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  1. Eel Expert from Canada writes: Dion is right about this one.
  2. Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Harper makes promises and reneges. Ask Danny Williams and Bill Casey.
  3. Lection Fever from east to west all across, Canada writes: I think 'the people' have made clear who has delivered on promises, and what organization simply has not, ever. Even despite six years of full out liberal feramongering and lies 'The people' have it right.
  4. Gogh Forit from Canada writes: Catherine Wilkie: I didn't hear how Mr. Dion would stop businesses from passing on the costs of his green shift/shaft to consumers on top of what he's going to do to individual Canadians. While you're content on repeating the same old, tired rhetoric about Harper's credibility how about informing us about how the environmental saviour Mr. Dion will do against those businesses who bear the brunt of this onerous and odious tax scheme. This plan is the latest Liberal attempt to line their pockets....again, while inflicting more quality of life damage on Canadian families. Dion's plan would essentially leave Canadians with a standard of living now enjoyed by the Cuban people. The Liberals may become a government again but not this decade and not with this leader. I do see where Justin Trudeau is running for the Liberals in Montreal and the future will likely lie with PE jr. much to the chagrin of both Bob Rae and Michael Ignatieff who both feel that they can take the party farther than Dion could only hope. It seems, Catherine, that Dion was elected as a stop-gap while the party scrambled to get itself out of the political wilderness left by Chretien with the host of scandals and missing billions that surrounded his time as PM. Here's two suggestions for Liberals to do better in future elections. Stop lying and stop stealing.
  5. Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: The economy is tanking and Harper is applying a sweater and make-up.
  6. Henry Allen from East Bank, Don River, Canada writes:
    Dion, the mouse that tried to roar. As a person, I like Stephane Dion. Nice guy, loves Canada, intelligent. But, when it comes to persuasion skills, Stephane has serious problems; he has no charisma and poor communication abilities. My wife referred to the Liberals as dead meat when Dion was proclaimed the new leader of the Liberals. And she is strongly Liberal in her voting behaviour. By this absence of leadership, the Liberals appear to be handing Stephen Harper the majority he craves. All because of the war that started between the Bob Ray and Michael Ignatieff gangs, and the decision by Liberals to choose Stephane Dion as the least offensive leader. I have news for the Liberals. You don't choose a leader because he's an inoffensive compromise. You choose a leader because s/he has the best qualities to lead and govern. Time for the Liberals to re-invent themselves, starting with a new leader.
  7. Richard Soley from writes: Dion and company let's see, THe ADSCAM for a starter, my favorite is the Business Jets purchased instead of equpment for the military, then of course the heilcopter deal where the taxpayer paid 500 million as a penality for the cancelled deal, of course the Liberals unfunded the Canadian Military to the point it arrived in Afghanistan in Green gard and needed spray paint to como their equipment. As far as Mr. Dion is concerned the Green shaft would solve the problem moving tax money from the west to the east and he says Harper can't be trusted, Sorry as a taxpayer I am tired of the twisting of facts by politicans particularly the Liberals!
  8. M Jones from Canada writes: Dion, you are untested and perceived as weak. Why are you better than Harper? You don't/won't/can't say because you haven't a clue. The Libs drove this country into the ground and the voters should give you a chance? Why? All you can do is vilify Harper without telling the voters what you stand for. Oh, I forgot, you change your tune daily. You didn't even have the nuts to bring down the government when you had countless chances. Finally Harper called your bluff, and you complain about that too. Go away. I predict an NDP Official Opposition and a Con majority. Cons everywhere, make sure you VOTE!!
  9. Liberals are OK ............. If you cook em long enough from Canada writes:
    Cathy Wilkie - you are a bigot and a hypocrit.

    Allow me to once again remind you what you stated in a previous blog.

    'Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Lukiwski has declared how the A team and B team mentality pervades the fears of some.
    Many post here.'

    Not 20 minutes later you posted

    'Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Larry Murphy: We know your team. You're a Baird booster.'

    Answer for your statements. They are your own words. Not mine.

    I am posting them just as you wrote them verbatim .

    Your continuing to avoid answering them will not make them go away. You made the statements. Now stand behind them or apologize to those you offended.

    Please explain your homophobic, bigoted remarks and your continued hypocritical tendency to criticize others while exhibiting exactly the traits you criticize.
  10. Stan L from Canada writes: Gogh Forit from Canada writes: Catherine Wilkie: I didn't hear how Mr. Dion would stop businesses from passing on the costs of his green shift/shaft to consumers on top of what he's going to do to individual Canadians.

    Have you heard that from Harper and Layton? Becuase they haven't either. The fact is that Dion's plan accomodates the shift by offsets in income tax cuts, incentives for buisness and consumers and additonal aid for industry, the rural folks and the elderly, tax what you don't want (carbon, pollution and incent what you do want new 'green'business, resposnible stewardship of the environment and income tax cuts)......Layton and Harper have given you empty rhetoric and no plan, just a lot of hot air screamed at you and that is not a substitute for a plan.
  11. trust us , stay the course , big oil will feed you from Canada writes:
    OTTAWA — Conservative Leader Stephen Harper will sharpen his attacks on Stéphane Dion starting today, as new polls show the Liberal Leader is failing to connect with voters or talk about the issues that mean the most to them.
  12. Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Danny Williams is strong with his opinion that Harper cannot be trusted. Bill Casey understands that Harper reneges on his promises.
    Income trust investors believed Harper when he made a promise during the last election campaign and they flipped.
    Judging future behaviour on past actions is fair. Harper is not trust-worthy.
  13. Robert Dryburgh from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada writes: Most of Canada’s economic wows are as a result of what is happening South of the boarder and elsewhere in the world. Dion’s green shaft will only worsen conditions here and most people are painfully aware. Watching him speak live on the CBC this morning, I was almost embarrassed for him, listening to the paltry applause he was receiving. He'is a dud right out of the gate and the voters know it.
  14. Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Liberals are OK: You are a Conservative troll.
  15. Stan L from Canada writes: M Jones from Canada writes: Dion, you are untested and perceived as weak. Why are you better than Harper? You don't/won't/can't say because you haven't a clue. The Libs drove this country into the ground and the voters should give you a chance?

    Uhmm...in 2006 they left the country in good economic shape with a 13 billion dollar budget surplus...now we are in a deficit situation....who drove what into what ground? Just in case you haven't noticed it's the Conservatives who have been running the country for the past 2 and half years, it's their record that should be under the microscope here.....but if you are content to ignore all of that, be my guest.
  16. Lection Fever from east to west all across, Canada writes: The economy is 'tanking' and Dion wants to apply massive new taxes on everything. What a goof.
  17. trust us , stay the course , big oil will feed you from Canada writes:

    ' Most of Canada’s economic wows are as a result of what is happening South of the boarder and elsewhere in the world. '

    Trust us , stay the course , the surge is working !
  18. Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: If Harper's lips are moving....
  19. Stan L from Canada writes: Lection Fever from east to west all across, Canada writes: The economy is 'tanking' and Dion wants to apply massive new taxes on everything. What a goof.

    Wow, such drivel from troll land. You really are interested in letting all here know that you don't have a clue? When did Dion...in fact when did any of the leaders espouse a tax on everything? The answer is no one is pushing a tax on everything...what a ridiculous thing to say, what contempt you have for the people you think you are influencing.
  20. ray reid from Niagara Falls, writes: i love how all the tory trolls come out saying the Libs drove the country in the ground.. if you mean by that rescuing the country from deficit and recovering it from what papers were calling eventual 3rd world status, then i guess you're right. the fact is that the libs have the economic management, the tories don't. the libs were the ones who correctly adapted the paradigm shift of balanced budgets, and once again they are prepared to adjust to the needed paradigm shift of sustainable economic. less tax on your income, tax pollution. it's simple. your good behaviour will be rewarded. what's haper's plan? none - it's to put on a banana republic sweater and a fake smile. if he ever gets a majority, some of us might actually hope we'll be living in the US. scary.
  21. Prairie Duststorm from Edmonton, Canada writes: Thankfully the liberals will not be forming the next government, I resent the thought of living in a welfare state. A hand up people not a hand out. No freebies here.
  22. Prairie Duststorm from Edmonton, Canada writes: Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Danny Williams is strong with his opinion that Harper cannot be trusted. Bill Casey understands that Harper reneges on his promises.
    Income trust investors believed Harper when he made a promise during the last election campaign and they flipped.
    Judging future behaviour on past actions is fair. Harper is not trust-worthy

    I agree, that is why the liberals are not getting my vote.
  23. Lection Fever from coast to coast in, Canada writes: Stan L ' When did Dion..espouse a tax on everything'

    A new additional tax on energy is a tax on everything. Everything in a modern society uses energy, and energy already has a price, and is already taxed as are all other inputs.

    Dion thinks that we should add more taxes to the price of everything to achieve nothing but the contraction of our economy and the handicapping of our industries. He is a fool.
  24. Liberals are OK ............. If you cook em long enough from Canada writes:

    Cathy Wilkie - a serious question has been posed to you about homophobic bigoted statements that you made on this very site in an earlier blog.

    Your continuing to avoid answering them will not make them go away. You made the statements. Now stand behind them or apologize to those you offended.

    Allow me to once again remind you what you stated in a previous blog.

    'Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Lukiwski has declared how the A team and B team mentality pervades the fears of some.
    Many post here.'

    Not 20 minutes later you posted

    'Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Larry Murphy: We know your team. You're a Baird booster.'

    Please explain your homophobic, bigoted remarks and your continued hypocritical tendency to criticize others while exhibiting exactly the traits you criticize.
  25. Stan L from Canada writes: Prairie Duststorm from Edmonton, Canada writes: Thankfully the liberals will not be forming the next government, I resent the thought of living in a welfare state. A hand up people not a hand out. No freebies here.

    Then you must be hoping for a Green win or something like that. Becuase reducing consumption taxes is about as much of an empty hand out that I can think of (the most recent promise being the cut on diesel tax).....short of the empty promises to auto workers that is....
  26. Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Liberals are OK: You are a Conservative troll.
  27. Lection Fever from coast to coast in, Canada writes: Stan L 'in 2006 they left the country in good economic shape with a 13 billion dollar budget surplus'

    and only $450 Billion left to go in paying down the accumulated compound interest on the liberal debt

    '...now we are in a deficit situation....'

    Lie.
  28. Stan L from Canada writes: Lection Fever from coast to coast in, Canada writes: Stan L ' When did Dion..espouse a tax on everything'
    A new additional tax on energy is a tax on everything. Everything in a modern society uses energy, and energy already has a price, and is already taxed as are all other inputs.
    Dion thinks that we should add more taxes to the price of everything to achieve nothing but the contraction of our economy and the handicapping of our industries. He is a fool.

    No sorry, mentioning this drivel above without mentioning the requisite and accompanying incentive and cuts proposed is disiingenuous and misleading trolldom at its best......try again with a thoughtful analysis of the positions of the partys and then come back and try and say the same.
  29. Lection Fever from coast to coast in, Canada writes: Wilkie libbot - you haven't posted a thought for months now. Just dumping libslogans and running - and would you please answer the call as to what you meant by implying that someone's sexual orientation was worthy of condemnation? Not very 'liberal' is it wilkFraser?
  30. Harvey Mushman from cambridge, Canada writes: Stan L from Canada writes: 'Uhmm...in 2006 they left the country in good economic shape with a 13 billion dollar budget surplus...' Yes...we need to get back to having a 'prosperous government.' The Green Shift will accomplish this.
  31. Lection Fever from Canada writes: Stan L No sorry Stan, mentioning the fact that liberals have never, ever cut taxes closes the loop on this idiotic massive tax grab that Dion proposes.
  32. Fred Draper from Kingston, Canada writes: A: you were promised a double layer chocolate cake by Martin and allowed to eat it too.

    B. You are now getting a single layer cake by Harper, while still eating it.

    C. Therefore, the gift is smaller than what Harper promised, and you are very much aggrieved.

    Am I the only one who sees the Alice in Wonderland quality to this outrage?

    Wilkie Lessons in Hypocrisy 101:

    You cannot back Ontario in its quest for equality and NL at the same time. At least try to be consistent.
  33. West Virginian Albino Mexican from Canada writes: Saw Dion's appearence on CBC - two Liberal bobbleheads behind him and the sounds of about a dozrn trained seals clapping in front of him.

    If that doesn't inspire the masses nothing will.
  34. Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Liberals are OK: You are a Conservative troll.
  35. Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: A bear market. Yikes! Harper spent the surplus to buy votes and now is trying to outrun the bad economic news.
    Families are suffering under the loss of home equity, increased personal debt, increased prices in gas, food, heating.
    Harper is bad for the economy.
  36. Stan L from Canada writes: And getting back to the article, Harper can't be trusted for many reasons beyond what the article mentions. For example, did Canadians want or need a new copyright bill? a new bill that is even more draconian that it's US counterpart on which the legislation is based? It's not the job of the government to take the tired and dated business model of the US music and movie industry and legislate it into profitability via draconian and unfair restrictions on fair use, allwoing then to sue the pants off of average Canadians as a toolo for generating revenue......and the yet the Conservatives like to claim that they are all for letting the free market dictate industry performace...rubbish. If bill-61 goes through, most people who own and iPod and put their CDs on them will be breaking the law....for starters.
  37. David Layzell from Guelph, Canada writes: What a waste this election is. I'm tired of this partisan circus. I feel that Harper and Dion have such potential to work together. They hold fairly opposite beliefs, but are about equally passionate about them. If they could only keep from sincerely trying to damage/undermine one another, they could probably do well to keep each other in check, and develop more sensible, balanced solutions to Canada's problems.

    Instead we get slander, manipulations of perception on opposing policy, and outright lies. What a waste.
  38. Lection Fever from coast to coast in, Canada writes: Catherine Wilkie / Clod Fraser 'Judging future behaviour on past actions is fair.'

    Now that says it all for the future of the criminal lying party.

    David Orchard, David Freaking Orchard - far left whack-job - will be a sitting liberal MP after this election! There you go! This party is finshed.
    Who is going to give money to a party represented by David Orchard to clear up their massive multi-million dollars in debt??
  39. Harvey Mushman from cambridge, Canada writes: Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: 'Families are suffering under the loss of home equity, increased personal debt, increased prices in gas, food, heating.' And Dion's solution to this is to increase taxes and inflation? No wonder he can't sell the Green Shift even in his recent simple 'six word' message. Canadians seem to understand it in just four words...'more taxes, higher inflation.'
  40. Prairie Duststorm from Edmonton, Canada writes: Stan L from Canada writes: Prairie Duststorm from Edmonton, Canada writes: Thankfully the liberals will not be forming the next government, I resent the thought of living in a welfare state. A hand up people not a hand out. No freebies here.

    Then you must be hoping for a Green win or something like that. Becuase reducing consumption taxes is about as much of an empty hand out that I can think of (the most recent promise being the cut on diesel tax).....short of the empty promises to auto workers that is

    The NDP, the Liberal and the Greens want to much control over our daily lives and pocket books. Sort of like living in a huge commune for the good of the leader. I do not want the government to save me from myself, for what they percieve as my betterment.
  41. Tim Dowell from Canada writes: 'Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: The economy is tanking and Harper is applying a sweater and make-up. '

    Catherine, surely you can do better than this.

    Is this the same Dion that let down his supporters by abstaining from vote after vote in parliament while at the same time telling all who would listen, (not many really) that he was dead set against the Conservative policies? Yeah I'd trust this guy too...
  42. C Bruner from Canada writes: Lection Fever - Shameless gang! Who are you talking about? Dion hasn't yet been in power, and you are talking about two teams ago - you remember? Chretien?

    I'm a former PC and unless you are in Mr. Harper's War Room being paid to blog nonsense like' Dion is French Toast..Back to France, fast' you should probably read about MR. HARPER'S GOVERNMENT SCANDALS here - http://www.scandalpedia.ca/Scandals.html

    The worst is that this election was called by Mr. Harper to avoid answering for the Conservative Party's cheating on Elections Canada's rules.(in and out).
  43. Durward Saar from Canada writes: Catherine Wilkie I see you crawled out from under your rock so lets play the facts game.
    Liberals promised to eliminate the GST..Lie.
    Liberals promised to tear up Nafta..Lie(thank god)
    Liberal Promisd to fix health-care for a generation,,Lie
    Liberals promised to end child poverty by 2000. It's worse so another Lie.
    Liberals promised their gay marrage law would not lead to legal poligimy..Big big lie.
    Liberals promised to cut taxes and did for a one yr time period but raised EI premiums killing the tax break, another Lie.
    Liberals promised unity but near lost Quebec and re-created old strifes, another Lie.
    Getting the picture.
    Liberals cannot be trusted.
    Oh and they don't pay their debts either, $49,000,000 still missing from Adscam and Dion missed his first payment after the extension.
    Deadbeats don't make good leaders.
    Got any of that 49,000,000 kickin around Cathrine? LOL
  44. Greg Out West from Canada writes: Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: The economy is tanking and Harper is applying a sweater and make-up.
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    Seems the majority of Canadians don't mind.
  45. Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Ouch. The barrel price of oil is dropping, yet Canadians are paying more for gas at the pump? Gouging?
    From Garth Turner: Our government would immediately restore the office of Petroleum Price Information which the Conservatives killed off. This would provide an invaluable influence over the oil companies, forcing them to give advance notice of price hikes and assisting the competition watchdog with new information. Liberals will also strengthen the enforcement teeth in the Competition Act to put gougers out of business. More important in the long-term, we’ll pour new resources into making alternative fuels competitive, and helping people afford hybrids. Besides, the Green Shift will cut income taxes so people have more cash to offset obscene and capricious price hikes at the pumps.
    Harper is a friend to the oil executives.
  46. Stan L from Canada writes: Durward Saar from Canada....why do the Conservative faithful insist on fighting the innuendo and scandal mongering of past govenments....we can have a debate all day about the historical significance of all government past promises, perceived promised and etc.....but when are you going to get it into your head that it's the Conservatives that have been ruling for the past two and a half years, the Conservatives promises and policy that is what is open for scrutiny and whether or not current opposition has better policy in place. So far Harper has a dismal record of keeping promsies, has a dismal reccord of economic management, has a dismal record ont he international stage, has a dismal record of improving trade and foreign investment, and there is some good policy given out as alternatives by other party's.
  47. Beyazet Ilderim from Scarborough?, Canada writes: Hey Catherine Wilkie, did you read M Jones from Canada comment?
    A very good one.

    Now, the all country of Canada knows that the Libs are thieves. In the place I am from, supporting a thief is also thievery. Think about and make sure you never go there! They have Liberal unfriendly jails.
  48. Vern Chavez from Canada writes: Liberals......recycling another of the Cretien era fear-mongering tactics......with the help of the sycophantic news agencies of Canada.... I'm not kidding.

    You have Puffin Daddy Williams acting like a mafia don out on Rock-Ridge, and Everyone's Second Choice trying to resuscitate his career when the other bagmen are circling the wagons for his demise.

    This is just too rich.
  49. Mike Quinlan from Gatineau QC, Canada writes: News flash to Catherine Wilkie-- The day Jim Flaherty announced he was cancelling the income trusts, was the day I realized that our present government actually cares about the integrity and health of our economy. For the life of me I do not understand either your thinking, nor that of the supposidely progressive Dion's position on the matter.
  50. Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: The economy is tanking and the Conservatives are playing school yard games.
    Serious concerns met with irrelevant swipes.
    Harper. A risk for the future.
  51. Vern Chavez from Canada writes: ray reid from Niagara Falls, writes:

    the fact is that the libs have the economic management, the tories don't. the libs were the ones who correctly adapted the paradigm shift of balanced budgets

    My god. How in the world do you explain the amount of money spent on social engineering that went on, and then with a straight face said 'we balanced the budget'?
    Creating agencies that were outside the realm of the Auditor General to inspect, and shuffling money around inside various departments at specific times to make them appear within their budget, that's how.
    Promised social spending on Daycare, etc., that were forgotten when it was time to appear 'balanced'.
    Your talking points don't stand up to scrutiny there dingus.
  52. Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Mike Quinlan: 'News flash to Catherine Wilkie-- The day Jim Flaherty announced he was cancelling the income trusts, was the day I realized that our present government actually cares about the integrity and health of our economy.' Well, Harper and Flaherty both lied about their intention re income trusts to win votes in the election. Flaherty/Harper are not trustworthy.
  53. Reg Anderson from Canada writes: None of our political party governments can be trusted. They are brought in by overwelming media bias from time to time to keep the appearence that we live in a democracy.

    We saw it with the GST.
    We saw it with the NAFTA.
    We saw it with the WAR.
    We're seeing with the Green Shift.

    Wake up people. Stop arguing who is better. Its a misconception. You're all being taken for a ride.
  54. Tim Dowell from Canada writes: 'Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: The economy is tanking and the Conservatives are playing school yard games.
    Serious concerns met with irrelevant swipes.
    Harper. A risk for the future. '

    I can't think of anything intelligent to write anymore so I will just put forth endless posts of drivel :(
  55. Erin Voegeli from Canada writes: M Jones from Canada writes: 'Dion, you are untested and perceived as weak'

    So what? Harper was untested, and regarding Dion, perceptions vary on who you allow to influence your opinion of someone. It seems you are just repeating the conservative mantra.
  56. Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Tim Dowell: You're excused.
  57. West Virginian Albino Mexican from Canada writes: Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Ouch. The barrel price of oil is dropping, yet Canadians are paying more for gas at the pump? Gouging?

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    Once again your igonorance is on display.

    It takes quite a bit of time for a drop in oil to become a corresponding drop in gas.

    As well, the price of gas is based not only on supply/demand but is set to correspond to the price of a gallon of gasoline on the New York Mercantile Exchange - not the price of a barrel of crude oil.
  58. Giggles T from Canada writes: 2004...2006...now 2008 - each recent election it's the 'same old same old' fear-mongering from the Liberals about the Conservatives.

    How lame is it for a major political party to be using this worn-out tactic year after year after year?

    Stephane Dion says - 'Don't vote for the Liberals because they have earned and deserve your vote - vote for the Liberals only because Stephen Harper is SCARY!/is not sincere/has a (forever) hidden agenda (hidden for how many years now?)/can't be trusted/eats kittens/will turn Canada into the 51st state/you name it reason.

    I'm glad the Liberals are all into recycling, but this one is a dud that should just be thrown out.
  59. Harvey Mushman from cambridge, Canada writes: Stan L from Canada writes: Durward Saar from Canada....'when are you going to get it into your head that it's the Conservatives that have been ruling for the past two and a half years, the Conservatives promises and policy that is what is open for scrutiny and whether or not current opposition has better policy in place. So far Harper has a dismal record of keeping promsies, has a dismal reccord of economic management, has a dismal record ont he international stage, has a dismal record of improving trade and foreign investment...' Let's accept...for the sake of argument...your contention that the Harper government is truly dismal... worst ever, bad for Canada and Canadians. Why would you then support the Dion Liberals who actively worked to keep Harper in power for over 2 years? Seems to me you should be a Jack Layton fan.
  60. Liberals are OK ............. If you cook em long enough from Canada writes:
    Cathy Wilkie - Explain your contempt for homosexuals. I note that you don't deny it.

    Your continuing to avoid answering for your statements will not make them go away. You made the statements. Now stand behind them or apologize to those you offended.

    Allow me to once again remind you what you stated in a previous blog.

    'Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Lukiwski has declared how the A team and B team mentality pervades the fears of some.
    Many post here.'

    Not 20 minutes later you posted

    'Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Larry Murphy: We know your team. You're a Baird booster.'

    Please explain your homophobic, bigoted remarks and your continued hypocritical tendency to criticize others while exhibiting exactly the traits you criticize.
  61. Lection Fever from coast to coast in, Canada writes: C Bruner 'Shameless gang! Who are you talking about? Dion hasn't yet been in power'

    Liar.
    Dion wasn't in power in the criminal cabinet of thug thief Chretien?
    What did he get done again?
    That's right, nothing.
    But he was part of a criminal gang in power.
    No shame.
  62. Greg Out West from Canada writes: Hundreds of post and a third are from cathy. Can this girl type or what. She's like super women in a red cape.
    You go girl.
  63. Harvey Mushman from cambridge, Canada writes: Stan L from Canada writes: Durward Saar from Canada....'when are you going to get it into your head that it's the Conservatives that have been ruling for the past two and a half years, the Conservatives promises and policy that is what is open for scrutiny and whether or not current opposition has better policy in place. So far Harper has a dismal record of keeping promsies, has a dismal reccord of economic management, has a dismal record ont he international stage, has a dismal record of improving trade and foreign investment...' Let's accept...for the sake of argument...your contention that the Harper government is truly dismal... worst ever, bad for Canada and Canadians. Why would you then support the Dion Liberals who actively worked to keep Harper in power for over 2 years? Seems to me you should be a Jack Layton fan.
  64. Peter Cox from Hulst, Canada writes: Catherine Wilkie from Canada writes: Liberals are OK: You are a Conservative troll.

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    Catherine, I have never seen such desparate scribbles such as those you have been posting today! Nary a fact, just dumb assertions!

    I have always expected better quality from a paid Liberal troll such as yourself!

    Have a good one!
  65. West Virginian Albino Mexican from Canada writes: 'Carbon tax woes dog Dion'

    ST. JOHN'S, NFLD — Newfoundlanders are 'afraid' of Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion's carbon tax, says a former Liberal cabinet minister.

    John Efford said people in the province may distrust Prime Minister Stephen Harper, but they're afraid that the proposed carbon tax is going drive up the cost of fuel.

    http://www.thestar.com/FederalElection/article/499381
  66. Lection Fever from coast to coast in, Canada writes: Stan L ' insist on fighting the innuendo and scandal mongering of past govenments'

    Like Dion wasn't IN the cabinet of the corrupt failed Chretien government and he refuses to purge the party of everyone connected to that era - and still refuses to name the names of the MPs who recieved the infamous brown envelope money!!

    There are charges and money recoveries still to come from that same criminal party !! (according to the RCMP)
  67. Johnny Test from Pork Belly, Canada writes: Dion should talk coming from a party that didn't keep any promises since 1993 despite majority after majority. Torontonians got sick of hearing constant reannouncements of harbor front funding that never materialized.
  68. A S from Canada writes: 'I do see where Justin Trudeau is running for the Liberals in Montreal and the future will likely lie with PE jr. much to the chagrin of both Bob Rae and Michael Ignatieff'

    Help us all if another Trudeau becomes PM.
  69. daryl M from calgary, Canada writes: The Liberals have a track record of expensive boon-doggles.

    With the WORLD economies in a slow down now is not the time to trust those jokers with the Green Shift. Raise the price of everything we buy...and trust us..you'll get it back at tax time....sure...sure.
  70. Stan L from Canada writes: Harvey Mushman from cambridge, Canada writes: ... worst ever, bad for Canada and Canadians. Why would you then support the Dion Liberals who actively worked to keep Harper in power for over 2 years? Seems to me you should be a Jack Layton fan. Well, I am glad you asked becuase it brings up another of Harper's broken promises. Harper pledged with his minority to work with opposition and with the provincial premiers, he put forth this promise about democracy in Canada....,'Make all votes in Parliament, except the budget and main estimates, 'free votes' for ordinary Members of Parliament.' Not only did Harper not make all votes free, he made all votes confidence motions, threatening Canadians and the opposition at every turn. It did not matter that we did not want an election, it did not matter than we wanted parliment to work, it did not matter what expense a quick election would take, it did not matter that none of the opposition were in a position to fight a fair election, it did not matter what was wanted by anyone but Harper......I find this one of the most reprensible of his broken promises, becuase he took our democracy and made a game of it, playing chicken with our country is not the sign of a leader who respects our country, and blaming the opposition for trying to keep is simply an attempt to try and justify very bad behaviour.
  71. Lection Fever from coast to coast in, Canada writes: Reg Anderson ' They are brought in by overwelming media bias from time to time to keep the appearence that we live in a democracy.'

    'We saw it with the GST.
    We saw it with the NAFTA.'

    WTF?

    The press printed/played every and all arguments that could be marshalled by John Turner and Maude Barlow and every other anti-trade kook and played them loud and clear over and over again. The CBC played nothing but their 'arguments' . Democracy worked anyway. Thank god.
  72. Harvey Mushman from cambridge, Canada writes: Stan L...so again...I ask...why would you support Dion? The man solely responsible for Harper being in power for so long?
  73. Olivia Brownbeck from Canada writes: Yet another Liberal candidate distancing themselves from Dion's ill conceived carbon tax policy.

    Rural and Altantic Canadians have no choice but to heat with oil or coal fire plants. Currently the cost of retrofitting their homes is often too expensive. This is why the NDP cap and trade proposal is the better option for Canadians. First there is a hard cap on industrial polluters and they pay for the pollution they generate. The money from the sale of credits offsets green retrofits for Canadian homes. New furnaces that burn less carbon producing fuel coupled with better windows and insulation will reduce their carbon emissions and their offset any additional costs that might trickle down from energy sector. The brunt of the cap and trade cost is born by the big emitters.

    In order for a carbon tax to actually reduce emissions it has to be broadly -applied and that will mean that it won't simply be on heating costs but on consumer goods as well.
  74. Stan L from Canada writes: Harvey Mushman from cambridge, Canada writes: ... worst ever, bad for Canada and Canadians. Why would you then support the Dion Liberals who actively worked to keep Harper in power for over 2 years? Seems to me you should be a Jack Layton fan. Well, I am glad you asked becuase it brings up another of Harper's broken promises. Harper pledged with his minority to work with opposition and with the provincial premiers, he put forth this promise about democracy in Canada....,'Make all votes in Parliament, except the budget and main estimates, 'free votes' for ordinary Members of Parliament.' Not only did Harper not make all votes free, he made all votes confidence motions, threatening Canadians and the opposition at every turn. It did not matter that we did not want an election, it did not matter than we wanted parliment to work, it did not matter what expense a quick election would take, it did not matter that none of the opposition were in a position to fight a fair election, it did not matter what was wanted by anyone but Harper......I find this one of the most reprensible of his broken promises, becuase he took our democracy and made a game of it, playing chicken with our country is not the sign of a leader who respects our country, and blaming the opposition for trying to keep is simply an attempt to try and justify very bad behaviour.
  75. Chris Halford from Ottawa, Canada writes: Lection Fever from coast to coast in, Canada writes: Stan L ' insist on fighting the innuendo and scandal mongering of past govenments' Like Dion wasn't IN the cabinet of the corrupt failed Chretien government and he refuses to purge the party of everyone connected to that era - and still refuses to name the names of the MPs who recieved the infamous brown envelope money!! There are charges and money recoveries still to come from that same criminal party !! (according to the RCMP) ------------------------------------------------------ Chretien's government did not fail - Paul Martin destroyed the Liberal party in his blind rush for power and it was his government that failed. Chretien's government was very successful - if your mind can reach that far back, Chretien and Martin got rid of a huge deficit left by Brian Mulroney. I'm surprised you didn't like that government - it went pretty far to the Right. As to whether the Liberal party stole anything from anybody, the RCMP have NOT established that. The net is getting closer to the Qhebec wing of the party now that the RCMP seem to be going after Corriveau after Brault ratted him out - let's see what happens. I may have to eat my words but there is no proof at this point that the Liberals stole any of the Adscam money.
  76. Chris Halford from Ottawa, Canada writes: Lection Fever from coast to coast in, Canada writes: Stan L ' insist on fighting the innuendo and scandal mongering of past govenments' Like Dion wasn't IN the cabinet of the corrupt failed Chretien government and he refuses to purge the party of everyone connected to that era - and still refuses to name the names of the MPs who recieved the infamous brown envelope money!! There are charges and money recoveries still to come from that same criminal party !! (according to the RCMP) ------------------------------------------------------ Chretien's government did not fail - Paul Martin destroyed the Liberal party in his blind rush for power and it was his government that failed. Chretien's government was very successful - if your mind can reach that far back, Chretien and Martin got rid of a huge deficit left by Brian Mulroney. I'm surprised you didn't like that government - it went pretty far to the Right. As to whether the Liberal party stole anything from anybody, the RCMP have NOT established that. The net is getting closer to the Qhebec wing of the party now that the RCMP seem to be going after Corriveau after Brault ratted him out - let's see what happens. I may have to eat my words but there is no proof at this point that the Liberals stole any of the Adscam money.
  77. Lection Fever from coast to coast in, Canada writes: Stan L 'Harper pledged with his minority to work with opposition and with the provincial premiers'

    He did.

    He fixed the Martin Panic-driven mess of one-off deals on equalization and worked hard with the Premiers to develop a new enhanced SINGLE formula that treated all provinces the same.

    He worked with opposition parties, as much as they were willing, to run one of the longest minorities in history. Who foresaw that Dion would order the liberal MPs to refuse to work and then use the unelected senate to do their dirty work?

    Have you noticed that every single example you mention is either wrong, or the liberals are much more guilty of what you allege? You really should consider switching to another party.
  78. Durward Saar from Canada writes: Harvey Mushman.
    Good try buddy but Haper has kept most of his Promises and the one he did not keep would have caused a national deficit, But you know that .
    The world economy is in tank but Canada is doing well, other than Liberal Ontario where provincial taxes are driving jobs away.
    Harvey I bet you think it was Mulroney that put us into debt, or that it grew under his command rather than it being a Trudeau debt that Mulroney had to get control of.
    Paying off 40,000,000,000 of our 400,000,000,000 debt is bad fiscal managment and blowing a surplus LOL.
    Surpluses should go to the debt period, surpluses are overtaxation otherwise.
    Liberals have no idea of the true history of Canada because they continue to make it up as they go along.
  79. Stan L from Canada writes: Harvey Mushman from cambridge, Canada writes: Stan L...so again...I ask...why would you support Dion? The man solely responsible for Harper being in power for so long?

    It's easy to support Dion, he is new, he has some plans that are well thought out rather than simply electioneering rhetoric......given my answer to you above, how can you support Harper given his seemingly pathological need to subvert democracy for his own power gain?...Did you even read my full response to you above?
  80. RG White from Shubie, Canada writes: Promises! Promises! Are you kidding me?? I remember a book of promises made up by Dion, Chretien and Martin, so abundant were they that they filled 'a Little Red Book'. Not one of them were kept, At least Harper has kept almost all of of his, and if Danny Williams were more than a big- fish- in- a -small- pond, he would realize his opinions on a federal stage and $1.40 will get him a Tim's. What arrogance! A cable guy and a car salesman. Oooooooooo. Rod Macdonald got NS its fair share without the whining.
  81. Nancy Wilson from N.Ontario, Canada writes: The 'hidden agenda,Soldiers in the street' fear mongering and scare tactics are growing tiring.
    It's been on-going for 3 elections now.
  82. Lection Fever from coast to coast in, Canada writes: Chris why did the LPC send 1.X million dollars in money they admit was stolen by the party - back the GoC?

    Explain that.
  83. Harvey Mushman from cambridge, Canada writes: Durward Saar...you need to go back and actually read my posts before shooting from the hip like that.
  84. Stan L from Canada writes: Lection Fever from coast to coast in, Canada writes: Stan L 'Harper pledged with his minority to work with opposition and with the provincial premiers'

    He did.

    One meeting with provinvial premiers, a fight with two of them and hollow support of two others as eveidenced by theis election backstabbing of another is hardly working with them.....
  85. Bobby Dy from Edmonton, Canada writes: There is no energy tax relief that can reduce the impact of rising energy prices on Canadians. Harper already stated that even the 1.5 cent/liter excise tax cannot be removed from gasoline at this point. So, how do we get around the burden of high energy costs. There is only one solution--increase our efficiency of energy use. Taxing energy coupled with income tax cuts will facilitate that change. The tax is trivial relative to the overall cost and price fluctuation in energy but the income tax cuts are substantive. Harper clearly cannot be trusted. Just listen to the way he spins this rather modest carbon tax while he doesn't cost his own plan in terms of its impact on Canadians. Reducing taxes on energy is a fools game. The industry will eat those cuts faster than consumers will see them. Moreover, they will have almost zero impact on the overall price of energy but a huge impact on government revenue. Harper sees Canadians as fools. Judging by how many repeat his rhetoric, he may be right.
  86. Chris Halford from Ottawa, Canada writes: Dion's right about Harper but that's going to be cold comfort if he doesn't generate some enthusiasm for the Liberal Party. I think Dion is right about a carbon tax too but I think he's foolish to push it right now with a big spike in gasoline prices and scary financial markets. He'd be further ahead with a platform that focusses on generating some growth - this is a good time to go after infrastructure; Harper has announced some stuff for Quebec and, I think, Toronto but there is a lot of room for more.
  87. Doug Edwards from rural, Canada writes: Harper can't be trusted. Dion can't be understood. Layton lives in La La land. What a choice.
  88. Stan L from Canada writes: Lection Fever from coast to coast in, Canada writes: ....He fixed the Martin Panic-driven mess of one-off deals on equalization and worked hard with the Premiers to develop a new enhanced SINGLE formula that treated all provinces the same.

    Really? Ontario and Quebec are just fine....funny I must have missed THAT news....and given their situation with seats in the HOC my comments about the subversion of democracy stands here too.
  89. rick from river city from Canada writes: Canadians realize that Liberals cannot govern unless they have a 15B slush fund to play with. Dannybucks loves slush funds. Dion should continue to campaign in Newfoundland. By the end of this election it might be the only province he wins.
  90. Lection Fever from coast to coast in, Canada writes: Stan L

    'It's easy to support Dion, he is new'

    He is not, he is from two failed, one deeply corrupt governments where his track record is much worse than just 'weak'

    'he has some plans that are well thought out'

    Not one. Massive tax grab and the ensuing decline in living standards, then blowing $billions on lame 1970's style failed social engineering projects.

    He's toast and deservedly so.
  91. Olivia Brownbeck from Canada writes: Almost forgot...Dion was promised that he would never implement a carbon tax and instead he favoured implementing a cap and trade plan. I think that would qualify as a broken promise.
  92. Roman Spears from St. Catharines, Canada writes: Of course Harper can't be trusted - he's a politician. He's kept very few of his promises in the past and that's why he isn't making many now. He thinks that people will vote for nothing rather than something, anything, that can be critically examined. 'Everybody put your bright blue sweater on, close your eyes and just think the economy is better.' That's got to be better than making decisions on the environment right? Or re-distributing wealth right?
    As for the world economy tanking, you mean the economy south of the border right? Their program of tax cuts isn't helping the average Joe much is it? All the more reason not to imitate it I would think. Most Europeans, with a standard of living as high or higher than us, don't rush to the American recovery model. Why is that? Canada still has a better standard of living than the USA - lets try to keep it that way.
  93. Stan L from Canada writes: