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Michael Sharp from Victoria, Canada writes:
Kangaroo court.
Period.- Posted 11/08/08 at 11:52 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Alistair McLaughlin from Canada writes: Last week they were complaining that they couldn't even track down the Tory Cabmins to issue them supenas. Now they escort them out? Stange business these Parliamentary hearings.
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Tek Manhas from Victoria, Canada writes: The kangaroo is Mr Finley who can't even tell what day he is supposed to appear in front of the committee.
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Al Gonquin from deep south, Canada writes: Let's just transfer the Republican party to Canada...you just have to love the 'progressive' as in Progressive Conservatives don'cha?
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globefan Eh from Canada writes: Leo Strauss would be proud..provoke, provoke, provoke.
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S F from st. Catharines, Canada writes: typical
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Loki Peterson from Toronto, Canada writes: Omar Khadr is facing a kangaroo court. The ethics committee is not a kangaroo court because it has no power to judicial authority. It is simply conducting a fact-finding investigation into Conservative sleaze. The fact that Harpo & the gang are using every tactic in the book to hinder the investigation speaks volumes about their own assessment of their guilt.
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My Humble Opinion from Canada writes: can conservatives do nothing but whine and cry. Man, i have never seen so many self righteous bigotts.
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sean smith from Canada writes: Nice to see the cons contempt for democracy and Parliament continues. I guess law and order applies only to us unwashed serfs.
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A B from Saskatoon, Canada writes: It is very interesting to see numbers of $29999 and $49999 - what happened to that one dollar? Are these figures 'pleasantly rounded' to avoid something?
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Stude Ham from Outremont, Canada writes:
If this hearing (obviously not good for the harper side) is a 'kangaroo court' then what are we to make of any system of justice which harper criticizes? in other words, can we really trust the cLoWnservatives with their new laws on criminal justice?
no... not really...
DUMP HARPER!
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Pragmatic Canadian from Canadia, Canada writes: Why all the stall tactics if they have nothing to hide?
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Shawn Bull from Canada writes: My Humble Opinion from Canada writes: can conservatives do nothing but whine and cry. Man, i have never seen so many self righteous bigotts.
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Please teach us to be non-biased like yourself....we don't have to whine...we are in charge, remember.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:08 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Kevin Desmoulin from Toronto, Canada writes: This whole thing, this in and out scheme reminds of those emails scams from the UK asking me to send them so I can collect my sweepstakes winnings.
Same thing, bunch of scam artists, too bad one is our government.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:08 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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John Hertz from Ottawa, Canada writes: So whatever happened to civilization in Canada? This is really unbelievable conduct from the Conservative Party who were suppose to be the party of integrity.
I wonder if Harper/Finley are just reading from their manual on how to disrupt committees and meetings.
Another attack on democracy by Harper's Reform party.
Thank Peter McKay for allowing this bunch of yahoos to be running the country.
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Marc S from Canada writes: I see the con mantra .............don't like the message............kill the messanger is in full swing today ! Disrupting the commitee that is looking into Tory wrongdoing...............and then calling it a kangaroo court !!!!Does it get any better !!!! Makes me wanna say ' jesus ' ???? even though I don't believe in such things !!!
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Grant Bowen from a higher place, Canada writes: Michael Sharp: You squawk like a parrot, therefore you are one. Can you say anything other than your party's line?
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Still Learning at 78 from Canada writes: Time to get tough on crime---RIGHT.
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G. Veneta from Calgary, Canada writes: Sharpie from Vic. writes 'kangaroo court' ....indeed our entire government is a kangaroo court run by dim wits and angry foul mouthed hypocrites.
The entire con movement is warped and twisted and disturbing to think over 30% of this country is daft enough or twisted and corrupted enough to support this destruction of Canada.
Sharp must be so lonely out in Vic as such an angry white con.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:12 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Peter The Not Quite Great from Canada writes: I suggest we sew or glue every single MP's mouth shut. With this bunch of idiots filling the commons I suspect this country already runs itself.
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NikolaTesla -the genius who lit the world from Calgary, Canada writes: The only kangaroos here are the Conservatives, the contempt they have for the intelligence of Canadians is disgraceful.
Stephen Harper is a disgrace to the position he holds and a disgrace to the human race in general.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:14 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Grant Bowen from a higher place, Canada writes: Alistair McLaughlin from Canada writes: Last week they were complaining that they couldn't even track down the Tory Cabmins to issue them supenas. Now they escort them out? Stange business these Parliamentary hearings.
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Get your facts straight: Finlay is not a cabinet minister...- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:15 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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L'actualite Conservative from Toronto, Canada writes: My goodness. So many angry Liberal posters. Angry , nasty, petulent, name calling. Embarrassing times to be a Liberal. Mr Trudeau is likely to be spinning in his grave to know he has his name and reputation tied to the likes of these.
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suss man from Canada writes:
Harper has decreed this a 'kangaroo court' and has now sent forth his minions to do all they can to make his pontification come true.
These actions by the CPC party faithful demonstrate they know what they did was wrong and are now in full damage control with their typical attitude of the best defence is strong offence, a la Brian Mulroney.
All Canadians must be very happy these days that we did not give these guys a majority.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:16 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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G. Veneta from Calgary, Canada writes: I agree with the 9999's. It is of course to try and trip up the system so it is not noticed by auditors no doubt.
Do conservatives really endorse this childish behaviour. It is so disgusting and embarrassing this is our government. What a joke my country has become under this circus of vicious angry incompetents.
Do they propose good ideas or policy? No, they just spin mud. Yuck. This is not my Canada.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:16 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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only mikey from Canada writes: ANOTHER WASTE OF TAX PAYERS MONEY. The Commons ethics committee is a joke--Paul Szabo is once again doing a poor job with control of members. The Election Canada(mostly Liberals) case is mostly due to a case of 'sour grapes' When will EC start investing the other government parties--answer NEVER (wonder why!)
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Still Learning at 78 from Canada writes: Forgive them (Harpers Boys)) for they know not what they are doing.
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R. M. from Regina, Canada writes: The Parliamentary Committees are nothing but a sham and indeed are a zoo. Need we look any further than Carl Hans Schreiber???? The Liberrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrals and NDP have turned this in to their own private circus since they can't get on with Cirque de Soleil.
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Always Right from Canada writes:
Funny, but if there truly was wrongdoing, you'd think that the RCMP would have laid charges after their (much publicized) raid of Conservative Party headquarters.
What? No Conservatives charged with any crimes?
Can the same be said of the Liberals? Didn't think so.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:19 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Ernest Semple from Dollard-des-Ormeaux, QC, Canada writes: More Free entertainment in Parliament:
The Liberal prosecutor in these Kangeroo hearings seems likely in favour of the McGuinty proposed Human Rights Tribunal courts for Ontario.
The damage is always to the accused, and the benefits always to the accuser.
Quebec has an anonymous 'snitch' system based on the same principle.
In each case the accuser risks nothing, has no court expenses, and can make a real hobby out of digging up imaginary supposions that create the impression 'Where there's smoke there's fire.'
One has to be gullible to subject oneself to this kind of entertainment that has no thumbs up signal, unlike the Roman games.
The only way to beat this kind of kangaroo court activity is to flood its legal prerogative pathways with legitimate but trivial complaints and procedures, much like the old Oxford debating technique.
Ernest Semple, Montreal- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:21 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Trevor Klein from a better vision, Canada writes: I believe that it was an NDP MP that said these hearings are not the proper arena to get the bottom of things and he is a lawyer. Its all politics, if there is no precise rule against this tactic then how can it be wrong? Its called a loop hole people and they used it, everyone one of you out there has found/ used one at some time. I will tell you who thinks its wrong and that is the liberal appointed to elections canada that doesn't like Harper and conservatives, suck it up you LOST.
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rick from river city from Canada writes: anyone who watched the first sessions of this committee in July would easily understand the label 'kangaroo court'. Szabo's bias is palatable.
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Fake Name from Canada writes: What the F was he thinking? Is crashing the meeting and making security drag him out supposed to make the CPC look good?
That's the sort of behaviour we're used to seeing from purple-haired anti-globalization protesters, not supposedly adult officials of the governing party.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:24 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Joe Dick from Kingston, Canada writes: Wow, a soon to be 700 post thread bashing Harper and conservatives and adding absolutely nothing to the discussion.
Who would have guessed?
Why bother to hold a hearing, our liberal friends already say that Harper is guilty. So I ask you libs....why bother holding a hearing if Harper and the cons are guilty?- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:27 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Loki Peterson from Toronto, Canada writes: Always Right from Canada - the RCMP didn't manage to find any basis to lay charges against Black, Mulroney or Jakobek either. It doesn't mean anything. Black is currently sitting in a prison cell, but Officer Doolittle at the RCMP business crimes unit will tell you that he can't find any evidence of wrongdoing. Whatever.
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Hairy Wrangellian from Saltspring Island, Canada writes: So this is what the Conservatives mean when they talk about 'accountability'...
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diane marie from calgary, Canada writes: One minute, Mr. Finley is scuttling down back stairwells in order to avoid the press; the next minute, he's begging to be the focus of the Klieg lights. He's a versatile performer worthy of an Academy Award nomination. I will leave it to others to suggest the appropriate Oscar category.
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Haiden MitHand El from Canada writes: Did these CPC guys ever graduate from middle school? I mean, their behavior is so 8th grade.
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diane marie from calgary, Canada writes: rick from river city:-- Palatable?
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suss man from Canada writes:
rick from river city from Canada writes: anyone who watched the first sessions of this committee in July would easily understand the label 'kangaroo court'. Szabo's bias is palatable.
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palatable / 1. pleasant to taste. 2. ( of an idea, suggestion, etc.)acceptable, satisfactory.
well said ricky!!!!- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:35 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Haiden MitHand El from Canada writes: Grant Bowen from a higher place, Canada writes: Michael Sharp: You squawk like a parrot, therefore you are one. Can you say anything other than your party's line?
Grant -- I believe he's a ConBorg -- connected to the collective hive mentality and all that. They don't actually believe in independent, critical, creative thought processes. Witness their recent cuts to cultural funding.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:35 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Phil King from Ottawa, Canada writes: There are specific spending limits for national advertising versus ridings. This was done to ensure the local riding associations have the ability to promote their candidate separately from the national campaign.
What the Conservatives have done is appropriate this secondary amount for the national campaign, contravening the rules set out by election Canada. The evidence is clear in this regard.
You can debate whether the rules should be changed, but there is no justification for breaking the rules out of hand, which they clearly did.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:36 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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c rob from Canada writes: For goodness sakes people, why the outrage over this behaviour? Why would you expect anything else?
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Loki Peterson from Toronto, Canada writes: Where is Peter Van Loan in all of this? Normally, when the sleaze begins to ooze from the PMO, Van Loan can be counted on for a comical contribution.
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Writes With Pen from Canada writes: There is a saying in the U.S. about the Republicans that applies quite well to this type of Conservative rambling filling the posts about this article:
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.'
Laws and rules do not apply to these people, but watch out if their 'rights' are ever soiled.
It is always difficult for these people to think outside their own self-interests.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:40 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Brenton E. from Canada writes: they do something slimy, they sue those who investiagte the slimy behavior, they try and disturb the process of investigation regarding the slimy event. Harper and his bunch make my skin crawl!
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HushZ Masroor from Gatineau, Canada writes: Well this a naturally THE PROGRESSIVE CONSERVE - A - THIEVE
PARTY of Canada.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:41 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Gogh Forit from Canada writes: Elections Canada finds any excuse to have a bash at the Conservatives but give their Dion-darling another 18 months (until Dec 2009) to repay his Dec 2006 leadership debt. Makes you wonder about the objectivity of Elections Canada. It's time to make this body private as it is obvious that it is not unbiased.
Elections Canada, a bit of consistency please.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:43 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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The Globe and Mail editors censor free speech from Canada writes: Why was Finley asked to leave? There's nothing in this article that indicates that he was interfering or making a disturbance. What a joke that these parliamentary committees have become.
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Chuck Berry from Canada writes: Shame on you, G & M, for such a biased and misleading headline. Allegations are simply allegations. The accused is presumed innocent until proven otherwise. Where is the balance in this story? Where is any serious investigative journalism?
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Fake Name from Canada writes: ' Trevor Klein from a better vision, Canada writes: I will tell you who thinks its wrong and that is the liberal appointed to elections canada that doesn't like Harper and conservatives, suck it up you LOST. '
What liberal appointed to elections canada? Mayrand got the job in 2007 - why would Harper appoint a partisan opponent to run EC?- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:43 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Julie Wellington from Canada writes: Clear and transparent , they actually said that last election and people believed it. Can't wait until Canada's traditional ruling party returns to power.
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Brenton E. from Canada writes: HushZ Masroor from Gatineau, Canada writes: Well this a naturally THE PROGRESSIVE CONSERVE - A - THIEVE
PARTY of Canada.
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don't even suggest that this bunch is progressive conservative, the last progressive conservative was Joe Clarke. This bunch are nothing but a bunch of Alberta Social Creditistes.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:45 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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rick from river city from Canada writes: OK... not palatable... meant to say Szabo's bias is obvious enough to sense (taste, feel, smell). His performance as the chair during the questioning of Maynard was as 'kangaroo' as a parliamentary committee could be. Expectations for this week are not a lot higher.
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B Fulsom from Menlo Park, United States writes: I didn't see this addressed in the article. Why is he not allowed to be present?
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Paul H from Canada writes: Anyone that would call this Committee fair and balanced needs to have their head examined. Mr. Finley may have acted like a fool, but is this whole charade not foolish?
This case will ultimately be decided in a Court of Law. Not by a partisan witch-hunt.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:47 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Phil King from Ottawa, Canada writes: This is simply more proof of how incredibly centralized and hierarchal the CPC party structure has become.
You cannot call an organization 'grass roots' when it strong-arms its local riding associations into handing over their PR dollars for a national campaign that may or may not help them in their riding, ESPECIALLY if the larger amounts are coming from ridings they aren't likely to win in the first place.
Why the CPC would even try to cover this instead of playing the 'whoops' card and paying back the measley amount out of their overflowing coffers is beyond me.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:47 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Kilgore Trout from So it goes ..., Canada writes: I guess Harper is really scared on this one, seems like he's trying all sort of things to try and distract/discredit parliamentary committee proceedings. So much for his promise of an open and accountable government ...
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Grampa Canuck from Stirling, ON, Canada writes: I think the award for the least-valuable, most unintelligeble rant goes to Don Adams.
My own feeling regarding the CONservatives and the Fiberals is: a pox on both of their houses! They've both shown cycnical contempt for the people who elect them and both stand guilty of pulling fast ones.
Now the Conservatives are trying to pull a Gulf of Tonkin (where the U.S. engineered a North Vietnamese 'attack'). Show up 3 days early (can't he read a calendar?), disrupt the meeting, and then cry & whine when ejected.
So now the Conservatives are being called to task for their shady dealings. If the tables were exactly reversed, the Conservatives would be doing just as the Liberals are now. Neither party has a monopoly on virtue or fair play.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:49 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Brenton E. from Canada writes: B Fulsom from Menlo Park, United States writes: I didn't see this addressed in the article. Why is he not allowed to be present?
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rules of process, ettiquette, procedure. He simply decided he would not comply. The committee has a series of interviews and he was not scheduled for a few more weeks, he simply wanted to cause trouble and he did, for his party, his boss and himself.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:50 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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c rob from Canada writes: Yup that's it. It's all the Globe and Mail's fault. Yup. The Globe and other media outlets are biased against the poor, downtrodden, and misunderstood CPC.
Disrupt, divide, detroy. Nice.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:50 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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suss man from Canada writes:
Don Adams, The Conservative Centrist from Canada writes:
:-) Going to be a real bunch of unhappy campers :-) Is France's population going to increase when you all move there to enjoy living your lefty dreams :-)
France is run by a right wing extremist Bush Boot-liker by the name of Nickolas Sarkozy. Your know knowledge of the politique and international geopolitics is worthy of a gobemouche Harperoid supporter with your psittacine posts.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:52 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Phil King from Ottawa, Canada writes: B Fulsom from Menlo Park, United States writes: I didn't see this addressed in the article. Why is he not allowed to be present?
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Because these aren't open hearings. Since I can't imagine they'd be any happier if the media could sit in on these hearings I can't figure what they're trying to pull here.
Seems they simply have no respect for any rule they did not personal create, and I suspect not all of those either.- Posted 11/08/08 at 12:55 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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c rob from Canada writes: Phil King:
You know exactly what they're trying to pull here. They are illustrating to their loyal party adherents that they are standing up against a 'kangaroo' court because after all, they are the only true, honest voice on the Hill. Rules be damned. It is once again smoke and mirrors by this party, with contempt for anything that may hold them accountable for something. They sit on the right hand of God didn't you know.- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:00 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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only mikey from Canada writes: Why is E C giving Dion extra time to pay his debt-- and what gives the G&M to report vague facts? Oh forgot both groups are Liberal supporters!
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Jim Q from Halifax, Canada writes: Its only really funny if he stomped his feet. 'But, but, but I want my turn NOW!!!'
Kangeroo court indeed. But the Kangeroos are increasingly hopping from the Government benches.- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:04 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Eric T. from Regina, Canada writes: But will he show up when he is supposed to?
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jack sprat from Canada writes: These CPC clowns know what they are doing. Harper will use his comments last week and todays antics by Finlay to 'prove' this is a kangaroo court. The fact is it is completely disrespectful of the democratic process and clearly such behaviour seems to suggest there is something to hide. Mr Finlay and Harper doth protest too much.
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charles ANTHONY from Canada writes: The farce continues... These politicians are ignoring the real problems that exist in government corruption. Huge capital crimes going on in government and no cares. These campaign expenditure problems are small compared to the blind attempt to portray any level of government expenditures as honest and forthright. The foxes are guarding an empty hen house.We,the citizens are being missled by academic immorality.
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sean smith from Canada writes: Nice post suss man! Poor Don Adams is going to be spending at least a week looking up those words in the dictionary.
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The Globe and Mail editors censor free speech from Canada writes: To Kilgore Trout who writes: 'I guess Harper is really scared on this one, seems like he's trying all sort of things to try and distract/discredit parliamentary committee proceedings. So much for his promise of an open and accountable government ...'
Seriously, what's more open and accountable than a legal court proceeding with a real judge and real lawyers and proper procedures for providing statements and evidence? This kangaroo court with questions from CBC reporters? Please, give your head a shake and think for yourself.- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:10 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Sue City from Canada writes: All politicians are self-serving crooks.
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Crusty Curmudgeon from Ottawa, Canada writes:
They have finally stuped to the LIEberal level.- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:11 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Old Sam Dark and Dirty from Republic of Newfoundland, Canada writes: Loki Peterson from Toronto, Canada writes: Omar Khadr is facing a kangaroo court. The ethics committee is not a kangaroo court because it has no power to judicial authority. It is simply conducting a fact-finding investigation into Conservative sleaze. The fact that Harpo & the gang are using every tactic in the book to hinder the investigation speaks volumes about their own assessment of their guilt--------------------
I don't see the necessity of this hearing as the matter is already before elections canada and will be sorted out in court. This hearing has nothing to do with fact finding but more to do with optics. The opposition want the public to believe that the Conservatives have done something unheard of in Canadian politics. The funny thing is all the parties do the same thing, you can rest assured that if they investigated the Liberals, NDP they would find the same thing, also how about the Bloc funding PQ candidates?- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:11 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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mike sty - from Canada writes: Why is Finley in the middle of every Consevative illegal Scandal???
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A B from Calgary Area, Canada writes: Do you think these beligerent and constant disruption techniques mean the Kangaroo Court CON-BORGS have something to hide!??
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The Globe and Mail editors censor free speech from Canada writes: To Phil King who writes: 'Because these aren't open hearings. Since I can't imagine they'd be any happier if the media could sit in on these hearings I can't figure what they're trying to pull here.'
Broadcast on CPAC, reported on by the press, but not 'open'? You're stretching the definition there a bit aren't you?- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:13 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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D Le5 from Canada writes: Ah yes a kangeroo court for a kangeroo parliament. fitting.
Just wish I could remember what page of the CPC handbook for disrupting committees this move comes from.
We should get tax refunds for everytime an 'honourable' MP acts like a clown - I don't think we'd have to pay taxes again. Goes for all the parties btw so please spare me 'well the Libbies did this or that' - like children on a playground on these boards most days. Hmm so I guess our MPs are reflecting their ridings afterall....- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:13 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Stan L from Canada writes: mike sty - from Canada writes: Why is Finley in the middle of every Consevative illegal Scandal???
The bigger question is why would you want to take this much of a professional and public hit for Harper....he better hope that the CPC continues to be satisfied with his employment....becuase I doubt he's emplyable elsewhere at this point.- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:15 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Tim Bryson from Claresholm, AB., Canada writes: Joe Dick...the hearings are being held to investigate EC allegations. If the cons would let the hearings unfold, we may get to a bit of the truth. The story is now the disruption of the hearings by the group being invetigated. If this was the behavior of the liberals, what your line be then?
Its the behavior that makes the cons look like they have something to hide and makes the story.- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:15 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Floyd Robertson from Ottawa, Canada writes: The Globe and Mail editors censor free speech from Canada writes: Why was Finley asked to leave? There's nothing in this article that indicates that he was interfering or making a disturbance. What a joke that these parliamentary committees have become. ----------------------------- As with many quasi-judicial proceedings, potential witnesses are generally sequestered so that they do not have the opportunity to tailor their evidence to that of prior witnesses.
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James Tod from Vancouver, Canada writes: The Conservatives look more like a mob gang than a political party. With 31 of their members under summonses just to show up because they didn't respond. Finlay ran the entire party during the last election and so he knew exactly what he was doing by showing up early and trying to cause problems. The Conservatives look so very guilty.
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The Man Behind The Curtain from United States writes: Crusty Curmudgeon from Ottawa, Canada writes:
They have finally stuped to the LIEberal level.
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What do you mean 'finally'? If true, they stuped that low just to get elected!
They have only gotten worse since then. ;)- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:18 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Cognitively Cogitative from Urbia, Canada writes: Well they ar every nervous. No wonder they want an election. If this enquiry concludes before the election it could sound the death knoll for the conservatives.
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Phil King from Ottawa, Canada writes: c rob from Canada writes: '...They are illustrating to their loyal party adherents that they are standing up against a 'kangaroo' court because after all, they are the only true, honest voice on the Hill. Rules be damned...'
I totally agree, but this can do nothing to expand their support base which is the only thing that will ever get them their coveted majority.
Frankly, the nasty attitude they project around these types of events is far more damaging to their expansion potential than overspending a mere $1.1 million which they could easily pay back with a decent mea culpa.- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:19 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Tim Bryson from Claresholm, AB., Canada writes: I suppose that the Watergate hearings would have been perceived by the right wingnuts here as a 'kangaroo court' and a 'waste of taxpayers dollars'.
Guys, your attempts to rally behind your Dear Leader are pathetic.- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:20 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Will ll from Canada writes: hmm the old in out election scam
I imagine a lot of people feel like the Cons are giving them the old in out treatment.
Bet it leaves them with a sore butt and an awful taste in the mouth- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:21 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Pragmatic Canadian from Canadia, Canada writes: 'Trevor Klein from a better vision, Canada writes: I believe that it was an NDP MP that said these hearings are not the proper arena to get the bottom of things and he is a lawyer. Its all politics, if there is no precise rule against this tactic then how can it be wrong? Its called a loop hole people and they used it, everyone one of you out there has found/ used one at some time. I will tell you who thinks its wrong and that is the liberal appointed to elections canada that doesn't like Harper and conservatives, suck it up you LOST. '
Transparent, honest government indeed.- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:22 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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A B from Calgary Area, Canada writes: Glug, Glug, Glug.... The Good Ship HMCS 'StevieHarplerLiedAboutIncomeTrusts' is tendering salvage
opportunities.... and is being towed to Stornaway for The Knife Ceremony.
Please, rid us of these CON-BORG Drones.
There is light at the end of this dark passage in Canadian History.
The Dictator, King Steve MUST GO.
.....You have been sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done
with you. In the name of God, go!.....
Oliver Cromwell to Stevie 'The Dictator' Harpler- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:23 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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jer greene from Montreal, Canada writes: The petits Cons are at it again. Doing what they do best - bullying, obstructing, lying, deceiving... When will this childish embarrassment of a government end? The sooner, the better for all of us.
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D Le5 from Canada writes: Pragmatic Canadian from Canadia: you are aware that the CPC appointed the guy to EC right???
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Always Right from Canada writes:
Major Pain - that's pretty funny. Guess that's the way you Liberals flush your heads out of your nether regions.- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:25 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Not the Alliance from In my opinion, The Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent, but excel at whining that it's ALWAYS somebody else's fault., Canada writes: If Harper had simply been as 'Accountable' and 'Honest' as he promised with his in and out scheme funded election ads, this would all have been ancient (by political standards) news. Digging in, not cooperating, disrupting - just leads to the opinion that he's got something to hide. Entitled dishonesty from our 'new' gov't has become the story.
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Jeremy K from Canada writes: these tory clowns are pathetic. Harper goes on about kangaroo courts and then finley mocks the wholke thing by forcing security to toss him out. its the tories who are making a farce of the whole thing
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Always Right from Canada writes:
Oh looky - dufus boy is back.- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:28 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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G. Veneta from Calgary, Canada writes: Really difficult to believe this is the behaviour of grown men elected to uphold and defend the foundations of our democracy.
They make a mockery of our democratic institutions and undermine our nation in doing so. Do they hate Canada so much as to disrespect our foundations so much?
Who are these angry children but reformers and socreds? There isn't a progressive left in the party of fringe folk.
Misery for Canada. Dion, get ready and call the election. This is too painful. I suggest the rest of Canada wake up and pay attention to this joke foisted upon us by Mackay in his betrayal to the progressive conservative party. I hope one day he gets his karma for such a betrayal to Canada. They all make me ill, such a creepy bunch is hard to imagine before now.- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:30 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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garlick toast from Canada writes: Major Pain from Canada writes: The only good Tory;
is a suppository.
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That's an 'innuendo'- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:30 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Rain Couver from Canada writes: This is how Harper and his brand of conservatives (which has nothing to do with the original progressives) makes government more transparent. Send in the mentally unstable to disrupt parliamentary procedure.
I might be a little cynical, but the New Conservatives have become a party of ideas and potential and have now officially become a group of complete f**kwits.- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:33 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Norman Petit from Calgary, Canada writes: Nothing says 'guilty' like a stunt of this calibre.
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Dropped Acid - Climate change is a socialist conspriacy (I don't think...) from Canada writes: .
Now now, LIEBERALS!!!!!
Just because Mr. Finely can't figure out what day of the week it is, doesn't necessiarily mean he couldn't also mistake a few numbers, etc., right?
Also, pretty soon our beloved conservative party will be changing the rules so that what they did actually becomes legal.
Bada-bing bada-boom! Problem solved.
Remember folks, it's only a crime when other people do it. When conservatives do something, it means the laws need to change.- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:36 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Still Learning at 78 from Canada writes: Mr Control Freak Harper, what is wrong with the Truth.
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Vern McPherson from writes:
The morning session is now adjourned.
Friends the COns got trampled by their own candidates. THeir own candidates were extremely concerned that the CPC had tarnished their reputati9ons and volunteered to come to the committee to tell their story.
THAT'S CPC CANDIDATES - NOT OTHER PARTY'S CANDIDATES !!
The cons are losers on this stuff and it is very clear they will be convicted of election financing irregularities based on the testimony of these four individuals - the 4 witnesses who testified this morning.
This will finish the COns as chief purveyors in the land of accountability and transparency - AND THE LAW AND ORDER PARTY !!
It's quite clear they set out to defraud and steal not only the election but steal illegal refunds from Canadian taxpayers.
Plus their members this morning behaved like hoodlims, cons - bullys especially that Tilson character and magoic train del Maestro.
It looks good on them. They all look stupid. There is no defence for what they did. Throw te book at them and .......
THROW THE LYING BUMS OUT !!!!!- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:36 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Yvonne Wackernagel from Woodville, Canada writes: Shawn Bull from Canada writes: 'Please teach us to be non-biased....we don't have to whine....we are in charge, remember.'
What arrogance! As a past Conservative who worked to put Harper in the Leadership position, I am absolutely disgusted at the depth to which he has allowed the Conservative Party to fall. I knew if we gave him enough rope he would hang himself, but how much does he need? And Finley: well, at least Schreiber acted like a gentleman, even when he was treated with great indignity and at some time had to be rescued by the Committee.
Sleaze, fraud, arrogance; it all disgusts me, and you are in charge?- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:39 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Fake Name from Canada writes: ' D Le5 from Canada writes: We should get tax refunds for everytime an 'honourable' MP acts like a clown - I don't think we'd have to pay taxes again.'
I'd prefer creating a new officer of parliament, charged to taser any doofus that makes a fool of himself.- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:40 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Thomas D'Arcy McGee from Canada writes:
Interesting spin that these Conservatives bring to the idea of the Parliamentary System of Government.
Old John Diefenbaker is spinning in his grave.- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:44 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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M. Thought from Canada writes: My Gawd, this is government is a total embarassment! I wonder if that idiot Peter McKay is proud of what he's brought the Conservative party to. In my view, the true Blue Conservatives always stood a chance as a credible alternative to the Liberals - I knew Harper was a danger to the party. Shame, shame!!
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Phil King from Ottawa, Canada writes: The Globe and Mail editors censor free speech from Canada: I'm shocked that this is being aired on CPAC, and confirmed this fact just to be sure.
These are billed as closed hearings, but clearly they are still open to public scrutiny, which I find odd.
It seems to me that both sides are therefore gambling on the public effect of having Finley dragged out by security on national television.
I suspect partisans on both sides will defend their own and the general public will merely shrug their shoulders and continue to view all politicians as a neccesary evil rated slightly above used-car salesmen.- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:48 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Vern McPherson from writes:
Mad Doug Finley and harper and flanagan and the rest of them can go to the Fraser Inst and fellow themselves into oblivion .........
There ought to be an inquiry in the the Immigration Minister's husband trying to subvert the workings of democracy in our country ..........
Is he mentally unstable or what ?? What kind of stress is the Minister under with this character in tow ??- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:48 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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mike sty - from Canada writes:
CONs = Liars
CONs = Crooks
CONs = CONvicts- Posted 11/08/08 at 1:49 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Joe Canadian from Canada writes: Well, party money is party money. If all parties are utilizing the same practice - and it's a safe bet that they are - then why single out the Conservatives. Why is Elections Canada investigating the Conservatives & no other political party? And did you notice that the NDP is keeping a low profile. Probably because this current fiasco, funded by Canadian taxes, is orchestrated by the Liberals & how loyal is the Liberal appointed head of Elections Canada. And the NDP don't want anything flying


