    • Posted 07/07/08 at 10:17 PM EST |