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Rick Clarke from edmonton, Canada writes: $0.00. How appropriate.
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D M from Toronto, Canada writes: Calling Fahrenheit 9/11 a documentary is a bit of stretch. It was more fiction presented as a documentary.
I investigated a few of the 'facts' that he presented - every one of them was a fabrication.
I'm not a blind supporter of anyone, Republicans or Democrats. I do however prefer not to be spoon fed propaganda.- Posted 05/09/08 at 11:02 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Beer and Popcorn from Toronto, Canada writes:
Michael Moore cannot be trusted- Posted 05/09/08 at 11:23 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Joe Dick from Kingston, Canada writes: I agree D M.
Moore's films make for great entertainment, but he is far too partisan and one-sided to be taken very seriously.- Posted 05/09/08 at 11:25 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Bosco . from Toronto, Canada writes: That's because he knows that nobody other than Liberal nut jobs will pay to see any of his garbage.
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R M from Ottawa, Canada writes:
Wow, what fear and loathing among this group of right wing posters.
Obviously, you all feel he is doing a very effective job, and that if the Dems needed a push to ensure they win, that this will help do it. Thanks for confirming it!- Posted 05/09/08 at 11:48 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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scott myers from Canada Eh., Canada writes: Gee it must be election time. Moore is spitting out more of his liberal propaganda. I wonder if he gets a tax deduction as a political contribution.... LOL
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P Scott from Canada writes: Michael Moore's 'propaganda' (sharing his view, spending his own money instead of tax payers) is far less harmful than the Bush administrations. Remember that Iraq War about WMD and Osama? Yeah, you on the right -- I'm talking to YOU.
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Edmond Dusablon from United States writes: I'd like to have Michael Moore do a follow up and interview Castro after his life-saving surgeries over the past few years. Yup, that Cuban medical system praised by Michael Moore wasn't good enough for Castro when it was his thug a$$ on the line -- he called in foreign doctors to save himself! LOL!
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s like from Canada writes: I've watched some of Moore's films and while there is a lot of truth in them, there's also a lot of truth in Manufacturing Dissent, a film which documents Moore's misleading tactics and less than ethical behaviour.
It's too bad really. Moore sold out for money and ego and has lost credibility as a result.- Posted 05/09/08 at 12:00 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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A E from Canada writes: Seems like Moore tried to show, through his films, that corporate greed was harming the middle class, that America's relationship with guns was seriously damaging, that the political establishment is often in bed with unsavory types while spouting hypocritical rhetoric, and that the health care model is really bad for many Americans. Seems to be noble objectives - and he isn't wrong about a lot of what he says... if we judge Mr. Moore on a certain standard - try and judge the 'real' sources of info, NY Times, CNN, etc. the same way and you just might find there are worse manipulators of truth and massagers of the message...
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Quellcrist Falconer from Canada writes: R M from Ottawa
People having a problem with liberal moral proselytizing? Impossible.
Jonah Goldberg is right.- Posted 05/09/08 at 12:09 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Kia Raju from T.O, Canada writes: To beleive in the WMD lying movie by the Bush Administation and the episode of Tennet and Powell at the U.S is a joke. They still have not found any WMD, only thing they found was millions of barrel of oil.
That was worst then any movie produced by M. Moore.
Joseph Bloggins from Canada writes: P Scott....
You might be interested to know (but unable to comprehend) that several hundred chemical weapons were found in Iraq, and Saddam had all his WMD scientists and technicians ready. Just end the sanctions and add money, and the weapons would be back in production within a yea- Posted 05/09/08 at 12:38 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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john 'trillium boy' smith from Centre of Universe, Canada writes: F 9/11 was the worst film he made, he really put me off but... I liked sarcastic humour of early R. Moore films, like he is visiting an appliance factory in Mexico and asks supervisor if local workers can afford appliances that they make. supervisor replies that it is not an issue: they have no plumming at home so they don't need these washing mashines. I was rolling on the carpet laughing. same with evicting families from their homes on Xmas Eve. you know after all factories moved to mexico and china and everybody lost their jobs. evicted kids standing on the street around their xmas tree - priceless. I know it was staged right, or they were some drug addicted welfare bums that deserved this... ;) and remember? he thinks canada is paradise on earth... remember interviews with OPP in Sarnia, americans partying in Windsor on weekends, people having their front doors unlocked in Toronto... etc I know he is a manipulator most of the time, like when he has the contest who will help a guy laying on the street first. passerby in London (UK), Queen Street Toronto, or some US city. when somebody in London check on the body on sidewalk first, he says this is invalid 'cos the person is a foreigner and waits untill somebody in Toronto reacts, to declare Canada a winner. to posters that hate Moore, this is just a comedy. you should not be offended, just have a sense of homour and laugh with rest of us.
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Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes: Free eh? It's still over-priced. This way all the unemployed lefties that make up his fan base can afford it.
Ever wonder why Moore isn't running the traps for Obama? Because he's political cancer. Nothing but hate comes out of Moore's mouth.- Posted 05/09/08 at 12:46 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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A E from Canada writes: hmm... so if he 'stages' someone getting evicted on x-mas eve, while in reality people ARE actually getting evicted on x-mas eve, is that a metaphor for reality? or just the truth the only realistic way to show it?
he shines a light on a lot of things that don't get discussed as much as the should... if we desire an objective look at the world, we should hold our normal sources of information accountable - TV, papers, web, whatever you like - and demand accuracy and balanced reporting, and maybe even some democratic access to our own media?- Posted 05/09/08 at 12:47 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Steve Gibbons from Calgary, Canada writes: Moore night be a bit dramatic but the fact is he makes many valid points. The far right hates him because he pokes holes in their ideology and shows them what the extent of their thoughtless actions are. Its really just a difference of ideologies. I like Moore's films but I take them for what they are. Blatant exposures of Right Wing mismanagement and failures.
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Tyler Wilson from Toronto, Canada writes: Anyone care to post sources for their 'information?'
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Red-necked and persecuted from Canada writes: Who cares?
Have to admit the Democratic party is a party for all. I wasn't aware, till seeing Moore and entourage, that the party of the Hollywood elite even let in ugly people. Gives them something to laugh at, I suppose.- Posted 05/09/08 at 12:56 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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john 'trillium boy' smith from Centre of Universe, Canada writes: @A E from Canada writes:
well what can I say if you feel pity for a familly with small children being evicted on xmas, you are just a lefty or liberal (or both) ;)
I also have learned from R. Moore films that 12h working day for 12 year old girls (in Asia) is good for them. it is also good for us as most of us have no problems with buying products made by these children. because if you have problem with that do not be surprised that people call you a leftie. ;-)- Posted 05/09/08 at 1:02 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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steve J from Canada writes: My favorite documentary of late is Michael Bay's story about a lost band of robots from cybertron called 'transformers'. Great documentary.
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Silent Majority from Canada writes: To be honest, I think Moore does more harm to the Democrat cause than good.
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Tim Cares from Canada writes: Will it be available in Canada?
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Dave S from Canada writes: Yeesh -- do you all think that Jon Daily, Steven Colbert, or Rick Mercer are defiling the news too?
Politics is about manipulating opinion. Lying and telling half truths is part of the game. Those skewering the politicos themselves are politicos too.
Unclench, crack a beer and enjoy the show. All that ranting and frothing at the mouth must be exhausting.- Posted 05/09/08 at 1:45 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Michael Vanner from Toronto, Canada writes: Check out 'Manufacturing Dissent' a Canadian made documentary by Debbie Melynk and Rick Caine about how Mr. Moore is in fact a narcissistic fabricator bordering upon being a pathological liar.
His documentaries must be viewed with caution as the objects on the screen are not as they appear!- Posted 05/09/08 at 2:13 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Kim Philby from Ottawa, Canada writes: JA M from Our Town: I see you've graduated from the Kindergarten School of Debating.
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Mark S Noel from Canada writes: Micheal Moore isn't he the foreigner who told Canadians to vote Liberal but wasn't charged by the RCMP for breaking Canadian Election Laws? Ya I have a lot of respect for this criminal.
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Al Bore from Canada writes:
That's because nobody wants to pay for this crap anymore.- Posted 05/09/08 at 3:06 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Better to light a small candle than to sit and curse the darkness from Canada writes: Unless you are aleasy a liberal you are either neutral to Moore or hate him.
If a relative gets gunned down or you or a neighbour has to declare bankruptcy due to ill health, then you tend to change your mind. That is unless you are a Conservative or a Republican and then you think,'That was God's will.' ;0/ Duh!
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Better to light a small candle than to sit and curse the darkness from Canada writes: Bosco . from Toronto, Canada writes: That's because he knows that nobody other than Liberal nut jobs will pay to see any of his garbage.
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Republicans and Liberals just cannot get over the idea that
liberals are liberals because they are not wedded to the idea that they have to get the last possible dollar iNto their sticky hands. Most of Obama's donations came in small donations from people like me. I tuned into MULTImillionaire Limbaugh today to get an idea of the value of what he was saying. A stream of lies and half truths unsupported by any reasonable argument is what I heard. Conservatives pay top dollar for that garbage. If only liberals would pay 'to see any of his garbage' as you put it then there must be millions of us around as he has made a lot of money out of his docs and I do NOT think that was his primary motivation.
Conservatives hate the idea that their money is going to help
the sick, disabled or unemployed. Spending it on foreign adventures is just fine however. Weird people, eh?
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Better to light a small candle than to sit and curse the darkness from Canada writes: D M from Toronto, Canada writes: Calling Fahrenheit 9/11 a documentary is a bit of stretch. It was more fiction presented as a documentary.
I investigated a few of the 'facts' that he presented - every one of them was a fabrication.
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Details please. Unless you are a Conservative in which case we really do understand. Life is tough eh?
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Joe Blow from Canada writes: The left has Michael Moore
The right has Rush Limbaugh.
Both of them are earnest buffoons. But at least Moore is entertaining. Sure Roger and Me and the other movies were distortions, but I think that the ends can justify the means--just so long as we don't mistake his work for something just this side of Oliver Stone's JFK
For a laugh take a look at his older stuff from 'The Awful Truth' (?) That wasn't quite as slick and pandering.- Posted 05/09/08 at 4:38 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Biggest Redneck from Somewhere, United States writes: Better to light a small candle than to sit and curse the darkness from Canada
You are correct Micheal Moore and Rush Limbaugh are exactly the same thing. 2 sides of the same coin as it were.
Each spouts absolute lies and half truths as if they were facts and only a sheep of the extreme right or left would listen.
As Moore says ' This one is for the choir '- Posted 05/09/08 at 4:40 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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John Williams from Ajax, Canada writes: The right-wing Neocons are the best liars and propagandists, the fascists are always the best at propaganda.
What is scary is that Stephen Harper is a pretty crummy propagandist, very crude, yet many people believe the lies being put out, and the vulgar Family Man propaganda.
That is why the Necons become so cynical, the mass public has the intelligence of a crowd of sheeple.
Michael Moore exposes these techniques by using them, and that enrages the Neocons. They want people to believe their bible stories.- Posted 05/09/08 at 4:59 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Jenny any Dots from Canada writes: All Moore's films are for the 'choir' as he puts it. One thing I did learn from Moore is a documentary is still a biased piece of work...not only his but all...
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H M from Canada writes: Are you kidding me? I love mockumentaries!
Seriously, I prefer the Canadian political satirists, they make fun of everybody. Maybe not equally, but they do make fun of everybody.
I always thought one of the best things about Cretien (a man I had little respect for) was what a good sport he was about the 22 minutes crowd showing up and 'interviewing' him.
Michael Moore irritates me, because he has so many people believing his movies are the end-all, be-all truth. I am all for messing with the emperor's clothes, but try to at least acknowledge that the sun does not shine out of any Democrat's patooties, either.- Posted 05/09/08 at 5:27 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Joe Dick from Kingston, Canada writes: John Williams from Ajax, Canada writes: The right-wing Neocons are the best liars and propagandists, the fascists are always the best at propaganda.
What is scary is that Stephen Harper is a pretty crummy propagandist, very crude, yet many people believe the lies being put out, and the vulgar Family Man propaganda.
That is why the Necons become so cynical, the mass public has the intelligence of a crowd of sheeple.
Michael Moore exposes these techniques by using them, and that enrages the Neocons. They want people to believe their bible stories.
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Moonbat alert!! Moonbat alert!! Only 4 uses of the word 'neocon'.
You failed the five 'neocon' minimum use. Had you sprinkled in use of the words 'Bush' and 'military industrial complex' you would have passed the moonbat censors.
I guess the term 'militant liberal' would have also sufficed.
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John Williams from Ajax, Canada writes: its amazing how so many people cannot even comprehend the most BASIC level of what Moore does...he is OBVIOUSLY showing how 'truth' is manipulated using media. If you can't even see that, then maybe go back to watching FOX 'news' and believing bible stories.
It seems about 90% of the public is braindead. It truly is scary how literal-minded and thoughtless the mass public is. No wonder leaders become so cynical.- Posted 05/09/08 at 5:37 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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John Williams from Ajax, Canada writes: People like the Neocon Karl Rove know exactly how all of this works. They are using these same techniques as we speak, using the Sarah Palin babygate to distract from the war/economy issues, they want to use the abortion fight to enrage the religious fanatics and create a smokescreen with babies.
Both the right wing and left wing are masters of modern propaganda. Moore uses the same techniques, and also exposes them so people can learn more about them.
But the right wing people are the easiest to dupe, as they will believe almost anything, as long as it fits with their religious beliefs.
The large majority of the mass public seems to have the mental acuity of a goat.- Posted 05/09/08 at 5:44 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Dennis sinneD from Calgary, Canada writes:
Gee... sounds exciting. Go team.- Posted 05/09/08 at 6:28 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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god bless canada from Canada writes: wow for free thats 2 ยข more than its worth. how about he makes a movie about overeating and he can star in it. anouther one he can make is how to be a slob
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John Richardson from toronto, Canada writes: D M from Toronto, Canada writes: Calling Fahrenheit 9/11 a documentary is a bit of stretch. It was more fiction presented as a documentary.
I investigated a few of the 'facts' that he presented - every one of them was a fabrication.
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As one of my friends would say, 'Show us your work'.
There isn't one credible (and I stress credible) source that found any major factual errors that would discredit F 9/11.- Posted 05/09/08 at 6:56 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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john 'trillium boy' smith from Canada writes: @H M from Canada writes:
'Michael Moore irritates me, because he has so many people believing his movies are the end-all, be-all truth. I am all for messing with the emperor's clothes, but try to at least acknowledge that the sun does not shine out of any Democrat's patooties, either.'
to be fair, M. Moore criticizes Democrat's many times in his films and books. he advises us that they are very lazy and americans should watch them closely
and I repeat again, for his coverage (praise) of canada, we should give him honorary citizenship of something ;)- Posted 05/09/08 at 8:22 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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JA M from Our Town, Canada writes: 'Kim Philby from Ottawa, Canada writes: JA M from Our Town: I see you've graduated from the Kindergarten School of Debating.'
LOL - No, just paraphrasing Al Franken. Someone had the post deleted anyways.- Posted 05/09/08 at 8:49 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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wayne sharp from Kapuskasing, Canada writes: Heck I like M.Moore and the way he presents a topic, its about western blindspots. You know he uses props and set up situations etc but the core message is acurate and his technic is to slap us across the face to say 'WAKE UP-see how stupid we can be!' look at what our leaders and manufacturers/CEO's are all about. THE PROPAGANDA MACHINE is not Michel Moore but our governments with their G8 Summits and free trade to increase wages in third World Countries but the results were our wages are being lowered instead??? Yes the empirer is wearing no clothes, Mr Moore has to point this out as most people are ignorent of what's happening. For the real new I find Jon Daily, Steven Colbert & Rick Mercer versions more real as they point out the Dum Factor. :)
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Paul Sallmen from Burnaby, BC, writes: Have to say I'm a little peeved my comment didn't get published. Wonder if it was a computer glitch or it actually got screened out?
In a nutshell, I agree that Moore's movies aren't really documentaries, but are satires on American culture. But don't blame him - blame the partisan hackery (especially right wing) that passes for news in America.
American readers: Demand real news from your media. Both the right and left have constructive ideas to offer. Journalists need to present the facts in a balance way, not beat the Republican drum. Real debate is direly needed. Name calling is unproductive.- Posted 06/09/08 at 1:06 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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glen towner from Hong Kong writes: Roger Moore is an exceptional filmaker who artfully articulates many sytemic problems found in the USA that are perpetrated by large self interest groups who profit at the expense of the general population (or other countries for that matter).
I find it uncomfortable, especially as a Canadian, where access to medical emergency is practically a birthright because of the great Tommy Douglas, that those who write in this comments section especially can not see the misery that so many Americans live in, the desparation of their society and the conflict and death they cause, even in so-called noble causes, ithrougout the world.
Michael Moore expresses a need for a structural change to his society. How can anyone not agree?
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diana diana from Toronto, Canada writes: Saw Michael on Larry King last night - passion, dedication, a sense of humour, intelligent. America needs to get it's young people involved in their destiny instead of this apathetic condition of non participation. If his film helps in anyway he should be thanked. I will be watching - it is available to Canadians and Americans.
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Scenic Sask! from Canada writes: MM will have to sweeten the offer to something a lot more attractive than free for me to watch any of his mocumentaries. I have a low threshold for 'created facts.'
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L Wilgosh from Canada writes: Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes:
Nothing but hate comes out of Moore's mouth.
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And judging from all the right wingnuts comments on this page it would be well placed hate.
So this is what happens when one or two generations grow up without a set of parents teaching values, compassion and decency, letting the kids run wild or being raise by babysitters and kindergarten teachers.
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Mark S Noel from Canada writes: Micheal Moore isn't he the foreigner who told Canadians to vote Liberal but wasn't charged by the RCMP for breaking Canadian Election Laws? Ya I have a lot of respect for this criminal.
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I'm bettin you have nothing but repect for the war criminal bush, who, you would like everyone to believe, that just as Washington and the apple tree, could not tell a lie.
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H M from Canada writes
but try to at least acknowledge that the sun does not shine out of any Democrat's patooties, either.
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Same party, different wing. Republicuns are the mean wing of an extreme right wing party and the Dems are less mean spirited or better actors. Slick Willy may have stuck it to a few, but he did it in a way that made you hate him less. bush and Company will laugh at your pain as they do you.
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D M from Toronto, Canada writes: Tried to respond to some requests for further details at least 10 times. Rewrote it, etc. The filters will not let it past.
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Glen Foley from Canada writes: Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes: Free eh? It's still over-priced. This way all the unemployed lefties that make up his fan base can afford it.
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Unemployed??? What planet are you from?- Posted 06/09/08 at 12:51 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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D M from Toronto, Canada writes: Okay, I got at least the last post through
One area where there were hug problems had to do with the evacuation of Bin Laden's relatives. It did happen, but the details were totally wrong.- Posted 06/09/08 at 12:53 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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D M from Toronto, Canada writes: huge problems.... hug problems are another matter :-)
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D M from Toronto, Canada writes: The flights did not occur the day after 9-11 when all flights were grounded. They occurred over a week later. They were not paid by the US, they were paid by the Saudi Arabian government. The FBI, etc had already interview all of these people.
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Stephen Harper's Ignorant Tories from Canada writes: After Fahrenheit 9/11, there were a ton of 'documentaries' that the far-right put out that supposedly debunked him. Each of those was far more one-sided and false than Fahrenheit 9/11 was thought to be. Yet everything in Fahrenheit 9/11 turned out to be true and rather obvious in hindsight.
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Gail Thomas from Canada writes: Very funny! If he's the best attack dog the extreme left have, he's barking up the wrong tree. The Democratic Party has changed dramatically with the infiltration of the far left hoping to get megga hugs from Putin, Chavez and their ilk. The Republicans got the message and want to cleanup government. It's too bad that the Democrats are interested in more power, and taking from those who have a higher excellence bar, rather than booting out the socialist propaganda machine that their forefathers fought against within and outside of their country. They have a Borg mentality.
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D M from Toronto, Canada writes: Sorry for the rather terse comments - however the filters would not allow me to post a reasonable explanation.
However, Bin Laden's relatives that lived in the US prior to 9-11 is just one example of how much Moore twisted the truth to come up with a good work of fiction.- Posted 06/09/08 at 1:11 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Better to light a small candle than to sit and curse the darkness from Canada writes: H M from Canada writes: Are you kidding me? I love mockumentaries!
Michael Moore irritates me, because he has so many people believing his movies are the end-all, be-all truth.
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Moore is a liberal propagandist. He is perfectly justified in attacking the gun culture of the USA and the thousands of unnecessary deaths that go with it, to my mind. I can't disgree when he points out that many Americans go bankrupt when ill health strikes them. He is justfied when he points out the truth of the saying, 'The business of America is business' by illustrating that sometimes business takes precedence over health, education and a decent life for those of us
who not blessed with the circumstances, parents, skills or intelligence that vaults us into an upper stratum of society.
Like most of us, I am already aware of the above but watch Moore because he is entertaining. I don't think his motive is money which certainly cannot be said for Limbaugh.
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Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes: 'L Wilgosh from Canada writes: Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes:
Nothing but hate comes out of Moore's mouth.
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And judging from all the right wingnuts comments on this page it would be well placed hate.
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You shouldn't hate people, no matter how much their views differ from yours. The ends do NOT justify the means. Relax. Give peace a chance.- Posted 06/09/08 at 2:29 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Hendrick Larose from Canada writes: I saw Michael Moore on CNN last night. Clearly a bitter cynical man. Years ago his stunts were humorous and done in a light hearted way. He has moved to twisting facts and blindly following all things socialist and I think poorly reflects on the democrats because his bitterness is so evident. I guess he is an example of the poll from a few months ago that suggested that Liberals were generally an unhappy bunch compared to the conservatives.
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Better to light a small candle than to sit and curse the darkness from Canada writes: Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes: 'L Wilgosh from Canada writes: Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes:
Nothing but hate comes out of Moore's mouth.
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Not really. People such as high income earners who hate paying fair taxes, insurance executives and hospital administrators, gunshop owners and gun manufacturers and anybody who is threatened by the change that Moore and Obama (and many millions more) wish to bring about are they who attack him. They do not give reasons' that would give away their biases. They say 'he lies', or he is 'full of hate' or he is boring or give a plethora of similar reasons. I have yet to read a Conservative or Republican who makes a reasoned attack on Moore. But that, I guess, is the rightwing way of protecting their turf. So...................what else is new?
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Stephen Harper's Ignorant Tories from Canada writes: What right-wingers consider a 'documentary' is the aptly named 'No Intelligence Allowed.' That should be the sign for every meeting of right-wingers around the world.
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Better to light a small candle than to sit and curse the darkness from Canada writes: Hendrick Larose from Canada writes:
I guess he is an example of the poll from a few months ago that suggested that Liberals were generally an unhappy bunch compared to the conservatives.
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I think that's true. Many Conservatives as Obama says 'Just don't get it'. 'Ignorance', as the saying goes ,'is bliss.' But down the road can lead to unhappiness. Many HAPPY Republicans in the USA are perfectly content if they have no health problems even though they are told many others do have problems and no insurance. Listening to interviews I notice how many people have become instant liberals when they run into health problems. That's not so strange. Some people are unhappy that fellow citizens have no health insurance. They are probably liberals as you state, Hendrick Larose. Perhaps Conservatives either do not care or they 'don't get it', as Obama says. Yes, I think what you say is true.
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L Wilgosh from Canada writes: Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes: 'L Wilgosh from Canada writes: Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes:
Nothing but hate comes out of Moore's mouth.
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You shouldn't hate people, no matter how much their views differ from yours. The ends do NOT justify the means. Relax. Give peace a chance.
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You're the one talking hate. I just said if you're right about Moore's comments being hateful my opinion is that it is well placed hate.
As for giving peace a chance, as a citizen of your country and me as a citizen of mine, let's see whose record of giving peace a chance, as opposed to making war, looks better. I am relaxed.- Posted 06/09/08 at 2:59 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Better to light a small candle than to sit and curse the darkness from Canada writes: D M from Toronto, Canada writes: Calling Fahrenheit 9/11 a documentary is a bit of stretch. It was more fiction presented as a documentary.
I investigated a few of the 'facts' that he presented - every one of them was a fabrication.
*****************************************************Really? In the film, Moore contends that American corporate media were 'cheerleaders' for the 2003 invasion of Iraq and did not provide an accurate and objective analysis of the rationale for the war or the resulting casualties there. The film's attack on the Bush administration generated much controversy around the time of the film's release, including disputes over its accuracy. In response, Moore published an extensive list of facts and sources for the film on his website.
Now let’s have your list of facts and sources to back up your charge of 'fabrications'. Go ahead; we are waiting.
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Better to light a small candle than to sit and curse the darkness from Canada writes: Biggest Redneck from Somewhere, United States writes: Better to light a small candle than to sit and curse the darkness from Canada You are correct Micheal Moore and Rush Limbaugh are exactly the same thing. 2 sides of the same coin as it were. ****************************************************** I did NOT say that Biggest Redneck from Somewhere, United States. Either you can't read or you are spinning like a Repub. My opinion is as follows. Moore is a liberal propagandist. He is perfectly justified in attacking the gun culture of the USA and the thousands of unnecessary deaths that go with it, to my mind. I can't disgree when he points out that many Americans go bankrupt when ill health strikes them. He is justfied when he points out the truth of the saying, 'The business of America is business' by illustrating that sometimes business takes precedence over health, education and a decent life for those of us who not blessed with the circumstances, parents, skills or intelligence that vaults us into an upper stratum of society. Like most of us, I am already aware of the above but watch Moore because he is entertaining. I don't think his motive is money which certainly cannot be said for Limbaugh. If you think that 'Micheal Moore and Rush Limbaugh are exactly the same thing', you're either soft in the head or a supporter of the most unpopular President for many decades, Bush. CYMRO
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Michael Crowell from Halifax, Canada writes: Michael Moore makes my skin crawl. That is the nicest thing I can say about him.
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Hendrick Larose from Canada writes: Better to light a small candle than to sit and curse the darkness from Canada writes: Hendrick Larose from Canada writes:
I guess he is an example of the poll from a few months ago that suggested that Liberals were generally an unhappy bunch compared to the conservatives.
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I think that's true. Many Conservatives as Obama says 'Just don't get it'. 'Ignorance', as the saying goes ,'is bliss.' But down the road can lead to unhappiness. Many HAPPY Republicans in the USA are perfectly content if they have no health problems even though they are told many others do have problems and no insurance.
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No I disagree. Liberal unhappiness comes from reliance on government to care for them and lead them. They have an unhealthy belief in a welfare state. Since government is made up of people, they will always be imperfect and therefore liberals lead dissappointed lives. Conservatives tend to not look to government for help. They are more independent and therefore don't expect something from government and so are rarely dissappointed. Conservatives have more people with faith lives which promotes altruistic values and (statistically shown) to lead to longer healthier lives.
Back to Moore. He personifies the liberal big government thinking so no wonder he has ended up a cynical bitter man as no government can provide the quality of life that Moore expects from his government.- Posted 06/09/08 at 4:16 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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charlie bistro from Toronto (where else??), Canada writes: Moore is Liberal propaganda for sure, and it's entertainment...and I love it, you redneck whiners would feel much better if you just ignored him. Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter et. al, they spin garbage from the Right but Moore beats them at their own game and is much more commercially sucssesfull at it.
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Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes: 'Better to light a small candle than to sit and curse the darkness from Canada writes: Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes: 'L Wilgosh from Canada writes: Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes:
Nothing but hate comes out of Moore's mouth.
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Not really. People such as high income earners who hate paying fair taxes, insurance executives and hospital administrators, gunshop owners and gun manufacturers and anybody who is threatened by the change that Moore and Obama (and many millions more) wish to bring about are they who attack him. They do not give reasons' that would give away their biases. They say 'he lies', or he is 'full of hate' or he is boring or give a plethora of similar reasons. I have yet to read a Conservative or Republican who makes a reasoned attack on Moore.'
No offense then, but you haven't looked very hard. There are more than a few factual, meaty op-eds or even books out there by people across the political spectrum who criticize Moore. Krauthammer to Novak to Coulter have written about him, all with well-reasoned arguments, and with none of the hysterics that Moore excels at. Seek and ye shall find.- Posted 06/09/08 at 8:17 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes: 'L Wilgosh from Canada writes: Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes: 'L Wilgosh from Canada writes: Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes:
Nothing but hate comes out of Moore's mouth.
And judging from all the right wingnuts comments on this page it would be well placed hate.
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You shouldn't hate people, no matter how much their views differ from yours. The ends do NOT justify the means. Relax. Give peace a chance.
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You're the one talking hate. I just said if you're right about Moore's comments being hateful my opinion is that it is well placed hate. '
There is no such thing as 'well-placed' hate. True hate (which I fully believe Moore professes at every opportunity at the country that allows him to say it) is a sign of mental problems. One step away from sociopathy.- Posted 06/09/08 at 8:20 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes: 'Better to light a small candle than to sit and curse the darkness from Canada writes: Hendrick Larose from Canada writes: I guess he is an example of the poll from a few months ago that suggested that Liberals were generally an unhappy bunch compared to the conservatives. ***************************************************** I think that's true. Many Conservatives as Obama says 'Just don't get it'. 'Ignorance', as the saying goes ,'is bliss.' But down the road can lead to unhappiness. Many HAPPY Republicans in the USA are perfectly content if they have no health problems even though they are told many others do have problems and no insurance. Listening to interviews I notice how many people have become instant liberals when they run into health problems. That's not so strange. Some people are unhappy that fellow citizens have no health insurance. They are probably liberals as you state, Hendrick Larose. Perhaps Conservatives either do not care or they 'don't get it', as Obama says. Yes, I think what you say is true' Hmmmm.....I think it just comes down to the a person's thoughts about the government's role in your day-to-day life. I think conservatives are less likely to _want_ government intervention for anything - for instance I don't think some federal machine has any business telling me if I can get my hip replaced. It's my body, I will pay for it. I will not expect others to pay for my (or my family's medical bills). By extension, I don't want to pay for their's. I think people more on the liberal side of things are much more likely to accept and even _want_ government intervention and support across many facets of their life. Hence, the desire for socialized medicine, socialized education, etc. Just a thought.
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A. McDonough from Canada writes: You can download the movie for free but I hear that Michael Moore is accepting free donations of Big Macs and Krispy Kremes - he needs to keep feeding his mind.
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Rick Clarke from edmonton, Canada writes: 'Stephen Harper's Ignorant Tories from Canada writes: What right-wingers consider a 'documentary' is the aptly named 'No Intelligence Allowed.' That should be the sign for every meeting of right-wingers around the world.
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Oh, and your clearly a shining light!- Posted 07/09/08 at 3:36 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Jon Bakker from Mt. Pleasant, United States writes: This is awesome!! Michael Moore is so reliable - he's doing his part again to ensure that the Republicans will retain the presidency of the US, and this time for FREE!!
He must still be getting Christmas cards from John Kerry...- Posted 07/09/08 at 6:40 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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E B from -, Canada writes: I am not a Michael Moore fan, and I take his views, and facts with a grain of salt, however I find it very interesting, how republicans and the far right loves to label Michael Moore's documentaries as fiction, and bring up all the evidence. These are the same people who took the US administration's reason for attacking Iraq as a fact (what was the real reason? we still don't know...), who believe in the intelligent design versus evolution and want this to be part of the curriculum. We do not teach Michael Moore in school, and he is not 'managing' one of the world most powerful country.
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Shaky Lady from guelph, Canada writes: mr.moore's best movies were with that jaws fella with the big silver choppers. Moonraker was alot of fun.
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A S from Toronto, Canada writes: I think Moore goes over the top at times but also believe he tells the stories that gov't and MSM sweep under the rug. However, I'm not sure one can say the Repubs are evil and the Dems are the good guys. There are serious problems in that country for which their gov't is to blame. There were issues under Clinton's admin too (although I still have a crush on him :-) I enjoy visiting the U.S. but am glad to call Toronto home.
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eric nelson from Canada writes: I like alot of movies more then I like alot of newspapers. Alot of magazines are worse then alot of newspapers. Alot of blogs are more interesting then them.
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The Wight from Canada writes: Mark H:
'Krauthammer to Novak to Coulter have written about him, all with well-reasoned arguments, and with none of the hysterics that Moore excels at. Seek and ye shall find.'
Krauthammer, Novak and Coulter?
LOL. Sure, those are unbiased sources. Sure they are. Here's a giant hint: the two founders of the PNAC, William Kristol and Daniel Kagan, are both employed by the Washington Post. Coincidentally, so are Krauthammer and Novak. Krauthammer is a regular contributor to Fox News, as is Coulter. Novak was questioned, in fact, around the Valeria Plame leak due to articles he wrote for the Post.
Novak HAD some cred back in the 1960s, but the other two are such blatant shills that I can't believe you wrote that phrase with a straight face.
My best friend earned his PhD dissecting Coulter's pack of lies she calls her ouvre.- Posted 07/09/08 at 1:51 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Aries The Ram from Canada writes: Michael Moore for president. He doesn't tell anymore lies than the candidates. At least his comments are amusing.
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D M from Toronto, Canada writes: Better to light a small candle blah blah blah
try reading before posting- Posted 07/09/08 at 3:45 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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nick oliver from halifax, ns, Canada writes: Hendrick Larose from Canada writes: Conservatives tend to not look to government for help. They are more independent and therefore don't expect something from government and so are rarely dissappointed. Conservatives have more people with faith lives which promotes altruistic values and (statistically shown) to lead to longer healthier lives.
so when private business like freddie mac and fannie mae are being bailed out by the gov't, and it is characterised as 'necessary for the stability of the economy' by conservative pundits, that's not the very same 'socialism' they say guys like michael moore are advocating for health care?
seems to me conservatives are happy to scream for gov't to get out of the way when the companies in their portfolios are making money, but just as happy to beg for their intervention when their stock is about to tank hard. at least liberals are honest about the fact that they think gov't spending is a necessary thing. conservatives decry all gov't spending right up until their bottom line is in peril. when that happens, gov't handouts become important, necessary and helpful.- Posted 07/09/08 at 4:26 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Mike from Van from Vancouver, Canada writes: I'd like to know what Neil Young material the writer of the article is referring to. The Radiohead release was well publicized of course but I'm not aware of Neil doing anything similiar.
Can any fans out there help me with this?
I spent a bit of time googling and couldn't find any obvious answers.
Thanks!- Posted 07/09/08 at 4:51 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Child of the North in Canada from Canada writes: Shouldn't all the right-wing posters throwing vitriol at Michael Moore be bible-thumping in a church somewhere. Today is Sunday. You know: 'Dear Jesus, save the white babies and stop abortion; do what you want to the ones in Iraq and Afghanistan'. Better yet, why don't you vote conservative then rush down to the nearest recruiting office, sign up and get out there and fight those wars for Stevie and Bush.
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Hendrick Larose from Canada writes: Nick Oliver,
Fannie and Freddie bail out was bi partisan. Most real conservatives rile against government bail outs including banks. I believe this was a threat to the entire mortgage market. The shareholders will lose most of their money so the bail out was more to help the mortgage market not F&F investors- Posted 07/09/08 at 6:48 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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srpro golfer from NEWMARKET, Canada writes: His film is for free for the simple reason that nobody is prepared to pay to watch his drivel anymore.
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Andrew E from Canada writes: Michael Moore to release new film online for free.
I guess since Gore's lifestyle and mansion were exposed, An Inconvenient Truth is a bit of an albatross.
I guess since crime has been decreasing in all states with concealed-carry, Bowling for Columbine is a non-starter.
I guess Moore knows what his next project is worth.- Posted 07/09/08 at 9:16 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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The Wight from Canada writes: Andrew E:
'I guess since crime has been decreasing in all states with concealed-carry, Bowling for Columbine is a non-starter.'
Is it down to Canadian levels, yet? Not even close, even in those states with concealed carry?
Didn't think so.- Posted 08/09/08 at 1:15 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes: "The Wight from Canada writes: Mark H:
'Krauthammer to Novak to Coulter have written about him, all with well-reasoned arguments, and with none of the hysterics that Moore excels at. Seek and ye shall find.'
Krauthammer, Novak and Coulter?
LOL. Sure, those are unbiased sources"
I didn't say they were unbiased - they surely are. However, that doesn't mean they can't be correct.- Posted 08/09/08 at 8:46 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Harper's reign of terror must come to an end from Calgary, Canada writes: .
Ummmm....
Just a quick not to the film bashers out there....
No one is forcing you to watch it, you douche-bags.- Posted 08/09/08 at 9:05 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Harper's reign of terror must come to an end from Calgary, Canada writes: Mark H from Columbus, IN, United States writes:
'Krauthammer to Novak to Coulter have written about him, all with well-reasoned arguments, and with none of the hysterics that Moore excels at. Seek and ye shall find.
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LOL!!!
Funniest line ever!!! Leave it to a right-winger to go ahead and embarrass themselves by thinking people like Novak and Coulter are anything other than bitter, angry, and petty partisans!!!
That line of reasoning might work in the Palin household, but to people who have even the slightest bit of education, that has got to be one of the funniest lines ever!- Posted 08/09/08 at 9:09 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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J M from GTA, Canada writes: I am having a laugh, enjoying the left vs right, right vs wrong, up vs down, Moore vs Moore, this vs that if you are this, don't you dare hit me with your purse type of online anonymous battles. A bunch of opinions, either in the Moore movies and posters opinions here being quoted as facts is hilarious ( someone actually said two others opinions are facts as well, great stuff ). "Dear Jesus, save the white babies", funny because it's true?
So please, to the majority of posters, why use a large word when diminutive will suffice?


