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Bush arrives in Beijing after chiding China

SIMON DENYER

Reuters

Latest comment posted at 10:00 AM EST 07/08/08

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  1. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: In Geoffrey York's blog, it says: 'The analysis, by U.S. professor Ashley Esarey, found that 61 per cent of Chinese blogs were critical of governments, corporations, celebrities or social trends. '

    By President Bush: 'The United States believes the people of China deserve the fundamental liberty that is the natural right of all human beings,'
  2. none of your business from leningrad, Russian Federation writes: Bush arrives in Beijing to be chided by China
  3. tulip7 R from woodbridge, Canada writes: He is really something!
  4. Cosmo Spacely from Canada writes: Mist...the new euphamism for smog.
  5. Dr Demento from Canada writes: We can only hope that he keeps his mouth shut for once . . .
  6. Andre Carrel from Salmo, Canada writes: He'll probably give a speech about Castro.
  7. agent sixtynine from Canada writes: There is absolutely no comparison between human rights in China and those in the US. I would choose a life in America over China any day. As would many throughout the world. Where do people like Billy Doyle come from? I can see that the Canadian education system has failed more than few.
  8. Stigs McPhooten from Canada writes:

    That Bush!! He's SUCH a chider!

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  9. Eye Sore from Dog Pound, Alberta, Canada writes: Memo to President Bush: Pot. Kettle. Black.
  10. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: President Bush: 'The United States believes the people of China deserve the fundamental liberty that is the natural right of all human beings,'

    Well said, Mr. Bush. Does this 'natural right of all human beings' apply to Iraqis and Afghanis? Those held in GITMO?
  11. Jeremy K from Canada writes: bush = hypocrite
  12. j boland from United States writes: Anyone who ever has a chance to talk to the Chinese leadership should minimally chide them over their goon like tactics of oppression of the masses. Anyone who simply shrugs shoulder and says 'who are we to criticize anyone' does not deserve the liberty that others have sacrificed to give, including to such ungrateful wretches. Other than the fact that the games are being held in a forceful police state, all is well with the world, and isn't that grand?
  13. Common Sense Matters from Canada writes: By ANGELA CHARLTON, Associated Press Writer Wed Aug 6, 4:37 PM ET

    PARIS - First, French President Nicolas Sarkozy threatened to boycott the opening of the Beijing Olympics. Then he backed down. Now, he is heaping praise on China's leadership and avoiding a meeting with the Dalai Lama.
  14. Common Sense Matters from Canada writes: AFP

    Published: Thursday, August 07, 2008

    PARIS - French authorities have banned rights groups from demonstrating outside the Chinese Embassy in Paris on Thursday and Friday, according to a ruling sent to media watchdog Reporters Without Borders (RSF).
  15. j boland from United States writes: At the moment, Canada should not be pontificating about freedom very much, not with its fascist 'Human Rights Commissions' in action across the land. Oddly, by their silence in face of these misnamed travesties of conscience, most Canadians seem to think that freedom of thought and speech is not very important. Uh, how about another cup of cafee and pass another timmie, eh?
  16. Kevin Wells from United States writes:
    j boland from United States writes: 'Other than the fact that the games are being held in a forceful police state, all is well with the world, and isn't that grand? '

    All is grand for some smug, sanctimonious, hypocritical Canadians whenever they can get in their daily bashing of America.
  17. Jesse Winger from Calgary SW, Canada writes: Kevin Wells from United States writes: 'All is grand for some smug, sanctimonious, hypocritical Canadians whenever they can get in their daily bashing of America.'

    It's OK to criticize Bush. He's the worst Pres in US history, non?

    By the way, it's not the same as criticizing Americans. Most Canadians recognize our southern neighbour as our closest friend.
  18. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: Kevin Wells from United States writes: 'All is grand for some smug, sanctimonious, hypocritical Canadians whenever they can get in their daily bashing of America. '

    Have the same feeling, Mr. Kevin Wells: All is grand for some smug, sanctimonious, hypocritical Canadians whenever they can get in their daily bashing of China.
  19. jay bow from ny, United States writes: when are canadians going to fix their human rights issues.... people can't get healthcare...
    http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=a70060e3-1caf-429a-9670-6d4f2a3d3509
  20. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: Jesse Winger from Calgary SW, Canada writes: 'By the way, it's not the same as criticizing Americans. Most Canadians recognize our southern neighbour as our closest friend. '

    Chinese is different, of course, Canadians will never regard Chinese as their lousiest friend.

    Canadians, you should focus on bashing Chinese instead.
  21. William Doyle from Prince George, Canada writes: agent sixtynine from Canada writes: There is absolutely no comparison between human rights in China and those in the US. I would choose a life in America over China any day. As would many throughout the world. Where do people like Billy Doyle come from? I can see that the Canadian education system has failed more than few...........................................
    .....................................................................I never said that the Chinese regime was a perfect regime. I like many others am saying that human rights in the USA and in places like Guantanamo Bay ( 100% controlled by the USA) have been turned back under kintergarden bush. The real test for bush and others leaders in his regime is how much they will travel in the world after January 2008 without them being concerned about being picked up for their war crimes and being shipped to the Hague. I understand that Kissenger is careful where he travels and Pinochet found out that his human rights record finally caught up to him.
  22. James C from Shenzhen, China writes: 'jay bow from ny, United States writes: when are canadians going to fix their human rights issues.... people can't get healthcare...'
    __________

    hey, guess what? we're trying. and we even have free and open debate on the topic.
  23. agent sixtynine from Canada writes: To my American friends, I apologize for the rude and ill-informed opinion of my fellow Canadians. Many are ignorant to the rest of the world and blinded by their prejudice.
  24. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: Cyril Rufus from Toronto writes: 'If the Americans really wanted to reflect a situation similar to the Chinese, they would conquer Canada by force, dispossess its people, permanently station an army of ten million here to control things, ban the playing of hockey and exterminate all of the beavers - and threaten and terrorize any who criticized their behavior in any way.'

    Aren't they did this to native indians? Americans did try that as well to Canada but were beaten back a few hundred year back.

    By the way, your own government recognize Chinese sovereign on Tibet and Xinjiang, along with a bunch of other provinces of China. CIA did try to fight a guarrela war with China in Tibet and that failed as well. Any better tricks left?
  25. Kevin Wells from United States writes:
    Jesse Winger from Calgary SW, Canada writes:
    'It's OK to criticize Bush. He's the worst Pres in US history, non?'

    Jesse, I don't agree Bush is the worst Prez in US history.

    In 2001, the USA was the victim of the worst terrorist attacks in history. It's hard to compare this situation with what other presidents had to cope with.

    In hindsight, could some things have been done differently? Of course, but 'Monday Morning Quaterbacking' is called that for a reason (criticizing the plays made by football teams during Sunday games).
  26. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: Thomas D'Arcy McGee, you keep saying that this Olympic is bringing shame to China. The problem is that, I don't feel that way. I am enjoying being bashed by all people like you.

    Bring it on, boys. A few insults will keep me excited.
  27. Bford C from Canada writes: Seems like Americans bash Americans more than Canadians do. Certainly there are far fewer of us. The amount of vitriol and lies hurled between the two parties' camps on 24 hour 'news' channels is truly astounding.

    China should improve human rights as the just and honourable thing to do for it's citizens no matter what the US says.

    And Kevin Wells really raised the level of discussion by the stereotyping of hypocrites. Nice.
  28. glop male from US, United States writes: The Olympic games are fun to watch.
    Sit back, relax and enjoy the games.
    They only come by every four years and have track and field, swimming, diving and many many others that you don't see everyday.
    Oh, what about Bush, or China?
    I saw 'dark knight' too. It is also a game just for the show.
    Easy, guys.
  29. Rain Couver from Canada writes: He could find Beijing on a map?
  30. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: agent sixtynine from Canada writes: 'To my American friends, I apologize for the rude and ill-informed opinion of my fellow Canadians. Many are ignorant to the rest of the world and blinded by their prejudice. '

    Would you also apologize for your Chinese friends or you don't have any Chinese friends, or you don't regard Chinese as your friends?

    What you said about Canadians are quite true though. This I blame it on the main stream media, not on their IQ's.
  31. Hugh Draper from Vancouver, Canada writes: agent sixtynine from Canada writes: To my American friends, I apologize for the rude and ill-informed opinion of my fellow Canadians. Many are ignorant to the rest of the world and blinded by their prejudice.

    Whereas most Americans are what?
  32. Kevin Wells from United States writes:
    Bford C from Canada writes:
    'And Kevin Wells really raised the level of discussion by the stereotyping of hypocrites. Nice. '

    Not everyone can be as fair and level-headed as you, Bford.
  33. jay bow from ny, United States writes: i figure USA will get 10 times as many gold medals than canada will get in total medal count
  34. COASTER--- EAST THAT IS from Canada writes: Kevin Wells from the USA , you voted for this idiot twice , didnt ya
    There must be something in the water down there to make you so stupid , twice you idiots voted this man in , America should be ashamed at being the worlds newest laughing stock.
  35. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: jay bow from ny, United States writes: 'i figure USA will get 10 times as many gold medals than canada will get in total medal count '

    This is kind of too little if you consider your population size is about 10 times bigger.
  36. Cyril Rufus from Toronto, Canada writes: Dear Springfire From ShenZheng

    You are absolutely right about the native peoples rights issue (albeit in an earlier century), and about the regognition of Chinese control of Tibet. Canadians will go a very long way to make money from an imperialist racist state.
  37. Rangzen Bhu from Toronto, Canada writes: A Tibetan protester fell 20 feet down after Chinese Consulate staff at San Francisco cut the rope She was holding for landing down.

    She was paralyzed and can't move her body and could only speak. Imagine what could they do to Tibetan people in Tibet and in China.
  38. jay bow from ny, United States writes: people all over the world want to live here - not canada
  39. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: Rangzen Bhu from Toronto, Canada writes: 'A Tibetan protester fell 20 feet down after Chinese Consulate staff at San Francisco cut the rope She was holding for landing down.'

    This is absolutely brutal. The American way: take out the rifle, aim, fire....

    Rangzen Bhu, why can't you guys just protest peacefully win the hearts of Chinese people first and deal with Chinese government later?
  40. achebe .... from Canada writes: Bush was correct to chide the Chinese on their dismal record of human rights - and he did it in diplomatic style by saying it Thailand and not in Beijing as that would have been truly insulting.

    however, there is no small amount of irony in Bush chiding any nation about rights violations when he has taken something as glorious as the Constitution of the United States, something that he is sworn to uphold and which rules America and Americans, and twist it for his own purposes.

    How can Republicans, people who define their political philosophy as wanting minimal government intrusion into their lives sit idly by as Bush allows for warrant-less wiretapping, the coercion of telecom companies into sharing customer records, the use of torture by the military! There is so much about the Bush administration that is offensive to those who hold the Constitution up high as a ideal to be achieved - and I as a dual citizen of Canada and the US find it reprehensible.
  41. Kevin Wells from United States writes:
    Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: jay bow from ny, United States writes: 'i figure USA will get 10 times as many gold medals than canada will get in total medal count '

    'This is kind of too little if you consider your population size is about 10 times bigger. '

    And with China's population of 1.4 billion that means that China will have to earn 5X as many medals as the USA in order for it not to 'lose face.'

    And we know Losing Face is the most important thing to immature tyrants....excuse me, I meant it's the most important thing to Chinese.
  42. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: jay bow from ny, United States writes: 'people all over the world want to live here - not canada '

    Not me! I want to leave in Canada, not USA! COASTER--- EAST THAT IS from Canada, you are right about the water Americans drinks, but I think it is because of McDonald's bergers.
  43. John Smith from Ottawa, Canada writes: Bush will arrive and be treated with smiles and courtesy. First and foremost, the Reds are pragmatic.
  44. The Wight from Canada writes: Who has more people in prison, at this exact moment?

    Seeing as in 2006, the US had 2.2 million people incarcerated and China had only 1.5 million people incarcerated, despite having four times the population, I'll put my money on the US.

    China rounds up protesters, the US moves them away from the site of the actual action of 'free speech zones' where they are out of sight, out of mind. Every week I see rafts of videos that hit youtube and stories that hit reddit of cops abusing their position in the US.

    The United States WAS the biggest liberal democracy, but if Americans want it to stay that way, they are headed in the wrong direction.
  45. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: Kevin Wells from United States writes:
    'And with China's population of 1.4 billion that means that China will have to earn 5X as many medals as the USA in order for it not to 'lose face.''

    We are used to 'lose face' in front of 'world', never mind this one, Kevin. And Americans are kind of BIG people, any heavy-weights related sports, Chinese just doesn't stand a chance.
  46. Rob L from Vancouver, Canada writes: What a liar you are, Rangzen Bhu, just like all Tibetan protesters.

    Here is the newspaper article on the incident.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/07/BA091269F9.DTL&hw=tibetan fell&sn=004&sc=458

    Go and read the FACTS:

    1) She was NOT paralyzed
    2) The incident is still under investigation, the police has NOT determined whether the rope was cut or not.
  47. John Smith from Ottawa, Canada writes: jay bow from ny, United States writes: i figure USA will get 10 times as many gold medals than canada will get in total medal count

    And I figure that all of the medals will go to Olympic participants, not speculative cellar dwellers who get off on vapid nationalist pronouncements.
  48. Proud Canadian from Canada writes: No one cares any longer what Bushwinkle has to say. Why is he not back feeding the pigs and cows at the Crawford barn yard instead of bothering people 1/2 way around the world.
  49. Kevin Wells from United States writes: Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes:

    'And Americans are kind of BIG people, any heavy-weights related sports, Chinese just doesn't stand a chance. '

    I figure the State-sponsored training camps where 5 and 6 six year olds are groomed to win olympic medals sort of compensates for the bigness of Americans.
  50. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: John Smith from Ottawa, Canada writes: 'Bush will arrive and be treated with smiles and courtesy. First and foremost, the Reds are pragmatic. '

    We will treat any visitors with smiles and courtesy. We definitely won't taser them, for sure. Even these bunch of comedians climbing the lampoles, we will just ask them to leave for good.

    Just let you guys know that Mr. Bush is a very popular star in China (I know you all wish raise your eyebrow, but this is how strange things are in China). I think that this is partly due to G.Bush senior.
  51. Chris Rafuse from Ottawa, Canada writes: kevin wells et al pulling out that tired, hackneyed response when non-Americans would dare criticize their glorious leader. ahhh, what's a feller to do, eh?

    mr. wells: if you don't care to hear what a majority of sensible people outside the US think of your current, God-forsaken executive branch, then why don't you just piss off? and if you don't share the view that the homicidal lunatic residing in the white house, responsable for arguably the worst military blunder of the last 2000 years, is not hands-down the worst president in the history of your republic, then you're an idiot. simple as that, easy peasy.

    you're welcome.
  52. agent sixtynine from Canada writes: Springfire From ShenZheng from China, you don't even recognize your own thorough indoctrination. How sad. But then again, you are probably being monitored right now.
  53. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: Kevin Wells from United States writes: 'I figure the State-sponsored training camps where 5 and 6 six year olds are groomed to win olympic medals sort of compensates for the bigness of Americans. '

    Haha.., definitely you eat too much McDonald's bergers with Canadian/British beef. Keep in mind that most Chinese families will go to McDonald's as a treat (never mind spending money on trainings, some state sponsorship is inevitable, although 5 or 6 years olds are a bit too young to me).
  54. jay bow from ny, United States writes: USA rules the world!!
    nobody cares about canada- they are basically non existant...which is why they hate us so much - its all jealousy
  55. L.B. MURRAY from !! from Canada writes: Comments are closed on the previous article which I just read on our Globe and Mail. ___________________________
    I fully agree with R. Carriere on the following :

    R. Carriere from Maritimes, Canada writes:

    'Mr. Bush pushed for a free press, free assembly and labour rights in China, and against its detentions of political dissidents, human rights advocates and religious activists.'

    OK? 'Patriot Act'- Extraordinary Rendition-Collateral Damage-Mexican Border-Gitmo-Abu Ghraib-controlled protest-Valerie Plame-Scotter Libby-The Military Commissions Act-2000 Election-Katrina-blocking 9/11 Commission-Haditha-10 Trillion Debt-Presidential Directive 51-Blackwater-EPA lies at 9/11 Ground Zero firefighters and first responders dieing off quickly.........................
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    Posted 07/08/08 at 8:13 AM EDT | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

    ____________________________________

    Thank you R. Carriere for reminding us.

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  56. Rangzen Bhu from Toronto, Canada writes: Rob L from Vancouver, Canada writes:

    Just see this video. She was there at the site of incidence.

    http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=147013

    What you mean by peaceful - praise the Chinese government for killing Tibetans. We are not violent like Chinese stabbing and beheading a fellow passenger or killing innocent Tibetan in Tibet for opposing to Chinese occupation and oppression.
  57. Zando Lee from Vancouver, Canada writes: ...and then, it's off to the Hague.....
  58. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: jay bow from ny, United States writes: 'USA rules the world!!
    nobody cares about canada- they are basically non existant...which is why they hate us so much - its all jealousy '

    I am comfortable for US to run the world (we can provide cash as runing a world is expensive business) as long as no collateral damage to my home. Canadians can contribute Maple Syrup to tea party for US and other important guys.
  59. Dr Demento from Canada writes: jay bow from ny, United States writes: 'nobody cares about canada- they are basically non existant...which is why they hate us so much'

    Any 'hate' is the result of Yankee hicks like yourself and Malcolm McCallum trolling Canadian newspaper websites and insulting Canadians.

    The USA has A LOT in common with China. They both have the death penalty, they both arrest, detain and torture prisoners without allowing them any legal recourse and they have the two highest incarceration rates on the planet . . .
  60. Fair Justville from toronto, Canada writes: the world is like a big mafia. the boss is always right. but many posters seem to not see this.
  61. Rangzen Bhu from Toronto, Canada writes: Springfire From ShenZheng from China

    This is no China so Chinese officials just can't treat human being as chicken chop them off.
  62. Kevin Wells from United States writes: Chris Rafuse from Ottawa, Canada writes:

    I know Americans who would agree with you that Bush is the worst prez in US history. In fact, my colleague in the office one door away likes to say that all the time. And I consider him a great American - at least as 'great' as any other American I know.

    So your effort to paint me as someone unable to handle ciriticism is a waste of time. I discuss these issues all the time with Americans. I've never spoken to anyone who agrees with everything I do.

    However, I do resent when either America (the country), Americans (citizens), or the American Government is compared to states such as China by ignorant, sanctimonious, hypocrites like yourself.

    And I try not to lump all Canadians into any one category as I am very well aware that not all, probably not even most Canadians, could be described as hateful as you are.

  63. R Miller from Halifax, Canada writes: Post of the day was from Eye Sore, Dog Pound, Alberta, Canada.

    It actually bears repeating...

    Memo to President Bush: Pot. Kettle. Black.

    Cheers
  64. Kevin Wells from United States writes:

    Clarification: in my last post I was responding to Chris Rafuse - he didn't write those things - I did.

    (the first line implies what follows was his words)
  65. Rob L from Vancouver, Canada writes: Are you so naive to think we should just take the words of the protester over the police report? I won't even respond to your other rambling.

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    Rangzen Bhu from Toronto, Canada writes: Rob L from Vancouver, Canada writes:

    Just see this video. She was there at the site of incidence.

    http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=147013

    What you mean by peaceful - praise the Chinese government for killing Tibetans. We are not violent like Chinese stabbing and beheading a fellow passenger or killing innocent Tibetan in Tibet for opposing to Chinese occupation and oppression.
  66. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: Dr Demento from Canada writes:
    'The USA has A LOT in common with China. They both have the death penalty, they both arrest, detain and torture prisoners without allowing them any legal recourse and they have the two highest incarceration rates on the planet'

    Sadly this is true in China. Although such practices are outlawed many years ago, there are still such cases reported every now and then. Traditionally, Chinese governments have had wide-ranging powers and there is no public accountability on the actions of government officials. Old habits die hard.

    Having said that, US incarceration rate is much higher if measured on per capita basis.

    But again, US legal system is still the model of many other countries, China included.
  67. Kevin Wells from United States writes:
    And I never get tired of why I think regime change in Iraq couldn't be considered the worst military blunder 'in the past 2000 years' as mr. rafuse states.

    It is off topic, but say the word and I'll do it again.
  68. Glynn W from Canada writes: For all you China bashers -errmmm...why is Canada there participating? Could it be that you 'democratic rights and wishes' went deliberately unheard and therefore unanswered by your 'democratically elected' government. Or is it that as usual little people in whatever sort of state you label it always have no power! May as well sit back and enjoy it. I know I will with my 57 inch TV!
  69. jay bow from ny, United States writes: where is canada?
  70. Jeremy F from Alberta, Canada writes: It's true, you really can't compare America to China so easily. At least you can still criticize the current government without repercussions, you still have a free press, although more conglomerated then before but still has the freedom to criticize the current government.

    The only problem is that with the direction the U.S is going right now, they will one day become like China if they don't smarten up and start making their gov't more accountable and transparent to the people.
  71. Rangzen Bhu from Toronto, Canada writes: Rob L from Vancouver, Canada

    Are you a agent of Beijing. Are you blind not to see see the lady being taken on stretcher by paramedics.

    Do you deny that Tibet is an occupied country or the guy who beheaded a fellow bus passenger is not Chinese came to Canada in 2004.
  72. Karin Pasnak from North Vancouver, Canada writes: When Bush decided to go to China he said, keep the Olympics and Politics seperate. So what is he doing now?
    Bush made a mess of his own country and is telling China how to run theirs?
    Thank God in a few month this Idiot will be gone!
  73. Rose Wong from Canada writes: Glynn W from Canada writes: For all you China bashers -errmmm...why is Canada there participating? Could it be that you 'democratic rights and wishes' went deliberately unheard and therefore unanswered by your 'democratically elected' government. Or is it that as usual little people in whatever sort of state you label it always have no power! May as well sit back and enjoy it. I know I will with my 57 inch TV!
    ---------------

    Don't be surprised that the Canadian team might be the first to pull out a Snow Lion flag or act like a bunch of activist clowns in front of the world given the general comments we see here and Harpers attitude. They are not even attending the Opening Ceremony.
  74. R Miller from Halifax, Canada writes: jay bow from ny, United States writes:

    'Where is Canada?'

    You guys are the ones who are so greatly indebted to China and seemingly must now kowtow to the Communist Party...

    Not our problem, really...

    Also, not our fault...

    Displace your anger elsewhere, please...

    Cheers
  75. Doug Dewan from Canada writes: What hypocricy!!! Do as I say not as I do, so typical of the U.S Government as they fly people all over the world to have them tourtured by other Governments....pot calling the kettle black. Can't wait for this man to leave office listening to him speak makes my stomach turn.
  76. Peter Kells from Bytown, Canada writes: Mr. Bush is engaging in arrogant and disrespectful behaviour. He is certainly entitled to his political views on China, however he accepted an invitation to visit China and attend the games. When you accept an invitation from someone, you do not use it as an opportunity to trash them.

    Mr. Bush prides himself on being a southern gentleman but it appears that he doesn't know the meaning of the word.
  77. The Last Honest Conservative from Western, Canada writes:

    The Chinese should do the right thing...........
    .......... capture Bush and ship him to the Hague
  78. Rob L from Vancouver, Canada writes: Hey liar Bhu, being taken out on a stretcher does not mean she's paralyzed, duh. We can see the truth now, all the so called 'atrocities' happening in Tibet are exaggerations and lies. Tibet is not an occupied country. It's freer now than it was under the Dalai Lama rule.

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    Rangzen Bhu from Toronto, Canada writes: Rob L from Vancouver, Canada

    Are you a agent of Beijing. Are you blind not to see see the lady being taken on stretcher by paramedics.

    Do you deny that Tibet is an occupied country or the guy who beheaded a fellow bus passenger is not Chinese came to Canada in 2004.
  79. Mothers Talk from Toxic planet dead earth, Canada writes: 'China wants the 16-day Games to show its best face '

    And now let the scandels begin! This will be the best farce of the summer of 2008 so far.
  80. Paul who is from Vancouver, Canada writes: .
    So did George Bush take a Bible with him to Beijing with him or not?

    In November on the floor of the House of Representatives, Congressman Thaddeus McCotter (R-MI), Chairman of the House Republican Committee attacked the Beijing Olympics for banning Bibles, and admonished President Bush.

    'As the world stumbles toward the communist propaganda extravaganza labeled the Beijing Olympics, somewhere Chairman Mao is looking up at us and laughing.'

    'Mr. President how many Bibles will you be taking to Beijing? Will you visit the 5 bishops and 15 priests imprisoned for opposing the Communist regime's official church?'

    Since November there has been no comment from the President about this.

    See the congressman's statement here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3sR6WZVPKs
  81. The Last Honest Conservative from Western, Canada writes:
    Karin Pasnak from North Vancouver wrote:
    Bush made a mess of his own country and is telling China how to run theirs ? Thank God in a few month this Idiot will be gone!

    Karin, Don't get your hopes up...........
    .............. Bush will soon be replaced by a wrinkley white-haired idiot
  82. Rose Wong from Canada writes: Perhaps the main reason Bush will be attending the Opening Ceremony is that he will pull out the Snow Lion flag and shout 'Free Tibet' slogan when all the leaders gathered together. I can't wait to see that on screen.
  83. Comments are Closed from Toronto, Canada writes: I wouldn't want to be a loser on the Chinese Olympic Team. Not with bullets being so cheap and organ donations so high in demand there.
  84. A. K. from ex-pat, United States writes: Imagine throwing a party and hours before the guests arrive, you find out one of your guests trash-talks you. How would you feel? What a class act.
  85. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: The Last Honest Conservative from Western, Canada writes:
    'The Chinese should do the right thing...........
    .......... capture Bush and ship him to the Hague '

    Come on, guys, don't just blame Mr. Bush for all your sins. First of all, Mr. Bush is democratically elected and the war plan is approved by the House which itself is elected by its constituents. If there is any war crime trial, the whole US of A will be on trial.

    Secondly, I believe that most Americans and Canadians, in fact most of Western worlds, supported his military adventures. Now things are not going as planned, you guys want him to shoulder all the blame. This is not fair.

    Be honest with yourself, ask yourself whether you supported him at that time and why.
  86. Joe Dick from Kingston, Canada writes: Ironic to say the least to read the far left wing loons who frequent these comment boards point the finger at Bush and China and decrying human rights.

    Remember that Mahar Arar being tortured in Syria, rendition flights stopping in Canada, Omar Khadr torture, invasion of Afghanistan and subsequent desire to abandon the people of A-stan to the Taliban.

    ALL of these occured under the liberal watch. ALL OF THEM.
  87. L.B. MURRAY from !! from Canada writes: Peter Kells from Bytown, Canada writes: Mr. Bush is engaging in arrogant and disrespectful behaviour. He is certainly entitled to his political views on China, however he accepted an invitation to visit China and attend the games. When you accept an invitation from someone, you do not use it as an opportunity to trash them.
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    Small consolation.... At least our PM Harper is not attending the Opening Ceremonies..... and .... our PM Harper is not travelling with Mr Bush, echoeing every Bushism ''verbatim'' like he used to do just about 2 years ago when Lebanon was smashed to smithereens .... Let's hope our PM Harper keeps his usual tight lip and if questioned by the media, would answer ''Jelly beans'' or something similar to what he answered after the meeting with MrBush in Montebello.

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  88. Steve is ..... a Crusader with no need of a stinkin' cape. from Canada writes:

    China needs 'chiding' for it's human rights record?
    SHOCKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I bet the communist left never saw that coming.
  89. Rose Wong from Canada writes: Comments are Closed from Toronto, Canada writes: I wouldn't want to be a loser on the Chinese Olympic Team. Not with bullets being so cheap and organ donations so high in demand there.

    Can you refer to me an article about a losing Chinese Olympic team that had this kind of treatment? How did you find out about this?
  90. Rangzen Bhu from Toronto, Canada writes: Rob L from Vancouver:

    1.2 million Tibetan killed since 1950. 2.5 million square KM of reals estate that is Tibet robbed by China.

    Tibetans are forced to learn, behave, speak like Chinese in Tibet. If it not occupied then why there is always tanks and troops there for slightest of protest.

    You don't see tanks and troops in China when there is protest except in 1989 student protest for democracy.

    Why are Chinese there in Tibet.
  91. A. K. from ex-pat, United States writes: Paul, thanks for the link. The last line really says something about the freakish religious factor in US politics. I quote, 'No good government denies God's presence.' I think the founding fathers would be looking down on them and cringing. So much for separation of church and state.
  92. agent sixtynine from Canada writes: Remember Tiananmen Square!
    Now that's brutality.
  93. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: Comments are Closed from Toronto, Canada writes: 'I wouldn't want to be a loser on the Chinese Olympic Team. Not with bullets being so cheap and organ donations so high in demand there. '

    There will 650 Chinese athletes competing, expecting around 30 gold medals, comparable number of silvers and bronzes.

    Your time would be better spent on mobilizing your human right activists and saving the organs of these athletes than writing fictions here.
  94. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: Agent Sixtynine, I am still waiting for your answer:
    'Would you also apologize to your Chinese friends or you don't have any Chinese friends, or you don't regard Chinese as your friends?'
  95. Jesse Winger from Calgary SW, Canada writes: Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: 'Secondly, I believe that most Americans and Canadians, in fact most of Western worlds, supported his military adventures. Now things are not going as planned, you guys want him to shoulder all the blame. This is not fair.'

    You're wrong. Canadians, under the wise hand of Jean Chretien, stayed out of Iraq.

    China, on the other hand, launched a military takedown of Tibet - something the Han majority unanimously support.

    You should read more about the real world - if your communist gov't will let you.
  96. dick brown from missy, Canada writes: US haters...note the zillion Chinese here in Canada and the US....there is a reason for that....China blows!!!!

    Note almost no Canadian and US emigrants in China...there is a reason for this...China blows!
  97. dick brown from missy, Canada writes: Remeber left wing nutters (in Canada an the US), if you were in China right now, you couldn't write the things you're free to write here...of course, you're so blinded by your own dumb ideology you can't and never will see the irony.
  98. vic w from Canada writes: You know, what a BS hackjob this all is. Look folks, Tienmen square is old news, approaching 1980's status is it? Is that how far back you have to go? I'm sorry but, the China that you knew from the 50's and 60's doesn't exist any more. Get over it.

    I get concerned when I see what's going on here in Canada. I get real concerned, because while we are so smug and self-righteously pointing our own fingers, our own record of rights is abysmal and getting worse. We are the only G8 country that hasn't pulled our people out of Guantanamo bay. A minor, no less. We are one of 3 countries that will not sign a UN convention on the rights of the aboriginal. We spend so much on freaking US military equipment yet homelessness is rampant on the streets of Calgary. You accuse China of propaganda, yet our own government, in the first year that it was in power, DOUBLED the spending rate on PR/Advertising. High fuel and high gas prices (even though we are a producing nation)will wage a de facto war on the poor. Spare your vitriol and Conservative talking points, they're old.

    You talk about the smog in China, yet you won't talk about the frequency of solar power panels in China. You talk about the problems of the Yangtze River dam, yet you won't talk about the reduction in coal use that this would enable. Rather than sitting there and pointing fingers, maybe we should be cleaning up our own back yard.

    If we keep imagining that we're where we were in the 50's and 60's we'll lose sight of the fact that the Canada of Trudeau ideals, a just society, which made us proud to be Canadian does not exist anymore, we have been too complacent. Even worse, we will sit on our collective behinds, not innovating, not going and getting. Rather than complaining about this new market of China, we should quit being American stooges, and go and get in this new market.

    I'm sorry, there's more than just us in the world, you know.
  99. F H from Canada writes: 'jay bow from ny, United States writes: people all over the world want to live here - not canada'

    Care to explain why so many of your former citizens are moving here?
  100. Springfire From ShenZheng from China writes: Jesse Winger from Calgary SW, Canada writes: 'China, on the other hand, launched a military takedown of Tibet - something the Han majority unanimously support. '

    The issue is now again diverted to Tibet. I guess I will have to meet the challenge. Which China were you talking about Jesse Winger? Prior to 1949, your own US government recognize Tibet as part of China. Prior to 1900's Manchurians have already ruled Tibet for 300 years. Prior to that, successive Chinese emperors ruled Tibet for another several hundred years.

    If there was any take-over of Tibet, it was by Mongolians and Manchurians, not Hans. Are your history limited to after 1949?

    Aren't Canadians still in Afghanistan?
  101. Rose Wong from Canada writes: dick brown from missy, Canada writes: US haters...note the zillion Chinese here in Canada and the US....there is a reason for that....China blows!!!!

    Note almost no Canadian and US emigrants in China...there is a reason for this...China blows!

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    When I was working in Hong Kong, there were a number of American and Australian executives who were supposed to repatriate to their countries after their terms are up. They all elected to find jobs in Hong Kong, Guangzhou, Shanghai and Beijing rather than returning to US or Australia. Interesting.
  102. The Wight from Canada writes: Joe Dick:

    'ALL of these occured under the liberal watch. ALL OF THEM.'

    I guess you must have forgotten the debate in the HoC where the Martin Liberals were talking compensation for Arar and Stephen Harper and Stockwell Day both railed against the idea from the cheap seats, openly stating he was a terrorist, etc. They