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Turn off CNN and focus on Canada, May urges voters

BILL CURRY

Globe and Mail Update

Latest comment posted at 1:25 AM EST 08/09/08

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  1. Al Bore from Ottawa, Canada writes:

    I will focus on Canada.

    And that's why I'm voting Conservative.

    You, Miss May, sound silly.
  2. George Tesseris from Toronto, Canada writes: So Mr. Harper thinks we should choose between common sense and risky experiments?

    Well the riskiest experiment going is one that the Conservatives and the Liberals endorse, and that the Greens and NDP don't: Ethanol.

    http://stopethanol.blogspot.com/
  3. Abe MacIntosh from Canada writes: Unfortunately, Elizabeth May does not get enough coverage. She is a neighbour and friend of mine and of course I am going to vote for her. When I first met her, I was impressed by her freshness. She is not a jaded politician. She has real ideas and plans and when she has a chance to get her message out, it is quite obvious that she has a depth that is unknown. We are likely to elect far worse than her in the upcoming election. Those who dismiss and ridicule her do so out of their own ignorance.

    If you are ignorant on a topic then before making statements, learn your subject. Otherwise, your opinion, being without knowledge, is of no value.
  4. Jay Bronwin from Gatineau, Canada writes: A Green party vote is a wasted vote. Only the simple minded will vote a party based on one issue, even though it may be an important one.

    Only real party on the left is NDP, no one else stands for 'Change you can believe in'.
  5. Abe MacIntosh from Canada writes:
    NDP, ah yes, they're the Ralph Nader party of Canada. First they defeat the government of Mr. Martin, giving us the Conservatives, then they want to do it a second time. VOTE RALPH, you'll regret it but you'll be smug about it.
  6. Oldowleyes . from the end of the line, Canada writes: To the cons, libs, ndp, bloc and greens (no caps required); In no other country in the world do citizens pay so much in tax (past 25 years), then when a surplus finally comes, give it to the upper class and rich (conservatives) and businesses. Any wonder, why with such high tax rates on average citizens that the gap between the haves (low business taxes, big business subsidies, pampered gov't unions, big tax breaks for the rich and upper middle class, loads of tax sucking NGO's) and the have not's (high taxes on the average private sector wage earners w/severely reduced supports such EI and welfare). Be rest assured, I will be voting with my values, since none of your parties support average Canadians. I will do the only thing I can. Leave the brain sickles in Canada and move to a country that cares about their citizens more than IDEOLOGY, THE ELITE, PS UNIONS, AND/OR SCHEMES to spend money. Have fun paying for all the medical bills and pensions that are coming, the well off will leave to retire in warmer climes, but so will the smart (innovation oriented), not as well off, yet, to seize an opportunities unavailable in this top heavy aristocratic society.
  7. William J Gillies from Canada writes: Jay Bronwin from Gatineau, Canada writes: 'Only the simple minded will vote a party based on one issue, even though it may be an important one.'

    Only the simple minded will make pre-judgements based on their existing biases.

    The Green Party platform covers all sectors:

    http://greenparty.ca/visiongreen
  8. scott thomas from Canada writes: Cons think that because May opposes them that she should have no voice in the debates. But all of the parties want Harper out. Her party represents over 5% of the electorate, and has only one seat in the House of Commons. If anyone deserves more of a voice it's her.
  9. Abe MacIntosh from Canada writes:
    Umm, Mr. Oldowleyes, I'd like to know where you're going. I want to go there also. Shangri-La?
  10. Ms E. May from Ottawa, Canada writes: Hi! Are you an MP with a sordid financial past? An MP with a criminal record? Or have you thought that such a record would keep you out of Federal politics? Are you viewed as such a political hot potato that even the ethically challenged Liberals and Conservatives won't touch you?

    Don't worry - Join the Green Party! We've got millions in federal tax dollars scammed from, er received from Elections Canada and we want to give it to you! Learn what being 'green' means to us - lots of Federal 'green' $$$ that you can spend anyway you like!

    No credit - No problem!

    bad credit - no problem!

    criminal record - Let's talk!

    The Green Party - Your path to lots of green federal $$$.

    Proof of financial irregularities and criminal activity required. Must be over 18.
  11. William J Gillies from Canada writes: Ms E. May from Ottawa, Canada writes: 'Hi! Are you an MP with a sordid financial past?'

    The Conservative War Room is right at work. I hope they're paying more than call centre rates.
  12. Dan L from Montreal, Canada writes: 'Jay Bronwin from Gatineau, Canada writes: Only real party on the left is NDP.'

    You mean the party that brought down the Liberals in 2006 and killed a National child care program? The party that put the Conservatives into power?

    The NDP lost all credibility when Jack Layton shot down the Liberals Green Shift, a plan endorsed by every environmentalist out there including David Suzuki.

    Layton has turned into a partisan hack. At least the Green's don't reject good ideas simply because they are from another party.
  13. Unrepentant Outdoorsman from Dominican Republic writes: William J Gillies from Canada writes:
    The Conservative War Room is right at work. I hope they're paying more than call centre rates.
    Betcha they are, how much are the Libbys paying their boiler room staff to post Willie?
  14. Jay Bronwin from Gatineau, Canada writes: My biases against Green party members are based largely on what i see...party supporters driving gas guzzling SUV's, party supporters wearing overpriced MEC outdoor wear made by underpaid workers, etc..

    Let's face it, Green party voters are focused on one important issue only, how simple minded is that??
  15. Ms E. May from Ottawa, Canada writes:
    William J Gillies, how can you say that? I learned the art of federal politics from the 300,000 dollar man himself - Brian Mulroney - my friend and political mentor. Federal politics is all about being green - lots of 'green' federal dollars and anywhere else we can get it - especially from inlaws that my MP has stole millions from in bogus mortgages - mortgages that the inlaws won't press charges over because my MP is married to their daughter...this is the kind of perfect con, that we in the Green Party appreciate. It shows real artistry, just like my mentor Brian.
  16. Paul Mueller from Guelph, Ontario, Canada writes: Jay Bronwin from Gatineau, Canada writes: 'A Green party vote is a wasted vote. Only the simple minded will vote a party based on one issue, even though it may be an important one. Only real party on the left is NDP'

    Actually I will be supporting my local Green candidate Mike Nagy and until a few years ago I was a card carrying member of the Conservative Party. (I first voted PC in 1968 when Bob Stanfield was leader and with the exception of the election in '93 after Mulroney, have always supported the PC's...until this 'reformer' crowd took-over.) There are many ex-conservatives in the Green party that I know, as well as former supporters of the Liberals & NDP; and even more refreshing are the young people who are just getting into politics!

    Now a vote for Jack Layton...now there is a wasted vote if I ever heard of one.

    Join the party friends; it’s the fastest growing party in Canada and the only one not led by a professional politician, and the one with a view of Canada that reaches out past the next election.
  17. Jimmy K from Toronto, Canada writes: I can't believe we are now taking the GREEN party seriously. The Green party is a single issue, useless runt of a party. What's their policy on, say, trade? On healthcare reform? On the military and Afghanistan? On foreign policy? Education? Taxes and the budget? The economy?

    You can't answer every question with something about Kyoto, greenhouse gases, or sustainability. Forget the Greens.
  18. Undisclosed recipient from Canada writes: Wow, lots of negativity directed toward Elizabeth May in the comments. She must be on to something!
  19. Undisclosed recipient from Canada writes: Jimmy K:

    Actually you can use the environment and its care as an analogy of how we look after our society and the world.

    Have you checked out the Green Party's Vision Green?

    http://greenparty.ca/visiongreen
  20. D. MacKay from Atlantic, Canada writes:
    Undisclosed recipient from Canada:

    I agree.

    She most definitely is on something.

    Good call.
  21. Klaus Gieger from Moffat, Ontario, Canada writes: Paul Mueller: I agree whole-heartedly with your comment!

    I too am a former PC member and as I've gotten a little older I've become much more concerned with what kind of world that we are leaving for my grand-children.

    Are the Greens a one issue party? I think that there is more to them than that, however I would add that if the environment continues to degrade, that all other issues (e.g., economy, health-care, energy, security) will be driven by this reality.

    I also agree that the Greens do take a longer term approach to problems, and I really appreciate that. I'm very saddened that my old party the PC's are now led by a cynical vote grabber like Harper.
  22. Joe Black from Saskatoon, Canada writes: I'm impressed with the message, even if as a pragmatist I probably won't be voting Green.

    You DO have a say over what happens here, no matter how small. Why obsess over things you have NO control over (ie. American Politics) to the point of neglecting your own backyard?

    Besides, we wouldn't want them meddling in our politics so why meddle in theirs? There are no easy line ups between Republican and Democrat and Canadian parties as alot of the partisan posturers like to pretend on here. They're both well to the right of all mainstream Canadian parties on many issues.

    Canada will ultimately get the government its citizens give it, and the citizens will get what they deserve.
  23. D. MacKay from Atlantic, Canada writes:

    Abe MacIntosh from Canada writes: Unfortunately, Elizabeth May does not get enough coverage.

    ==============================================

    Good Gawd , Abe.

    Every week this ' leader' is in the media voicing her opinion .

    'Her not being a jaded politician' comment?

    I don't know about you, Abe, but I was certainly on pins and needles waiting who was going to cut her the backroom deal first in Central Nova , NDP or Liberal.

    You must remember all that CTV coverage where she repeatedly said no deals were being made? Imagine my surprise when both the NDP and Liberals had been contacted and confirmed she had been lying all along.

    She has no moral high ground to preach from.
  24. Pete Kauchak, Green Tory from Cascadia, Canada writes: I'm a former Conservative Party member which plans to vote Green this time. Why? Because the Liberals are environmental cowards. Another reason is that the current government can't recognize that climate change is a serious threat to this planet. The world's scientists have spoken en masse and said we have to be 80% below 1990 levels to avoid a disaster.
  25. Abe MacIntosh from Canada writes:
    Anybody, including me can make a comment here, but there is that most vetted of sites, the Letters to the Editor. All of you who read the Globe online ought to consider reading the physical paper. The letters there are succinct and make good points. For example, this one about the debates and opinions.

    theglobeandmail.com-5/TPStory/?query=strasfeld

    I've tried and tried but can't get a letter published. I would wager that no one here has ever had one published either. It puts our opinions into perspective.

    My comment above about speaking from ignorance is reinforced as evidenced by comments that followed it by Jay Bronwin, William J Gillies, Ms E. May (clever pseudonym that...you must be so proud of yourself for thinking of it), Jimmy K. Have any of your read the Green Party platform?

    Mr. Harper does not want to hear from those with opinions that are not the same as his.
  26. mech eng from calgary, Canada writes: Well, I don't think the Green Party will make much of a break through this campaign. May's bid to be included in the leader's debate will draw more scrutiny from the press onto her candidates.

    One has already been dropped, there are some rumblings about 'anti-Jewish' candidates in Ottawa, and this is only day 1.

    I've seen some comments from people in the know around the internet that some candidates were selected by showing up to run for the nomination with a handful of their friends. The GP's goal was a full slate, but unfortunately that means they will have some issues with the vetting process.

    Best of luck though...I don't predict a breakthrough for the greens until the next election. They need to run this campaign to get some experience as a 'main stream' party before they are ready for prime time.

    Go Harper!
  27. mynalee johnstone from saltspring island, Canada writes: I watched the news this am. Elizabeth May was THE BEST SPEAKER. She is obviously very informed, intelligent and... could outshine Harper in any debate. She knows her stuff about all issues. I hope we hear often from her. SHE MUST be included in the debates. It would be a SIN to not allow Canadians to hear from one of the world's most talented women and politician.
  28. Michael Sharp from Victoria, Canada writes:

    Speaking of Ms. May, what do the Rhinos think?
  29. mynalee johnstone from saltspring island, Canada writes: Elizabeth May won me over with her speech this am. She is intelligent, articulate and well versed on all issues. She would outshine Harper in any debate. I really want to hear more from this talented Canadian woman. She MUST be included in the debates.
  30. Sassy Lassie from Canada writes: LOL her speech was hilarious, she appeared to be on the verge of tears at one point. I had to shut off the TV, I couldn't take her and Laytons marxist blathering anymore.

    Global Warming has been debunked, the greens are a day late and a dollar short. I hope she isn't included in the debates, her mewling will only cause me further embarrassment being a Native Blue Noser.
  31. John Connor from Canada writes: mynalee: Elizabeth May has not been elected into the House, nor was her MP elected as a Green. She is therefore not entitled to officially debate the issues, neither is her turncoat Liberal opportunist who will get his a$$ handed to him shortly by the BC electorate. If she wins her seat, she has earned the right to debate, until then, she gets a soapbox in a park in Guelph. As to outshining Harper, or Layton, doubtful. My hamster can outshine Dion so there's no contest there I'm afraid.
  32. Lane Myers from Canada writes: The Party is a party that is long on ideals but short on reality.

    Why waste your vote?
  33. Journey Man from Ontario, Canada writes: I'm happy to see some other ex-Tory's have also found a home with the Green Party. I'm in that category too.

    The Conservative shrills, such as those who seem to spend an inordinate amount of time of these boards, don't like to hear about this trend and can only use insults against Elizabeth May. I wonder if Harper thinks that tactics like this will actually win people such as myself back to the party?
  34. Geoffrey May from Canada writes: mech ing from calgary.Harper has a huge advantage over May.All his caucus knows to keep their mouths shut, but the Green Party is full of free thinkers.Harper doesn't have to worry about riding associations nominating innapprpriate candidates , he picks his own, regardless of what the riding associating wants.Green Party isn't running a full slate, they are not opposing Bill Casey in Cumberalnd-Colchester-Musquodoboit Harper won't allow Bill Casey to be a conservative, bacuse Casey won't say black is white when Harper tells him to.
    As for your smearing theGreen party as anti-semitics , Harper is the one who rejected the Canadian Jewish Congress's appeal not to hold the election on the first day of Sukkot.
  35. Journey Man from Ontario, Canada writes: John Connor from Canada writes: mynalee: Elizabeth May...if she wins her seat, she has earned the right to debate...

    I wonder if you will also apply this logic to the Ontario elections? The debate will consist of McGuinty, the new NDP leader, and that's it. You see one John Tory also failed to win his seat in the last provincial election if memory serves.
  36. Journey Man from Ontario, Canada writes: Yeah, Liberal criminals as opposed to Conservative criminals such as Lyin Brian Mulroney and these crooked election funding deals that the pristine Conservatives have cooked up.

    Lets be honest, neither the Conservatives nor the Liberals are particularly clean when it comes to how they run their parties.
  37. rick from river city from Canada writes: Two green parties, two green policies, two inept leaders whose policy will never see the light of day. Those on the left center do not have much of a choice between May and Dion other than on gender. Canada needs strong leadership during tough ecomomic times. It isnt here.
  38. 4Cryin Outloud from Canada writes: mech eng from calgary, Canada writes: Well, I don't think the Green Party will make much of a break through this campaign. May's bid to be included in the leader's debate will draw more scrutiny from the press onto her candidates.

    One has already been dropped, there are some rumblings about 'anti-Jewish' candidates in Ottawa, and this is only day 1.

    I've seen some comments from people in the know around the internet that some candidates were selected by showing up to run for the nomination with a handful of their friends. The GP's goal was a full slate, but unfortunately that means they will have some issues with the vetting process.

    Go Harper!

    Have you even looked at who is sitting in the seats in the HOC under the Harper Party? Have you heard any news about them in the past, (before they were all mummified by Harper of course(, any of them saying inappropriate things about minority groups or ethnic groups?

    If you can say that the Harper Party is clean on these issues you should not be voting because you don't know enough about who you are voting for.
  39. Tree Hugger from Parksville, Canada writes: I am supporting the Greens because I think that global warming is real and something needs to be done about it. Hopefully if enough people vote green, whoever wins the election will get the message.

    The scientists, being responsible people, couch their predictions in all kinds of 'escape' phrases. However, it does appear that the consensus is that we have a problem. It does appear that millions will suffer. There will be trillions in losses. It does appear to be quite cataclysmic. Hopefully the IPCC scientists are wrong. But I wouldn't count on it.
  40. D. MacKay from Atlantic, Canada writes:

    Geoffrey May:

    Sorry but the facts on E.May's'high morals decision 're: Bill Casey riding.

    Casey -- 46%
    Conservatives -- 20%
    Liberals --- 10%
    Greenies --- 5%

    The Green candidate jumped to Halifax where polling was higher.

    Apparently there aren't enough Greenies to go around.
  41. Walter Mak from Waterloo, Canada writes: Paul Mueller, from Guelph: I drove through Guelph the other day and was quite surprised by the number of Green signs on the lawns for the by-election. These were on people's properties too, not just on the boulevards.

    It really got me thinking that they do have a good chance here. I also understand that the original (elected) Conservative candidate was ousted in favour of a hand-picked person by Harper.

    And Klaus Gieger, great post:
    I just became eligible to vote and I think that I will vote for the Greens too. Cheers!
  42. 4Cryin Outloud from Canada writes: I don't think this will come as a surprise to anyone, I dislike party politics even more than I dislike Harper and the cowards that run under his leadership.

    I saw all the leaders speak today and I must say that Dion, given his first real opportunity to 'shine' comes across as very sincere and he even warmed my heart in the same way Trudeau could with his obvious love of this country. Jack Layton, as much as I agree with much of their policies came across as opportunistic although I do not question his loyalty to this country either. And then came Elizabeth May! WOW! What a competent speaker and really an inspiration to those of us looking for a party that want the people in charge rather than the 'Government'. I really appreciated what she said about people at the doors she's been going to saying they are tired of voting because the government always get in.

    I belonged to the BC Green Party and now I think it may be time to look at them federally for me. The BC Provincial Greens pushed for electoral reform and I was involved in working to making that vote happen but alas people would rather let some backwards bunch of goupies govern them instead of taking responsibility for their own governing. Like May said the Greens are a global movement and in my mind citizens of the globe are who will be needed to combate globalization which is in my mind is essentially responsible for global environmental degradation.
  43. Walter Mak from Waterloo, Canada writes: Many of the posters think that a vote for the Green's is a wasted vote. Well I can tell you that as a 19-year old university student, me and many of my friends will be 'wasting' our vote on them, after all, isn't that our choice in a democracy?

    Besides if I didn't have them to vote for I probably wouldn't vote at all. I can't stand Harper and all of his negativity, the Liberals are rife with crooks, and the NDP are just a bunch of old union guys.
  44. Devon Babin from Ottawa, Canada writes: I don't think May has a chance against MacKay, and that is too bad. She is doing the smart thing and looking at the many Canadians who don't vote, even though they are eligible. Last election about 65 per cent of voters showed up to the polls. That is a huge section of our population that didn't. Focus on them, win them over, and you will have a huge wave of support. Not an easy task, but a valid one. She might not win a seat, but I think the Greens have nowhere to go but up. They will get a couple of seats....hopefully

    Devon
    http://theramblingsofafrustratedjournalist.blogspot.com/
  45. gary wilson from Calgary, writes: Shockingly there may actually be a party to vote for that isn't driven primarily by partisan gain ahead of and too often at the expense of the country's interest. Harper is as blinded by power thirst as I've ever seen in my voting lifetime. Dion may or may not be honorable but his party has convinced him to water down his policies and sell out to pandering. Layton is the biggest disappointment because he started off so promising in terms of sincerity, but has turned out no different than the others, unabashedly selling out for partisan gain.

    Liz May is refreshing. She represents change. Willing to work across partisan lines. The Green Party policies listed on their website are new, intelligent and focused on true beneficial change for Canada. I'm impressed.
  46. William J Gillies from Canada writes: Abe MacIntosh from Canada writes: 'My comment above about speaking from ignorance is reinforced as evidenced by comments that followed it by Jay Bronwin, William J Gillies, Ms E. May (clever pseudonym that...you must be so proud of yourself for thinking of it), Jimmy K. Have any of your read the Green Party platform?'

    You've tossed me into the recycle bin in error, Abe ...
  47. Armchair Politician from Kelowna, Canada writes: I can't believe Elizabeth and I have found common ground. She's right, it is definitely is Canada, and NOT the greeeen party we want to concern ourselves with.
  48. William J Gillies from Canada writes: rick from river city from Canada writes: 'Canada needs strong leadership during tough ecomomic times.'

    We don't expect the neocons to fix the wheel they broke.

    Disaster capitalism at it's finest: make a mess then hire your friends to control it.
  49. Ricky for a Centrist Canada from Canada writes:
    To the idiot with the offensive smear against the LPC as their username:

    1. Which LPC MP's were 'convicted'?

    2. You have a pretty ignorant and uninformed interpretation of the effects of globalization. You must be a CPC hack.

    You know, the ones who said climate change is a communist plot - then came up with half-baked plans to counter it, so they could buy votes?

    Idiot.
  50. William J Gillies from Canada writes: Liberals don't know their butt from a hole in the ground, Canada writes: 'That explains why the least 'globalized' places (Madagascar, Cuba, most of sub-saharan Africa) are the most degraded? And the most 'globalized' for example Canada, the US, Europe, are the cleanest?'

    Typical neocon trope: globalized = rich. The developed world has been sucking the resources of the undeveloped world, including their human lives, since ships were first invented.
  51. John Lemay from Burns Lake, Canada writes: I notice all the immature and vicious comments above are made by people who do not have the courage of their convictions, they hide behind fictitious names to spew out their venom. You have a chance in these forums to present some intelligent debate. Sarcasm begets sarcasm.
    Elizabeth May represents around 10% of voters, in a fair vote system it would be much higher. She would be an added assest to national debates by the leaders.
    Want to help restore Canadian democracy, read http://www.fairvotecanada.org. Join today
  52. Liberals don't know their butt from a hole in the ground, Canada writes: Walter Mak 'It really got me thinking that they do have a good chance here.'

    So ask yourself why Shreke wouldn't run in Guelph?
    Best chance in the country and she turned her nose up at it?
  53. Doctor X from Erewhon, New Zealand writes: I am glad to see the emergence of a Green party in Canada, but it will only siphon off more voted from the other opposition parties, and ensure a Conservative win. Greens need to work with the NDP and Liberals to get proportional representation enacted. Then they can go back to be a viable alternative.
    Also, could anyone explain to me the Green Party's position on Afghanistan? Last I heard, they wanted to keep Canadian troops there, but have them bake brownies and teach Afghan kids how to say 'please' and 'thank you'.
  54. Funny Fuzzy Bunny from Saskatoon, Canada writes: Of course the Conservatives don't want May at the debate, it would add another point of view to the dialog they are trying to narrow and restrict to their own talking points.
    Plus four against one makes him look like a nut.
    Harper's Conservatives always want to restrict information and debate, as their actions show.
    They will do ANYTHING for the sake of power, including taking away freedoms, which the end result is tyranny.
  55. lisa fonseca from Canada writes: It's a welcome change to have someone as well spoken and as passionate as May when she speaks about our country.

    I agree that there are too many jaded Canadians when it comes to the political process.

    Whether you like her or not, she adds a lot to the political dialogue of our country, and it's this kind of discourse that we're lacking and which makes for a healthy democracy.

    The many people on here critizing her and the greens need to look more closely at what she represents and what her party wants to do.

    Stop with the knee jerk reaction of the greens being just a 'one issue party.'
  56. Trudeau's Apricot poodle from Canada writes: The good thing about the green fringe is they will draw enough votes to prevent the Nanny Dictatorship Philanderers from getting anywhere.
  57. ms. harper from sarnia, Canada writes: Those espousing the Green Party is a one-note party has some catching up to do!! There is indeed a 'green' ethic or framework underlying their policies - but they cover an immense amound of ground. The Liberals, Conservatives also have an ethic or framework underlying their direction... but they have access to a public podium. I think we should give the Green Party leader a podium from which to deliver the Green Party multi-policy platform with clarity...

    Many comments in this 'semi-moderated' conversation highlight a lack of knowledge on this WORLD-know party.
  58. bill johnson from Canada, Canada writes: Elizabeth May has done a deplorable job getting her party in the news. Non-compete clause with Dion. Fawning behaviour for same. [Really, Liz, look at his lack of accomplishment while he was Environment Minister]. First Green MP a displaced and ethically (oxymoron, I know) and financially challenged Liberal MP. Lack or improper screening of candidates, including an anti-semite. Allowing the gang of 4 from Ottawa to hijack the party. Lack of discipline, lack of leadership, lack of credibility. Green Party 2008. One has to wonder is Liz is intentionally destroying the party.

    For the record, I will vote CPC, but would have loved to vote for a green party that stuck to basics. Trade off environmental taxes for steep, across-the-board income tax cuts. [real ones, not Dion's chaotic recipe]
  59. Liam Smith from Canada writes: Hey all you old guys!! How's the bitchin' goin'? Lookin' good! I particularly like the red lettering on Liberals Don't Know Their Butt's name! Awesome. And I love that most posters don't seem to know almost anything about ANY of the party platforms . . . even their beloved CPC platform.

    I must be confused because I was under the impression that one would base ones vote on the platform and policies of a particular party or candidate but clearly voting is about principles. Am I right? Or am I right?
  60. D. MacKay from Atlantic, Canada writes:

    Dion hears voices , like Joan of Arc

    Birds of a feather ....
  61. Liam Smith from Canada writes: Liberals Don't Know Yadda Yadda Yadda writes: 4Cryin 'globalization which is in my mind is essentially responsible for global environmental degradation'

    That explains why the least 'globalized' places (Madagascar, Cuba, most of sub-saharan Africa) are the most degraded? And the most 'globalized' for example Canada, the US, Europe, are the cleanest? I think you need school more than you need a political party.

    *****************************************

    If I am to take an estimate of your knowledge and/or critical thinking abilities from the above post, I think that you need school too . . . before they allow you in a voting booth.
  62. Prairie Duststorm from Edmonton, Canada writes: Michael Sharp from Victoria, Canada writes:

    Speaking of Ms. May, what do the Rhinos think

    The Liberals killed the Rhino Party in 1993 with Bill C-114. What a shame.
  63. bill williams from Canada writes: -

    Harper's comments are revelatory: in fact, May WOULD say many of the same things that Dion would. If Harper wins even a majority it will be in the face of the fact that a clear majority want him out of government. Why shouldn't the debate stage be populated by people who, for one reason or another, despise the Conservative agenda? That's the way the country at large feels. His views SHOULD be isolated; they ARE isolated. He will govern because the rest of the country can't agree on the alternative, but that they DO agree that he should be gone. Will they gang up on him in debate? I certainly hope so.

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  64. St. Anselm from Mexico City, Mexico writes:

    The Greens have a kid running in my riding; nevertheless I'll vote for him. I'm impressed by Elizabeth May, and depressed by Harper and Dion.
  65. Jim McBob from Ottawa, Canada writes: Ms May should tell her candidates to do the same. The Ottawa four and their crackpot views on the middle East have destroyed any credibility the Greens might have with me.
  66. Sassy Lassie from Canada writes: Well if she wants Canadians to focus on Canada does that mean she's abandoning the hoax of 'Global Warming' nothing Canadian about Global Warming it's a European hoax isn't it??

    Poor dear could use a 'Make over' and some lip stick and a nice hair cut.
  67. Walter Mak from Waterloo, Canada writes: Liberals don't know writes: 'I can understand why you may perceive Harper as negative, but after you study some economics you may understand him a bit better.'

    Yeah, give us tax cuts, increase spending, and put the country into deficit. That Harper is a real economic genius alright. Between him and Jim Flaherty I'm sure who is the biggest economic disaster.
  68. Liberals don't know their butt from a hole in the ground, Canada writes: I encourage all you who follow Suzuki, Gore, Naomi Kline, and Noam Chomsky to get behinde Green Shreke and waste your votes.

    Thank you.
  69. Michael Sharp from Victoria, Canada writes:

    May talks to God, like Bush.

    It's not good.
  70. Malcolm Thistle from Thornhill, Canada writes: 'May urges voters to focus on Canada.' Voters urge May to shed her idealogical strait jacket and do the same thing.
  71. St. Anselm from Mexico City, Mexico writes: Michael Sharp from Victoria, Canada writes: May talks to God, like Bush.

    ---

    Mikey, May talks WITH God. Bush thinks HE'S God.

    There's a difference.
  72. Liberals don't know their butt from a hole in the ground, Canada writes: St. Anselm
    'Mikey, May talks WITH God. Bush thinks HE'S God.'

    OK, but Bush actually exists,

    Elizabeth May talks to an invisible friend theat no one ever sees, like Snuffalopagus.

    There's a difference.

    And Shreke is the one making up imaginary things!!
  73. John Connor from Canada writes: Journey Man from Ontario, Canada writes: John Connor from Canada writes: mynalee: Elizabeth May...if she wins her seat, she has earned the right to debate...

    I wonder if you will also apply this logic to the Ontario elections? The debate will consist of McGuinty, the new NDP leader, and that's it. You see one John Tory also failed to win his seat in the last provincial election if memory serves.

    Correct Journeyman. And I had the same view on that one as well. I wish the stupid prig HAD been excluded from the debate. He might have won... :)
  74. St. Anselm from Mexico City, Mexico writes: Liberals d k t b f a h i t g (if you want more responses to your messages, you should shorten your name) writes: Elizabeth May talks to an invisible friend.
    --

    People find their moral compass in different ways.

    Some quote authorities such as holy books in order to justify their own greed and ambition (Bush, bin Laden). Quoting authority is a smoke screen. These people have no moral compass.

    Others use Platonic dialogues with imaginary deities as a method to investigate and access what is really their own internal spirituality.

    What method do you use to find your moral compass? You do have one, don't you?
  75. D. MacKay from Atlantic, Canada writes:

    What's with the time posts?
  76. Liberals don't know their butt from a hole in the ground, Canada writes: St. Anselm 'Some quote authorities such as holy books in order to justify their own greed and ambition (Big Green Shreke May). Quoting authority is a smoke screen. These people have no moral compass.'

    So little, in her case, that she made a deal with the disgusting criminal thug liberal party. No moral compass at all.
  77. Dr Riff from Canada writes: the only reason these environmentalists like suzuki jump on the green bandwagon is because they're beneficiaries of green tax dollars.
  78. Sam I. AM from St. Louis, MO, United States writes: Now that Global Warming/Climate Change has been revealed for the hoax that it is, why would anybody in their right mind want to vote for this silly party?
  79. Hugo Hall from Calgary, Canada writes: The Green party, under Ms. May, sounds more like a spinoff of the Liberal Party than the innovative, non-ideological party with a new way of thinking that it was styled as under her predecessor. Pity. Newsflash, Ms. May - we don't need a fourth left-wing party.
  80. Abe MacIntosh from Canada writes:
    Sorry William Gilles, I disparaged you unfairly.
  81. Don Adams, the Conservative Centrist from Canada writes: May? May who? Elizabeth May? Who's she? Oh yeah, another one of those fringe party wingnuts. What a waste of taxpayers $$ giving funding to any 'Party' other than Cons, Libz, and Dippers. :-)
  82. Don Adams, the Conservative Centrist from Canada writes: Mind you, I wouldn't object to taxpayers funding the Rhinos for
    $ 500K or so.... adds a bit of comic relief.... we could pay for it out of the 'Arts' budget. :-)
  83. Michael Sharp from Victoria, Canada writes:

    St. Anselm from Mexico City, Mexico?

    May talks to God, just like Bush.
    As in, a reciprocating conversation.

    If it's not OK for Bush to do this, it's not OK for May to do this.

    It's creepy.
  84. mech eng from calgary, Canada writes: Haha. I make a simple comment about there being a couple of issues in the first few days of a campaign regarding vetting of candidates, and I am immediately accused of smearing the entire Green Party as being anti-semites and told I'm not smart enough to vote.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see each party drop a candidate over the course of the campaign.

    It's just this time the Green Party wants to be treated like a real party. They had better expect that their candidates will be scrutinized. Running a full slate is not good enough anymore, now you need to find 308 quality candidates. Welcome to the grownup table children. Play nice, or you'll be sent back to eat with the kids.

    I saw CPAC interview all of the candidates for the St. Lambert riding in Quebec. The Green Party candidate wasn't in the same league as the rest of them. Couldn't even answer the question about why people should vote for her.
  85. martha stewart from Canada writes: Elizabeth May will no doubt provide lots of entertainment during this campaign.

    Already she informs us that we must live on this planet.

    Who knew?
  86. Poly Incorrect from Toronto, Canada writes: Most people should NOT vote. Read:

    http://newworldparty.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=75
  87. Joe Black from Saskatoon, Canada writes: Judging by the amount of Tory flies this article managed to attract, their must be some honey in Ms. May's message.

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