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BEIJING - Beijing is surely one of the world's great cities: vital, energetic, inexhaustible. But the 500,000 foreigners who visit Beijing for the Olympics next month will see it at its worst. This summer, the life is being slowly sucked out of it.
China's capital city is being sanitized and sterilized to within an inch of its life. It's being cleaned and tidied and swept up to the point where it feels like an artificial replica of itself.
Beijing's soul was always its street life: its hawkers and vendors, its ethnic minorities from every corner of China, its street food, its giant flashing neon signs and semi-legal businesses, its recycling men in bicycle carts, its migrant workers and foreign backpackers, its late-night music clubs and cheap sidewalk restaurants.
All of that is gone now, or in danger of disappearing. The Olympic visitors are supposed to admire Beijing's majestic buildings and luxury malls without anything unpredictable or quirky to disturb the view. The city is turning into Singapore: tightly controlled and regulated by the official taste masters of the state.
There is almost a Potemkin Village feeling to the impressive facades on the wide avenues now. The hawkers and vendors are gone, swept from the streets, replaced by luxurious new shopping malls. Many of the foreign tourists and most of the backpackers are gone, unable to get visas or deterred by the heavy paperwork. University students are under pressure to leave Beijing for the summer. The biggest universities are closed to all visitors for two months. Thousands of migrant workers and ethnic minorities are being forced out of the city.
The neon rooftop signs are gone, and nobody is permitted to rent a billboard unless they are an official Olympic sponsor. Many of the sidewalk cafes have been forced indoors. A growing number of Beijing's music clubs have been banned from holding live-music shows because of licensing rules that were never enforced until now. Bars have been ordered to close by 2 a.m. every night. Streets have been prettified with artificial trees, which are apparently considered more beautiful than real trees.
Olympic spectators are required to fit into this aesthetic autocracy. The latest rules, reported this week by China's state news agency, orders the Olympic spectators to “dress normally” without any commercial logos and without “identical patterned clothes” if they are watching in a group. The report said the rules “must ensure an orderly, happy and harmonious environment.” It also disclosed that 800,000 Chinese volunteers have been taught China's official four-step cheer, “in unified sportswear, with easy-to-learn slogans.”
A few of Beijing's urban reforms were long overdue. A canal in my neighbourhood, which stank of stagnant water for years, has now been nicely cleaned up and actually looks enticing for boats. On Sanlitun Bar Street, the pimps who harassed male visitors have been finally forced out, after being ignored by police for years. The vendors of illegal pirated goods are largely shut down, although some have simply shifted to back rooms where they are less visible.
But most of the changes are designed to please the government, not the visitors. The entire spectacle, in fact, is intended to create an impressive image on television. If you're watching the Olympics on television, you are the intended target audience. If you happen to be visiting Beijing during the Olympics, you won't really understand what this city is all about.
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Pal Hal from Canada writes: Sounds as charming as a Richmond hill strip mall....all hail the RMB!!!....
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The Central Screwtinizer from Ottawa, Canada writes: That's the last straw...I'm staying home and watching the Olympics on the HD surround sound with replays, on the deck with a cold one, and the BBQ. My gosh I'll save myself $20,000 i.e. air fare to China for two, hotel, meals and tickets...
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The Central Screwtinizer from Ottawa, Canada writes: ...did I mention skipping the part about being in a jet for 48 hours...
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Broken Record from Victoria, B.C., Canada writes: I expect Vancouver will be similarly sanitised for the 2010 games, though might be harder for them to be as ruthless about it as the Chinese authorities can be. A Potemkin Village - a great term not used nearly as often as it should be - never fails to fool the gullible masses but I don't think the masses are interested in scratching the surface anyway.
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Fair Justville from toronto, Canada writes: The Central Screwtinizer from Ottawa, it takes only 12 hour flight from Toronto to Beijing if you go with AC direct flight.
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Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: There will be no dogs on the menus of Beijing restaurants for the duration of the Olympics. Thousands will be slaughtered the day after it is all over. What a celebration that will be.
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Old Sam Dark and Dirty from Republic of Newfoundland, Canada writes: Don't worry, once the Olympics are over they can go back to being a poluted sespool of corruption and iron fist rule.
They may be able to make some cosmetic changes now but the true country will be back soon enough- Posted 15/07/08 at 1:23 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Hypo Critic from Canada writes: They are just trying to mimic a Western city!! Thats the new Westernized China we wanted right?? Then why whine about it??
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Hypo Critic from Canada writes: Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: There will be no dogs on the menus of Beijing restaurants for the duration of the Olympics. Thousands will be slaughtered the day after it is all over. What a celebration that will be.
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Shadow, We slaughter thousands of Cattle everyday and celebrate it on our grill. For them, there is no difference between Cattle and a dog!!- Posted 15/07/08 at 1:33 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes:
Note there is an underscore in the first 4 set of links above between the words 'chi' and 'slagt...'- Posted 15/07/08 at 1:40 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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JOHNNY B GOOD from Canada writes: So you don't like it dirty, and you don't like it clean either. You are a born complainer.
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Tobin Manley from The Bronx, NYC, United States writes: Like a David Lynch film, all the juicy nasty stuff is simmering behind the facade.
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B W from Canada writes: As Inch Live I from Toronto, those links should come with a warning! I almost lost my lunch.
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Matthew D. from United States writes: I visited Beijing for 2 weeks at the end of June and was staying near the Olympic grounds. IMO, many aspects of the cleanup are welcome. Garish signs, dusty empty lots, broken sidewalks, and the general feeling of a tired land have been replaced with a more polished image, although I still don't have the impression that any of the streets reaches the level of a well done avenue or boulevard in North America.
Some new public bathrooms were noticably acceptable. I've often wondered if Chinese plumbers and builders have ever actually used a modern bathroom (with running water and flush toilets) judging by the previously dismal and disgusting state of all public and most private bathrooms. If anything, this one development will remove one barrier to China joining the first rank of nations.
The subway system has improved markedly. The network is fairly extensive. If I were to work in my company's Beijing office as I did for a week in 2006, I wouldn't have to take cabs to and from work - I could instead take a quite manageable ride on the subway.
The farther away from the Olympic site you venture, the more of the old messy and ugly Beijing you'll find. A bit of a loss yes but Beijing changed so much in the 20th century and was really dealt a bad hand (why did they have to tear down the wall and so many other landmarks, destroying 4 centuries of heritage?) that continued change and improvement is welcome imho. Were they to stay at the 1990s or 2000s level, that would be sad.
As for the hustle and bustle and ethnic minorities, despite hearing so much about the Uighurs, the only time I saw them hawking goods on the street was a 2004 trip to Kunming which is clear across the country. Walked by a few Xinjiang style restaurants and saw maybe one guy who was obviously Uighur there but really sad that I'm missing out on finding the street meat lamb kebabs that they're famous for selling.- Posted 15/07/08 at 2:27 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Michael Soft from Outerspace, Canada writes: RE: dog meat. It is equally uncivilized and disgusting to eat pizzas and burgers. Sadly we have them everywhere here in the west!
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Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: It is doubtful that bear-bile farming will be shut down for the duration of the Olympics.
It has been agreed by both traditional Chinese medicine and western medicine that there are many herbal and synthetic alternatives to bear bile, which are cheaper, safer, more effective, and do not rely on the torture of Moon Bears (7000 of them).
However, it seems that many people want the real thing, torture notwithstanding. And real bear bile is often so filled with pus and infection that it is probably not safe for human consumption.
See www.animalsasia.org (the website of the Animals Asia Foundation)- Posted 15/07/08 at 3:40 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Pamphleteer . from Canada writes: Beijing definitele feels sterile. Many hutongs have been bulldozed to make way for Western style urban planning. Rather depressing.
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Comments closed, censored, deleted or made to disappear from Mini Bushland, Canada writes: I recommend those of us who are still waiting for that first decent article on the Beijing Olympics, in the Globe, refer rather to the New York Times: "Architecture -- In Changing the Face of Beijing, a Look at the New China" (nytimes.com), by architecture critic NICOLAI OUROUSSOFF, and published: July 13, 2008. Don't miss the appended Multimedia (interactive graphic) "Architectural Monuments in a Reshaped Beijing", commented by Ouroussoff. --- A nice change away from Geoffrey York's obsessions, admiring Beijing's New Airport Terminal 3 and the CCTV Headquarters... among other breathtaking achievements. --- Congratulations, China, and all the best! Looking forward to the forthcoming Olympics, in Beijing.
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Michael Soft from Apple, Canada writes: "Pamphleteer . from Canada writes: Beijing definitele feels sterile. Many hutongs have been bulldozed to make way for Western style urban planning. Rather depressing."
Well maybe they took a lesson from Toronto, where only hotdog stands are allowed on the streets. Same flavour, same sauce, same price everywhere you go. So boring...- Posted 15/07/08 at 9:38 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: "The life is being slowly sucked out" of China's Moon Bears.
Many are incarcerated as living bile machines in tiny rusting cages no bigger than their bodies, for up to twenty years.- Posted 15/07/08 at 10:09 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Tracy C from Hong Kong writes: Old Sam Dark and Dirty from Republic of Newfoundland, Canada writes: Don't worry, once the Olympics are over they can go back to being a poluted sespool of corruption and iron fist rule. They may be able to make some cosmetic changes now but the true country will be back soon enough Just wondering - have you ever been to China before? It's funny how Canadians always complain about Americans being self-centered and thinking that people in Canada live in igloos, eat blubber, and use dog-sleds for transportation and yet here you all are stereotyping people in China just as Americans stereotype Canadians. I've been to China before, and yes, it's polluted, but I don't see dog meat for sale anywhere (bugs, I've seen before, but dogs - no). I'm not saying that dog meat doesn't exist in China, I'm sure it does in some restaurants serving it illegally, but it certainly isn't for sale in food stalls all over the streets. I myself have worked on the Guangzhou and Beijing metro lines. And I can safely say that no corruption was involved (with my aspect of work at least) And there's nothing wrong with cleaning up a city. If certain areas in North America was dirty (and I can think of a few places), would we be complaining about cleaning it up? If Beijing didn't clean up the city, I'm sure all of you would be complaining about the pollution, traffic, etc in the city. I actually think Toronto itself can learn from Beijing right now. The TTC system is outdated, and still using tokens and having the conductor tell passengers the next stop (as opposed to an automated system)! If you think North America is the best place to be to watch the olympics, that's your opinion. The Olympic committee chose Beijing over Toronto for the 2008 Olympics, didn't they?
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Al B from Toronto, Canada writes: They're pretty adept at making fake stuffs, so why not their capital...
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P cheng from ottawa, Canada writes: Tracy C from Hong Kong writes: I actually think Toronto itself can learn from Beijing right now. The TTC system is outdated, and still using tokens and having the conductor tell passengers the next stop (as opposed to an automated system)!
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That is why they keep applying the olympic. It will be a big event to force them to change.- Posted 15/07/08 at 10:35 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Canadian in China from Beijing, Canada writes: Tracy C, Dog meat used to be available in every quarter of Beijing. I've lived in numerous cities across the country where dog meat is eaten as a celebration of special friendship. Who cares? Heck, I even had some. It tastes like beef and makes you feel warm in the winter.
Honestly, get a grip. China has been comfortable with itself eating whatever it eats for a lot longer than your (or my) culture has even existed.
And I must say, if you didn't see dog meat (or dogs destined for meat) for sale, you must have spent all your time in your hotel wet bar drinking rum coke and eating peanuts and instant noodles.
As for Beijing...sanitized or Disney-ized are words that come to mind. The old Qianmen district has been completely knocked down and replaced with some cartoon version including an "old style" street car. Meaning, a functional, lively business and tourist district has been turned into some strange place to buy overpriced ice tea and ride a soon-to-be-broken down trolley.
The part I'm most choked about is that the lady who used to sell me breakfast from a little stand down the street isn't there anymore. In fact, based on the lineups she used to generate, seems like about 200 people are having to degrade their breakfast expectations every day. I'm hungry!- Posted 15/07/08 at 10:46 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: Canadian in China from Beijing writes: "I'm hungry!"
"Honestly, get a grip". The dogs and bears are hungrier than you.
And you are quite wrong about dog being eaten for centuries. This is a fairly recent phenomenon.- Posted 15/07/08 at 10:57 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: I wonder if shark's fin is still on the menu? I would assume so, even though many species of shark are endangered due to overfishing and "finning", whereby the dorsal fin is hacked off, and the living shark thrown overboard to die a slow and agonizing death.
But I undestand that shark's fin is one of the four traditional dishes in China, along with abalone (also endangered due to overfishing and black market catch). You can get both at the Four Seasons and the Shanghai Hilton.
It took much convincing by AAF, WWF, etc. before Disney World Hong Kong reversed its decision to serve shark fin soup at wedding banquets. The Disney Corp. realized that it had a huge responsibility to preserve and advance biodiversity on this planet.
Well done, Disney Corp. Walt would be proud.- Posted 15/07/08 at 11:24 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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The Iconoclast from Canada writes: Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes:
And you are quite wrong about dog being eaten for centuries. This is a fairly recent phenomenon.
It is not a recent phenomenon. Dog has been on the menu for centuries in China , Korea and other Asian countries.- Posted 16/07/08 at 1:04 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Canadian in China from Beijing, Canada writes: Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: The dogs and bears are hungrier than you.
Uh...Thanks...?
and - Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: And you are quite wrong about dog being eaten for centuries.
Well, if you'd read carefully, I didn't say Chinese had eaten dog for centuries. I was quite general in my statment, but it certainly need not exclude dogs or snakes or silkworms or other critters.- Posted 16/07/08 at 2:28 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Wilma De Bruyn from Toronto, Canada writes: Michael Soft from Apple, Canada writes: "Pamphleteer . from Canada writes: Beijing definitele feels sterile. Many hutongs have been bulldozed to make way for Western style urban planning. Rather depressing."
Well maybe they took a lesson from Toronto, where only hotdog stands are allowed on the streets. Same flavour, same sauce, same price everywhere you go. So boring...
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Now if only our politicians would eat the same meals of hotdogs through the week as the tax slaves of Ontario, that would save a small portion of the money that the Politicians throw away from the
taxpayers of Ontario.
The question is?? What's in the Hotdog???Or dare we ask????- Posted 16/07/08 at 7:25 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Pamphleteer . from Canada writes: The question is?? What's in the Hotdog???Or dare we ask????
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Cow hair, snout, hoof, kidney, liver, probably some mashed up bone, tendons, pig skin, traces of rodent- Posted 16/07/08 at 8:11 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Vanessa McLaughlin from Moncton, Canada writes: The ignorance and greed of man will kill us all.
"Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions, because eating all those animals lead to degenerative - and fatal - health conditions like heart disease, kidney disease and cancer. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are being killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth."
~Preface from Old MacDonald's Factory Farm,
by C. David Coates- Posted 16/07/08 at 9:14 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Tom G from Canada writes: Having just returned from Beijing a mere 3 weeks ago, I was amazed at its transformation--especially after living in other parts of China before that. Clean it is, but it doesn't feel like an Asian city anymore. A city of automatons bent on serving a higher order--forced or not--is more like it. The Chinese government's idea of a 21st Century model town writ large is a grotesque mockery of the dynamic Chinese spirit and the country's astonishing culture and history. What they've done is create a plastic museum of a Chinese city filled to the brim with Madame Tussaud's Wax Museum mannequins. Forbidden city indeed.
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Hypo Critic from Canada writes: Shadow of the Bear: Do you know how many companies in Canada still test products on Animals?? I know over 4 labs just in Toronto torturing animals so we can have vibrant skin!! Clean your backyard first before whining about China!
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Overtaxed and underlaid from Canada writes: Pyongang 2008! Complete with the rehearsed mass cheers.
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Frank The Tank from Argentina writes: Don't mind Shadow of the Bear, he's just ignorant and uneducated .....and obviously pretty gullible and lonely.
His only friends are animals so let him take a stand for them.... lmao- Posted 16/07/08 at 10:10 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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The Iconoclast from Canada writes: As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes:
In China and Korea, dogs that are culled for meat ....And to think that someone awarded both of these nations the Olympics.
We slaughter seals and horses...and to think that someone awarded Canada the Olympics.- Posted 16/07/08 at 10:24 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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ian smith from Canada writes: Can't G&M send someone over there to write a more unbiased and objective story?! Every story out of China from this York fellow was cheap-shot or fire-fanning. I bet he's proud of it.
One more time I saw his name I think I'm gonna puke.- Posted 16/07/08 at 10:44 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes:
'The Iconoclast from Canada' wrote: "As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes:
In China and Korea, dogs that are culled for meat ....And to think that someone awarded both of these nations the Olympics.
We slaughter seals and horses...and to think that someone awarded Canada the Olympics."
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The difference between Canada and countries like China and Korea is that when we do slaughter an animal for food, it's done as quickly and painlessly as possible. Unlike in China and Korea where dogs are beaten with clubs (slowly) because the Chinese and Koreans believe that the more pain that the animal suffers prior to its death, the more tasty the meat.- Posted 16/07/08 at 10:46 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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P cheng from ottawa, Canada writes: The Iconoclast from Canada writes: As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes:
In China and Korea, dogs that are culled for meat ....And to think that someone awarded both of these nations the Olympics.
We slaughter seals and horses...and to think that someone awarded Canada the Olympics.
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Actually, I visited Lisbon (Portunage) in 1999. The store placed the whole pig in the window (small size as a big size, 40 lbs). When I first saw them, I don't know what they were because no hair and the nose is not big and long.
Anyway, what is the difference between a dog and a pig. If store can put the whole pig in the window, why they cannot do it with dog.- Posted 16/07/08 at 10:47 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes:
'ian smith from Canada (really China)' wrote:
"...One more time I saw his name I think I'm gonna puke."
Nice pidgen English there 'ian'. So how long have you been on the payroll of the CCP? You can always tell a CCP shill on these threads, their pidgen English gives them away every time ("One more time I saw his name" - sounds like the assembly instructions that came with my barbecue).- Posted 16/07/08 at 10:49 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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P cheng from ottawa, Canada writes: As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes: The difference between Canada and countries like China and Korea is that when we do slaughter an animal for food, it's done as quickly and painlessly as possible. Unlike in China and Korea where dogs are beaten with clubs (slowly) because the Chinese and Koreans believe that the more pain that the animal suffers prior to its death, the more tasty the meat.
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Do you have any proof or just your propaganda?- Posted 16/07/08 at 10:51 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes:
'P cheng from ottawa, Canada' wrote:
"...If store can put the whole pig in the window, why they cannot do it with dog."
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Because in a civilized society, we don't beat animals with clubs (slowly) believing that the more pain that the animal suffers prior to its death, the more tasty the meat. What part of that don't you understand?- Posted 16/07/08 at 10:53 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Cyrus Of Persia from Canada writes: It's all about saving face.
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P cheng from ottawa, Canada writes: As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes: You need to check the slaugther house in Canada, too.
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As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes:
'P cheng from ottawa, Canada (really China) wrote: "You need to check the slaugther house in Canada, too."
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Again, you ignorant and uneducated CCP shill - what part of 'we don't beat animals with clubs (slowly) believing that the more pain that the animal suffers prior to its death, the more tasty the meat' don't you understand?- Posted 16/07/08 at 11:05 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes:
Isn't it amazing how completely stupid these CCP shills that troll in these threads are? Any minute now they and their comrades (lead by 'White Jade from 'Ireland') will begin to accuse me of 'hate crimes' and post S. 318 and S. 319 of the Criminal Code of Canada. If that doesn't work, they'll all complain to the G&M moderator saying that I am 'bashing' China (better 'bashing China' than slowly bashing a dog or cat's brains in believing that the amount of pain that the animal feels prior to its agonizing death is somehow related to the taste of the meat, I say).- Posted 16/07/08 at 11:13 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Bruce Lee from Canada writes: LOL.
I am bloody confused. Am I a Chinese? Because I have never heard about whatever "As Inch Live I from Toronto" said. "the more pain that the animal suffers prior to its death, the more tasty the meat"? Bllsht!
There are 1.3 billion ppl in China, some of them eat dogs especially northern part, some of them including me don't. That's part of their culture if they eat dog meat. Korean eat dog meat as well.
What makes you think you are morally superior by eating pork or beef or turkey? Muslim don't eat pork, vegetarians don't eat meat at all, I do not see them criticize you guys.
Anyway, lots of stuff in your comments are plain lies or your imagination. Some of the pictures you posted are fake as well. Or you are cheated by somebody else....
Have a good day. And I am gonna enjoy some tortured-before-died-like-you-see-on-youtube fried chicken for lunch.- Posted 16/07/08 at 11:29 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Fish Lips from Canada writes: nobody's making stereotyped generalizations here at all!
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Bruce Lee from Canada writes: And you should calm down: "As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes: Isn't it amazing how completely stupid these CCP shills that troll in these threads are?"
Anybody disagree with you are "shill"? LOL. This is an article about China, what's wrong with Chinese-make-comments-on-articles-about-China???- Posted 16/07/08 at 11:33 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Matthew D. from United States writes: Enough with the dog meat discussion!
I'd prefer donkey meat any time of day. I think there's a saying 'in heaven there is dragon meat, on earth there is donkey meat'. As long as that's still on the menu I'll be happy.- Posted 16/07/08 at 11:36 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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J Snow Clone from O-town, Canada writes: Fanatics only keep thier comments coming if you take the bait. In this case the bait would probably have dog meat.
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P cheng from ottawa, Canada writes: As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes:
'P cheng from ottawa, Canada (really China) wrote: "You need to check the slaugther house in Canada, too."
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Again, you ignorant and uneducated CCP shill - what part of 'we don't beat animals with clubs (slowly) believing that the more pain that the animal suffers prior to its death, the more tasty the meat' don't you understand?
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Whenever you does not have any good point to raise, you keep bring up the CCP shill.
Do you see my point? It is people choice to pick what they want to eat. If they pick dog instead of pig or cow. It is their choice. You also know that there is religon that they does not allow to eat pig or cow. What is their choice. It sesms that you are also uneducated too. You need to understand why people eat dog at the beginning first.
Personally, I only eat meat half of time because it is good for my health. I never eat cat, dog or bird before becasue I had those as a pet. But, I has never against other people doing it because it is their choice.- Posted 16/07/08 at 11:59 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: P Cheng from Ottawa: No one is starving for bear bile. And yet 7000 Moon Bears live a living hell on bear farms in China as bile machines. The torture is obscene. Many die from infection or madness.
The continued tradition of consuming shark's fin soup will do much to contribute to predicted ocean collapse by 2048. Sharks are a top-of-the-food-chain predator. Without them, ocean health and biodiversity will decline. And yet, China continues to overfish them, and to practice "finning", whereby the fin is cut off and the living shark thrown overboard. Sometimes "tradition" really isn't worth it.- Posted 16/07/08 at 12:08 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Steve Just Steve from Canada writes: P cheng from ottawa, Canada writes: As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes: 'P cheng from ottawa, Canada (really China) wrote: "You need to check the slaugther house in Canada, too." ------------------------------ Again, you ignorant and uneducated CCP shill - what part of 'we don't beat animals with clubs (slowly) believing that the more pain that the animal suffers prior to its death, the more tasty the meat' don't you understand? ============> Whenever you does not have any good point to raise, you keep bring up the CCP shill. Do you see my point? It is people choice to pick what they want to eat. If they pick dog instead of pig or cow. It is their choice. You also know that there is religon that they does not allow to eat pig or cow. What is their choice. It sesms that you are also uneducated too. You need to understand why people eat dog at the beginning first. Personally, I only eat meat half of time because it is good for my health. I never eat cat, dog or bird before becasue I had those as a pet. But, I has never against other people doing it because it is their choice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. So basically, you are saying that you don't have a problem with someone beating an animal to death. See, I know it's hard for you to understand so I will go slowly; IT. IS. NOT. ABOUT. WHAT. THEY. EAT. IT. IS. ABOUT. HOW. THEY. BRUTALLY. TORTURE. ANIMALS. TO. DEATH. Get it now, or do I need to break out the finger puppets? Jeeeeze
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Steve Just Steve from Canada writes: It has also been shown in psychological studies that people who have no compunction about hurting animals will also have no trouble hurting people either.
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Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: There is also the fur industry, quite separate from food.
It is estimated that two million animals per year are slaughtered in horrific ways in China, not for food, but for fur. These animals include dogs, cats, raccoons, raccoon dogs, rabbits, and many other fur-bearing mammals. Most are skinned alive, after having their paws cut off first. There have been many undercover videos taken for proof of this. The animals are thrown onto a discarded heap after being skinned, and some are still breathing for several minutes afterward.
Where is this fur exported to? To Canada, of course, since it is banned almost everywhere else. It enters Canada completely unlabelled, in the form of trim on clothing, gloves & slippers, pet toys and accessories, and trinkets of all kinds. Consumers are duped into thinking it is fake fur.
Shame on Canada for providing such a market for unspeakable toroture.
According to the Canadian government, nothing can be done to stop the import of this fur while the seal kill continues. Canada, of course, must abide by World Trade Organization rules, even if those rules trump animal welfare.- Posted 16/07/08 at 12:31 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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ian smith from vancouver, Canada writes: As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes:
"Nice pidgen English there 'ian'. So how long have you been on the payroll of the CCP? You can always tell a CCP shill on these threads, their pidgen English gives them away every time ("One more time I saw his name" - sounds like the assembly instructions that came with my barbecue). "
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Hey, dude! If there's one thing I won't stand, it's some full-of-it lowlife who tired to diss/mock my name. So any white guy who has tons of Chinese friends and is friendly to them and their causes is an impersonator or on CCP payroll. What grade did you drop out of?!
I wonder who pays you to be so passionate on this site.- Posted 16/07/08 at 12:31 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes:
Steve - 'P cheng' doesn't understand that the practice of torturing an animal before slaughtering it alive in order to 'maximize the flavour of the meat' is wrong because where 'P cheng' is from, life is cheap and the masses are ignorant, godless and without morals or scruples.
The only thing that they understand is brute force.- Posted 16/07/08 at 12:33 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Fair Justville from toronto, Canada writes: i think mr. york is really smart. he knows much more people would read the comments on his articles than his articles anyway. so why is he so serious about what he writes? garbage in garbage out, noone really cares, neither does his boss.
his job is just starting a topic. let the readers to use their imaginations to complete the rest of his unfinished part.- Posted 16/07/08 at 12:37 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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P cheng from ottawa, Canada writes: Steve Just Steve from Canada: It totally depends on how they do it. Do they beat the animal before eat them? From the picture, it does not see that dog are being beaten.
Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: you had the point about shark's fin but the price goes up. Actually, you think that the soup serverd in Hong Kong Disney is real. It is just freak one. The real one is v. expense.
As Inch Live I from Toronto "Whilst some countries in Asia such as Hong Kong, the Philippines and Taiwan have banned the practice of dog eating, evidence shows that in China, the biggest dog eating country in the world, it continues to thrive." It is true and do you think that they will not change as more people treat the dog as a pet.- Posted 16/07/08 at 12:41 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes:
China = Axis of evil- Posted 16/07/08 at 12:43 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes:
Chinese Proverb: 'You Close the Door Before Beating Your Dog'- Posted 16/07/08 at 12:50 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: P Cheng from Ottawa: Thank you for your comments. You are absolutely correct that as younger generations in China understand better the companionship (and usefulness) of dogs and cats, that their consumption for food will hopefully decline. Education is the key, and it is progressing, thanks to many organizations and a developing economy.
You mention shark fin soup, and how expensive it is. I know this. I also know that there are many wealthy people in China who are able to pay whatever it costs. The same goes for tiger skins, tiger penis, abalone, etc. Endangered species should not be available for consumption, even by the very rich. Again, education is the key to understanding the importance of preserving biodiversity.
It took much convincing by AAF, WWF, etc. before Disney World Hong Kong reversed its decision to serve shark fin soup at wedding banquets. The Disney Corp. realized it has a huge responsibility to preserve biodiversity, and their decision to not serve shark fin is a positive message for all of Asia and the rest of the world.- Posted 16/07/08 at 12:54 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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The Iconoclast from Canada writes: As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes: Unlike in China and Korea where dogs are beaten with clubs ....
Just for you Inch - clubbing of baby seals:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-9rbIBprV0- Posted 16/07/08 at 12:55 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Vancouver Canadian from vancouver, Canada writes: Beijing has been changing for years. Read "Peking" by Juliet Bredon... written in 1921... talks about all the changes going on then too...
When I was in Beijing, there was a joke... "If you dont like beijing, dont worry, there will be a new version next month" We'll see what happens after the olympics...- Posted 16/07/08 at 12:56 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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P cheng from ottawa, Canada writes: As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes:
Steve - 'P cheng' doesn't understand that the practice of torturing an animal before slaughtering it alive in order to 'maximize the flavour of the meat' is wrong because where 'P cheng' is from, life is cheap and the masses are ignorant, godless and without morals or scruples.
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You can say what you want to say. Do you see what the cow is salugthered in Canada? How many are they "aged"?- Posted 16/07/08 at 1:30 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Vanessa McLaughlin from Moncton, Canada writes: It's nice to start seeing these issues being talked about more openly, rather then just among a select few who have taken the interest and morale high ground to educate themselves. China and Korea I do agree are among the most terrible for treatment towards animals. The ideals and morales are for the most part nothing to be proud of when it comes to their ignorance of animals. Much of which has to do with them being brought up engulfed in this "tradition". However, you have to think that even though they are accustomed to this cruel behaviour, they HAVE to know it is somehow wrong. An animal screams of pain just like humans. Whether it is a cat, dog, pig or mouse in a test lab. All feel pain and we should favour one over another. In Canada we beat seals, starve lobsters for over a month because the scraps in the tank in unattractive to the public, have puppy/kitty mills, test labs etc.. as does the states and many other countries around the world. China however does much of what we do in the public, on their streets for all to see. We hide behind doors (except the seals and lobster). And China takes it that extra step, actually several steps, by beating before death (ridiculous), and killing off already endangered species because a tiger penis will give them more vertility.... its all madening.... but while 2% of the population is willing to stand up and make a difference, the other 98% is killing us all. Time will tell.
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B Lam from Canada writes: As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes:
Chinese Proverb: 'You Close the Door Before Beating Your Dog'
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I had no idea what you were referring to. Could you post that in Chinese?- Posted 16/07/08 at 1:45 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Steve Just Steve from Canada writes: I'm surprised you guys haven't brought up your usual counter arguments
such as:
West is just as bad. blah blah
Treatment of Aboriginals.
USA / GWB/ PM Harper, evil americans blah blah.
British and American imperialism blah blah
Boycott Vancouver blah blah
Wallmart /dollar store blah blah blah
Buncha other stuff that has nothing to do with argument, blah blah
Did I miss anything?- Posted 16/07/08 at 1:53 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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P cheng from ottawa, Canada writes: Steve Just Steve from Canada, I agree with you on that. It is the reason I become less meat-eater and stop eating lobster and live fish. But, as I said above, it is their choice to eat dog instead of pig/cow. At least, they stop doing it during the game to respect the others. It is just the same as the smoking rule. As long as the smokers are not smoking in front of the non-smoking. I don't have the problem. Smoker and non--smoker had their own freedom of choice as long as they don't take the right of the others.
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Northern Dancer from Outside of Toronto, Canada writes: I wonder if The Dalai Lama is preparing to unleash a torrent of street spitters during the Olympics. I was in the Bejing airport last week and they appeared to be practising.
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Bill Hopkins from London, Canada writes: The snaitization of Beijing is a shame and really very stupid. People (at least some people) like to travel in order to see what a city is really like. Twenty years ago I was in Beijing and thoroughly enjoyed every moment. It was a fascinating and vibrant city. I especially enjoyed one visit to a market near the forbidden city. As the only westerner in the market at the time, many of the locals were drawn near and, as I considered a purchase, joined in to help ensure that I got the right quality and did not pay more than it was worth. My wife bicycled from the hotel to the forbidden city and was asked by family (a soldier, his wife, and child to use their camera to take their picture for them. We didn't speak Chinese and nobody we encountered spoke English, but still we managed to communicate and we encountered nothing but friendship. This, of course, was before the Chinese economy took off and there were few private autos and the city was actually alot smaller than it is now. It's a pity that Olympic visitors will not be able to share our experiences.
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Fair Justville from toronto, Canada writes: for those who complains about Beijing's clean up, please never clean up your house before you host a party because you will be too fake and try to hide who you are.
for those who complains about Beijing's clean up, you can always see the true picture after the Olimpics. some people always are so jealous when they see the other part of grass is greener.
P.S. losers always tend to redeem their self esteem by bashing something/even some people they consider inferior.
A jourlist stationed in Beijing from Germany's Mirror magazine complained he has to continuously send back negative not objective reports on China otherwise his colleagues back home would call him nuts and his articles would be rejected. their logic is they have to be consistent with other media on China to keep readers happy. how pathetic!!!- Posted 17/07/08 at 12:19 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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canadian observing from France writes: I think the real issue is not about whether one can eat dog in a Chinese restaurant or not. For me, it is about the Grand hypocracy of this Olympic games. The Chinese government are fabricating a harmonious, sanitized Beijing, meanwhile hundreds of thousands of people have been made homeless in the process. The Chinese government continues to wreak environmental havoc throughout the country. And they continue to provide arms to the likes of the Zimbawean and Sudanese governments so they can carry out genocide. Ah, yes.... all the while I listen to other Chinese Canadians (who would no more live in China than fly to the moon) go on about how only those who have never visited this wonderful bastion of harmony and peace called China, would ever criticize it.
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L Chang from Ontario, Canada writes: To As Inch Live I from Toronto and Steve Just Steve from Canada: you are not animal lover. You just use every opportunity to bash China while you ignore others with similar issues. You call others as CCP shills when others disagree with you or when you lose an argument. As usual, you select one-side sources to support your biased positions. You perhaps need to get a life of love and not hatred of others.
Everyone should become a vegetarian if you are concerned with animal cruelty. The horrible live of factory farmed pigs, the cruelty of cow slaughter in our slaughter house for meat, the cruelty of cow slaughter in Indian slaughter house for leather, chicken and turkey slaughter of our chicken farm industry, the dolphin and whales massacre in Japan and Peru, the seal hunts in Canada, etc., etc. Just Goggle or Yahoo search, you will find numerous stories and sites of animal suffering around the world. Here are some stories that may encourage you to eat less meat and more vegetables: http://www.animalsuffering.com/animalcruelty.html; http://www.hsus.org/protectseals.html; http://www.animalsvoice.com/PAGES/writes/editorial/essays/farmed/leavittcowslaughter.html; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2188876.stm;- Posted 17/07/08 at 12:23 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Overtaxed and underlaid from Canada writes: wow As Inch Live I.. shut up already.
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Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: It is always amazing to see some guys like "Steve Just Steve" and "As Inch Live I" using fake issues like animal treatments to demonize Chinese people. The proposition "If you treat animals well, then you will treat people well" is such a fake, IMHO, considering that Hitler as a dog lover has no hesitation in slaughtering millions of Jews.
As for some people criticizing the sanitizing of Beijing, would you not clean up your house while you are welcoming guests visiting your home? Having said this, I personally think that the whole Olympic effort is a complete waste of time and money, Chinese government and some good portion of Chinese population are just over-doing it.- Posted 16/07/08 at 5:11 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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P cheng from ottawa, Canada writes: Bill Hopkins from London, Canada writes: Totally agree with you. My first visit is 1979 and the second one is 1997. It had a lot of change during the period. I cannot think about it now beacuse what happened in the last 10 years.
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P cheng from ottawa, Canada writes: Fair Justville from toronto, Canada writes:
A jourlist stationed in Beijing from Germany's Mirror magazine complained he has to continuously send back negative not objective reports on China otherwise his colleagues back home would call him nuts and his articles would be rejected. their logic is they have to be consistent with other media on China to keep readers happy. how pathetic!!!
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That was an article in last weekend's National Post. It wrote similar to "Everybody expect the governing party is also corrupted and inefficincy. The media is only expected to report the postive thing". Do you see any positive reporting in any newspaper today? That is the culture. Like it and read it or skip it. It is your choice.- Posted 17/07/08 at 5:45 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: Over the past few years, the Chinese government has been approached by the Animals Asia Foundation, and by governments such as Australia, the UK and the EU, about the possibility of shutting down the bear-bile farms before the 2008 Olympics, in light of the torture these bears are subjected to, and in light of the fact that there are many herbal and synthetic alternatives to bear bile which are cheaper, safer and more effective. With the Olympics so close on the horizon, it does not look like this goal will be achieved. This is very disappointing, but many people around the world still have hope that the government and people of China will, one day very soon, see the light for these Moon Bears. Equally disappointing is Canada's refusal to stop the import of dog and cat fur from China, and to bring it to Canadians unlabelled. The fact that Canada provides a market for such cruelty is inexcusable. That Canada still uses leg-hold traps and conibear traps is inexcusable. That Canada still has inhumane slaughter houses is inexcusable. Our flag has a lot of blood on it, and I refuse to salute it until Canada can truly call itself a humane society. My father is a Canadian veteran (overseas 1941-45). I speak on his behalf, as well as my own.
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Debra Orton from Solihull, United Kingdom writes: China is no way perfect with such a way to go to reach our idealist ideas in the west! Bashing baby seals over the head with clubs, oh yeh that's the way to go, then together with friends {oh no wrong word, allies} invading countries all over the world and killing their people and their children in the name of peace. Or worse still not intervening in countries where there is no fiscal gain for the western friends {oh no sorry, allies} China bash all you like, but people in glass houses should not throw stones {old english proverb}
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Debra Orton from Solihull, United Kingdom writes: me again, I almost forgot Darfur, yes China is doing the same as the west right in front of the ineffectual UN peace keeping force...why..because they are doing the same as we are in the west in in Iraq....can someone tell me the difference whether it 's dog or cat meat, seal culling or invading countires to pillage them of their natural resources ie OIL.......There is no difference whatsoever....So I am back to people in glasshouses should not throw stones????
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Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: White Jade from Ireland: Why are there 7000 Moon Bears incarcerated on bear farms in China, in tiny rusting cages no bigger than their bodies, scraping for something to eat, in a crush cage, whereby their bodies are forced to the lowest level possible, in order to scrape what sustenance they possibly can, from a ground level, scraping their teeth and claws in the process, all the while in a "full-metal jacket", whereby their bile is dripped into a bucket?
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Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: The definition of a "crush cage" is that it flattens the bear body, so that it cannot move. This way it is easier for the bear farmer to extract the bile, pus-filled and all. And the bear must perservere in order to somehow feed itself through the floor of its cage, in a prostrate position, for months, or even years, in this position.
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Chris Knight from Shanghai, China writes: As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes: We also don't send the bill for the bullet to the individual's surviving family.
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Neither do the Chinese, idiot. Nowadays, the preferred method of execution is by lethal injection, not by firing squad. Also, the sending of the bill for the bullet is an urban myth. The Chinese have never sent a bill for an executioner's bullet to the family of the deceased.
You are a complete and utter fool; and before you start labelling ME as a CCP shill, I was born in Halifax, educated all across Canada, have lived and/or worked in almost every province, AND served 7 years in the Canadian Armed Forces protecting the rights and freedoms that dipsh*ts like you enjoy.- Posted 24/07/08 at 2:19 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: White Jade from Ireland: I have just made my annual contribution to the Animals Asia Foundation of $2000.00 Canadian, to help shut down bear-bile farming in China.
Perhaps you could do the same, instead of spewing your hatred, which achieves absolutely nothing.- Posted 17/07/08 at 11:36 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: I am upping this year's contribution to the Animals Asia Foundation to $5000.00 Canadian. It is not a problem for me. I want these Moon Bears freed before the 2008 Olympics in Beijing.
Any objections, White Jade?- Posted 18/07/08 at 12:07 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes:
What's the matter, 'White Jade'? Cat got your tongue? ; )- Posted 18/07/08 at 11:07 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: White Jade from Ireland: As a concerned Canadian, I took the time and effort over the last few years to gather over 6000 Canadian signatures on petitions to ask for an end to bear-bile farming in China before the 2008 Olympics.
These petitions were sent to the Animals Asia Foundation, who forwarded them to Beijing.
No response from Beijing, and the horrors of bear-bile farming continue.
What say you, White Jade?- Posted 18/07/08 at 12:35 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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lynn R from Canada writes: Can someone tell me why my post replying to As Inch Live I from Toronto got deleted? because I said something nice about China , which by the way is the truth as well?
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Shadow of the Bear from Canada writes: lynn R from Canada: Many posts have mysteriously disappeared from this forum, including posts from White Jade from Ireland, posts from As Inch Live I from Toronto, as well as others.
It would seem that there is an unknown censor at work here.- Posted 18/07/08 at 1:26 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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White Jade from Ireland writes: As Inch Live I from Toronto, Canada writes: Nice pidgen English there 'ian'.
Imbeciles with low intelligence think that if you speak with an accent, you think with an accent.- Posted 18/07/08 at 1:56 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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White Jade from Ireland writes: Debra Orton from Solihull, United Kingdom writes: me again,...There is no difference whatsoever....So I am back to people in glasshouses should not throw stones????
Couldn't agree with you more Debra. There is a concerted effort by certain Western organizations to prevent China from achieving equality too quickly - so these attacks by both the right and left are attempts to distract the gov't from advancing its society.
You'll notice most of the hate-China posters appear throughout the day, everytime there is a China post - most are probably unemployable and come on here as it's the only social interaction they'll ever have.- Posted 18/07/08 at 1:57 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Andyou XT from Toronto, Canada writes: In a nutshell, They are supercillious, always attemtping to be like others, so mock the weak and posture the strong; they are self-abased, so always pretending to be like the others, so ape the advanced and bury the traditional; they are susceptible and suspectable, alway conceiving to be itching, so be sleeplessly eager to seek where and who is saying sth. That is it.
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Carl Men from Canada writes: The valiant defenders of the globe still refuse to categorize this type of article as "China-Bashing". Truth hurt, I know, but accept it. Not that the reporter is wrong in saying Beijing has lost its livelihood, but the article itself has totally and completely exaggerated it to a point it is beyond what is acceptable. When reading the article, it feels like reading a Roman account of Han dynasty from the first century A.D. Sad to see that not much has changed in how people choose to view the world – from its own eyes. It is as if the Aristotle and his followers never existed. From this article, we see the very essence of cultural bias and intolerance, something that should never exist within our own standard. Everything in this article is promising an image of fully corrupted China; a China that stunk from every atom within it. That is not true. Not once, not twice, but over and over again was I asked wither I had worked as a child labourer in China. Such shame! It is one thing to ask out of curiosity, out of child’s willingness to learn. But where have these information come from? MEDIA! Every news article, liberal or conservative, is filled with these ethnical prejudice it makes one sick in the stomach when one learns the true extend of its infiltration. Here I was reading an article, trying its hardest at softening its tune as if it was a simple statement of fact, where in reality a manifesto of xenophobia. Well suck it up Canada. Beijing may not be as lively as you may like it, but it’s better than be unregulated so that you ma
