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Liberals left in dark as plane grounded

CAMPBELL CLARK AND JOSH WINGROVE

From Wednesday's Globe and Mail

Latest comment posted at 8:42 PM EST 16/09/08

Dion, team and press corps stranded overnight in Montreal after 'slight problem' with generator. ...Read the full article

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  1. Dakota _ from Canada writes: Haha! It's like watching an episode of Mister Bean!
  2. West Virginian Albino Mexican from Canada writes: Not The Real Jacques Parizeau from Montreal, Canada writes: Too bad the plane didn't crash.

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    Oh real nice sentiment there!

    I've never nor ever intend to vote LPC in my life but wouldn't wish that on anyone.

    Fool!
  3. Don Adams, the Conservative Centrist from Canada writes: Something akin to 'the wheels came off the bus?' :-)
  4. rick from river city from Canada writes: He can jump on the train with his buddy Mayfair.
  5. Mike T. Sharp from Victoria, Canada writes:

    It's only the perfect metaphor for the LPC campaign.
  6. p lailey from vancouver, Canada writes: I think that Dion has just had his Bob Stanfield moment where he tried to kick the football. Oh dear!

    Glad everyone is ok.
  7. John Hinkley from Canada writes: Yes - whether or not one intends to vote Lieberal and therefore for Mr. Dion, I would not have liked to have seen his plane crash.

    He has enough problems with his self-run, micro-managed campaign crashing around his ears.

    Unfortunately, I fear that the NDP and motor-mouth Layton may end being the official opposition.

    Talk about cruel and unusual punishment - having to listen to Layton more often for the next four years.

    I wonder if he and Olivia will let the homeless sleep in the extra bedrooms at Stornoway?
  8. Mike T. Sharp from Victoria, Canada writes:

    Meanwhile, in other news, Elizabeth May and the Greens chartered a glider to tour the country.

    It never got off the ground.
  9. Ed Long from Canada writes: The Liberals are buying credits to offset carbon emissions of this gas guzzling carbon belcher ..... I'm sure the atmosphere appreciates the book work.

    Kinda like the atmosphere will appreciate $15.38B in taxes of which approx. $1.5B make their way directly to green initiatives.

    Truly great material for Mercer, and maybe a movie.
  10. Scott MacDonald from Canada writes: Parizeau. You're a jerk.

    I'll never vote Liberal in my life anymore but I still would never wish death or dismemberment on him.

    Like the fact that his face will be a little red on this one.
  11. A S from Canada writes: 'But the Liberals are buying credits to offset carbon emissions.'

    pfew! good thing they're buying those offset credits......or is this a way for the Liberal elite to make themselves feel good about themselves...
  12. Ben Dingover from Canada writes: I'm starting to feel sorry for the guy.
  13. Mike L. from Canada writes: I have no intention of voting Liberal, but by now, I'm really starting to feel sorry for Mr. Dion.

    Decent guy, wrong job.
  14. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: ...The Liberal plane had once been owned by a Saudi Arabian oil company. Most recently with Air Inuit it was used for cargo flights and evacuation flights,

    So how will Dion be evacuated from a distressed evacuation aircraft???
  15. Political Junkie from Canada writes: Carbon offsets; paying someone to be chaste while you are screwing around.
  16. Derek Holtom from swan river (only cowards attack others using fake names), Canada writes: this is like a sitcom. glad all are OK, but seriously, not great news for Dion
  17. rick from river city from Canada writes: word is the plane ran out of carbon credits.
  18. M Jones from Canada writes: Apparently Lisa LaFlamme came up with the name 'Profess-air' I always did like Lisa - she is good-looking AND (very) intelligent!! Plus funny? Wow, what a combo!!!
  19. Trudeau's Apricot poodle from Canada writes: Instead of buying carbon credits, wouldn't the environment be helped by reduced emissions? The carbon credit scam is another tax on the gullible by the greedy.
  20. CM Chen from Toronto, Canada writes: Profess-air going up in La Flamme.
  21. Jim Bradley from Ottawa, Canada writes: Like the LPC campaign generally, this plane is running on 30 year old thinking, worn out parts and hocus pocus financial shell games. Honestly, if a party with this amount of election warning can't snag a decent flight it speaks to a complete lack of organizational planning. Oh, I forgot! Dion is micro managing the whole thing! Now I understand!
  22. Pro Canadian from Windsor, Canada writes: Can Someone tell me what a carbon offset credit is? can you touch it or eat it or smell it? Is a notional item that really doesn't exist but is a great place to sink tax dollars into?
  23. M Jones from Canada writes: CM Chen from Toronto, Canada writes: Profess-air going up in La Flamme.
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    Oh, very good ;)) LOL. Please let Lisa off first!!
  24. Out West from Canada writes: Good thing it didn't crash. We need Dion as leader of the liberals to ensure they don't win.
  25. R. M. from Regina, Canada writes: If it is possible for a party to hang someone out to dry they are sure doing it. The Liberals have a real chance here to improve their position and I can't believe a party with their history and their connections has been reduced to a Mr. Bean campaign. It boggles the mind.
  26. A B from Saskatoon, Canada writes: If this happened to Tory plane, they would probably insinuate that the generator was made under Liberal gov't or maybe even worse ...

    How nicely avoided fact that PM broke his own promise of fixed election dates to surprise opposition, by blaming liberals for picking up old plane

    I really like un-baised journalism.
  27. D. MacKay from Atlantic, Canada writes:

    Good Gawd Dion , just quit .... it's not too late and it's going to happen anyway.

    You can always pick grapes.

    A good green collar job.
  28. M Jones from Canada writes: A B from Saskatoon, Canada writes: If this happened to Tory plane, they would probably insinuate that the generator was made under Liberal gov't or maybe even worse ...
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    It probably was! Lighten up!
  29. J R from Canada writes: this incident has led to a lot of unintended hilarity on this thread..... thanks for making me laugh!!!
  30. JT From TO from Toronto, Canada writes: At least the grounded plane can be fixed- Dion's grounded campaign is beyond repair.
  31. J R from Canada writes: 'A B from Saskatoon, Canada writes: If this happened to Tory plane, they would probably insinuate that the generator was made under Liberal gov't or maybe even worse ... How nicely avoided fact that PM broke his own promise of fixed election dates to surprise opposition, by blaming liberals for picking up old plane'
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    the liberals were begging for an election, dion himself said more than once he would trigger it when the time was right. well once again, his trigger finger wasnt too quick, and he got caught out on an election that almost everyone (but the liberals) expected.

    the sad part about this election for the libs is that they're doing it all to themselves.
  32. Jim Bradley from Ottawa, Canada writes: Pro Canadian - a carbon offset credit is similar to what some religions have by way of paying money to get rid of guilt. You surrender cash to some org or another that promises to plant enough trees to make up for your polluting 'sins'. My grandfather paid a lot of money for 75 masses for the reposal of his soul. The estate forked over and as far as we know it worked but then, how would we know if it didn't? Same diff on carbon trading. Send money off, presume good is done. Oh. that's the Green Shift er SHAFT.

    Never let a Lieberal government near your wallet if you can help it. Tax and spend is their motto!
  33. D. MacKay from Atlantic, Canada writes:

    Not The Real Jacques Parizeau from Montreal, Canada :

    Stupid comments ... wishing death on indirect participants?

    Can't defend it.

    Move on to Day 11.

    It happens.
  34. rick from river city from Canada writes: A B from Saskatoon, Canada writes:
    How nicely avoided fact that PM broke his own promise of fixed election dates to surprise opposition, by blaming liberals for picking up old plane

    If the election was in October 09 the Liberals would be reduced to a scooter. Its not Harpers fault they are broke (like the plane)
  35. Pro Canadian from Windsor, Canada writes: To 'Not the Real Jacques Parizeau' -- I have a friend who owns a business in Southwestern Ontario who had a fellow from Germany visit him to see about a business venture using his company. When asked by my friend why they were looking to relocate to Canada, the German told him ' Because you are a third world country populated by white people'. That statement scares the crap out of me!! But it also makes you think what others DO really think of us.
  36. snaglepussed in ottawa from Canada writes: What a coincidence that it was the first trip Bob Rae took with Dion. Methinks Bob is a jinx or his voodoo doll received the wrong message. LOL

    Seriously, if you were a reporter on that trip, would you dare embark that plane again?
  37. M Jones from Canada writes: J R from Canada writes: 'A B from Saskatoon, Canada writes: If this happened to Tory plane, they would probably insinuate that the generator was made under Liberal gov't or maybe even worse ... How nicely avoided fact that PM broke his own promise of fixed election dates to surprise opposition, by blaming liberals for picking up old plane'
    _____

    the liberals were begging for an election, dion himself said more than once he would trigger it when the time was right. well once again, his trigger finger wasnt too quick, and he got caught out on an election that almost everyone (but the liberals) expected.

    the sad part about this election for the libs is that they're doing it all to themselves.
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    Amen to that, JR, bang on. Not really that sad, though! ;))
  38. Popcorn And Beer from Courtenay, Canada writes: The farce of 'Carbon Credits' finally comes to light! Will the GTA help place Stephane Mitty as the opposition leader(surely even they can't see him as Prime Ministerial). This takes me back to the days of the War in the Woods, here on Vancouver Island, when all those hell bent on saving old growth forests left tons of garbage behind after they left. If you're going to talk the talk Dion.......
  39. Bill W from Canada writes: In the hundreds of articles about this plane, almost all reporters refer to the plane as 'Air Inuit' as opposed to what it really should be called; a Boeing 737. Could reporters be referring to it this way because 'Air Inuit' sounds a lot worse/cheap/2nd class than saying 'Boeing 737'? Isn't that a little racist on the part of reporters?
  40. Private Person from Toronto, Canada writes: Comments like those above just make me want to vote Liberal. Anti-intellectual, vapid crap does not make a 'conversation'.

    Many ridicule carbon credits but why? Do you, for example, agree with Sarah Palin's belief that Global Warming isn't man-made? Or do you agree that GW's real, but it's too late so why bother? Or do you contend that it's real, you care about it, but credits are a fraud? If that's the case, then what, exactly, would you have done if you were running the Liberal campaign? The Conservative campaign?

    Do you even know what carbon credits are? Do you care?

    The CPC is not buying carbon credits. The Liberals are. Note that this isn't tax money, it's campaign money. Are you all incapable of even giving grudging credit to them for this?
  41. M Jones from Canada writes: J R from Canada writes: this incident has led to a lot of unintended hilarity on this thread..... thanks for making me laugh!!!
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    It's the best medicine! And it was Intended - at least on my part!! Enjoy!
  42. Andrew Sniderman from Canada writes: Yay, another plane story. Jane Taber, we still await decent journalism...
  43. Alpha Sigma from Canada writes: Popcorn And Beer from Courtenay, Canada writes: The farce of 'Carbon Credits' finally comes to light! Will the GTA help place Stephane Mitty as the opposition leader(surely even they can't see him as Prime Ministerial). This takes me back to the days of the War in the Woods, here on Vancouver Island, when all those hell bent on saving old growth forests left tons of garbage behind after they left. If you're going to talk the talk Dion.......

    But the carbon credits they purchased magically makes the pollution caused by the plane less damaging.....
  44. Jim McBob from Ottawa, Canada writes: Private person.

    So if I pee in your swimming pool and then write you a cheque does that make me virtuous? No.
    If Dion belches pollution and then writes a cheque does that make him fit to be PM ? No.
  45. Richard G from Canada writes: Every time Al Gore gives a speech about global warming, anywhere on the planet, Rush Limbaugh launches a diatribe about how he used a car, or a truck, or an airplane. It's good to see the Globe & Mail and the NDP are striving for the same level of intellectual honesty.
  46. Jim McBob from Ottawa, Canada writes: Clearly Taber likes free booze and airplane stories. I'm starting to warm up to her.
  47. M Jones from Canada writes: To Not the Real Jacques: I think it's time you moved out of the City. While I would like to see the Libs relegated to 2 seats, multi-culturalism is here to stay. The country was built with immigrants from a variety of countries (the Chinese practically built the CPR). This country would be nothing without immigrants. I was born here, but am only a first gen Canadian. My family came from war torn Germany - ask them where they would prefer to live. I wish we could all get along, too, but we must be realistic. This country is a far better place to live that MOST places in the world, and that speaks volumes. Kind of fitting that our election is the day after Thanksgiving. I hope you can forgive those that have hurt you.
  48. harry carnie from Northern, B.C., Canada writes: It is O.K, ....if Dion is elected he will spend another
    billion on gun control.

    Not that it has anything to do with his plane breaking down, or preventing gun crime.. but it will make the Liberals feel good about them selves.
  49. diane marie from calgary, Canada writes: Now, if p lailey were a shill for the other side, she would ask why the CPC is allowing such aircraft to continue to fly. This is a ridiculous story. All aircraft have such failures, which is why (unlike automobiles) generators and the like are supplied with redundant back-ups. It does serve as a lovely opportunity for political trolls and shills. Sorry I interrupted. Carry on. But, why is the carbon footprint of the CPC aircraft so large? No carbon credits/offsets - the only campaign aircraft that can so 'boast'.
  50. rick from river city from Canada writes: Aw, Dion doesnt really need a plane to commute between his two strongholds - Retronto and Montreal.
  51. Not The Real Jacques Parizeau from Montreal, Canada writes: M Jones from Canada writes: Dear Mr. Jones. I have nothing against European immigrants. I only have a problem with those who have come here in the last twenty years and spend all their time trying to extract accomodations from the host society instead of assimilating like you did. I also have a big problem with those who have come here under the family reunification program and who cost this country billion of dollar annnually without contributing anything. Not to mentionned those who are living on wellfare and impose tremendous costs upon the canadian society by being involved in criminality.

    Unfortunately, the cops never retreived the guy who almost destroyed my life and that of my family by extension. Without the liberals and multiculturalism, none of that would have hapened.
  52. His Ice Anvil from Toronto, Canada writes:

    Dear Liberals, won't you come out to play?
    Dear Liberals, greet the brand new day
    The Sun is up, the sky is blue
    The polls are out and you're so screwed
    Dear Liberals, won't you come out to play?

    Dear Liberals, open up your eyes
    Dear Liberals, we know about your lies
    The wind is low, Dion will sing
    'Dat he is part of everyting'
    Dear Liberals, won't you open up your eyes?

    Look around round
    Look around round round
    Look around

    Dear Liberals, let me see you smile
    Dear Liberals, like a little child
    The Left will be your only fan
    To lend support to 'da Green Shaft Plan'
    Dear Liberals, won't you let me see you smile?

    Dear Liberals, won't you come out to play?
    Dear Liberals, greet the brand new day
    The Sun is up, the sky is blue
    The polls are out and you're so screwed
    Dear Liberals, won't you come out to play?
  53. His Ice Anvil from Toronto, Canada writes:

    Imagine there's no Liberals
    It's easy if you try
    No socialists in Parliament
    Above us only sky
    Imagine all the people
    Living for today...

    Imagine there's no Liberals
    It isn't hard to do
    No one to steal your money
    And raise your taxes too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace...

    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope some day you'll join us
    And the world is free of Liberal scum

    Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can
    'Cause it would soon be happening
    Under 'da Green Shaft Plan'
    Imagine all the people
    Living in the street...

    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope some day you'll join us
    And the world is free of Liberal scum
  54. His Ice Anvil from Toronto, Canada writes:

    I'm a loser
    I'm a loser
    And I'm not what I appear to be

    Of all da votes I have won or have lost
    Der is one plan that I should just have tossed
    It was a plan in a million, my friend
    I should have known I'd feel 'green' in da end

    I'm a loser
    And I lost someting dat’s dear to me
    I'm a loser
    And I'm not what I appear to be

    Although I look and I talk like a clown
    Beneath dis mask I am wearing a frown
    My tears are falling like rain from da sky
    Is it for 'Jean' or myself dat I cry

    I'm a loser
    And I lost someting dat's dear to me
    I'm a loser
    And I'm not what I appear to be

    What have I done to deserve such a fate
    I realize I leaned left far too late
    And so it's true, pride comes before a fall
    I'm telling you so dat you won't lose all

    I'm a loser
    And I lost someting dat's dear to me
    I'm a loser
    And I'm not what I appear to be
  55. His Ice Anvil from Toronto, Canada writes:

    This happened once before,
    When I came to your door,
    No reply.
    They said that you vote 'Blue',
    But I saw you peep trou your window,
    I saw da light, I saw da light,
    I know dat you saw me,
    'cause I looked up to see your face.

    I tried to telephone,
    They said dat you're not home,
    Dat's a lie,
    'cause I know where you've been,
    I saw you walk in your door,
    I nearly died, I nearly died,
    'cause you walked hand in hand
    Wit another 'Stephen' in my place.

    If I were you I'd realize dat I
    Would screw you less den any Liberal guy,
    And I'd forgive da lies dat I
    Told before when you gave me no reply.

    I've tried to telephone,
    They said dat you're not home,
    Dat's a lie,
    'cause I know where you've been,
    I saw you walk in your door,
    I nearly died, I nearly died,
    'cause you walked hand in hand
    Wit another 'Stephen' in my place.

    No reply.
    No reply.
  56. His Ice Anvil from Toronto, Canada writes:

    Elp, I need somebody
    Elp, not just anybody
    Elp, you know I need someone, elp

    When I was younger back in 'universitay'
    I never needed anybody's elp in any way
    But now dese days are gone I'm not so self assured
    Now I find I've changed my mind and opened up da doors

    Elp me if you can, I'm feeling down
    And I do appreciate you being 'round
    Elp me get my Green Plan off da ground
    Won't you please, please Elp me?

    And now my life has changed in oh so many ways
    Liberal voter support just vanished in da haze
    But every now and den I feel so insecure
    I know dat I would screw you less dan Liberal guys before

    Elp me if you can, I'm feeling down
    And I do appreciate you being 'round
    Elp me, get my Green Plan off da ground
    Won't you please, please elp me

    When I was younger back in 'universitay'
    I never needed anybody's elp in any way
    But now dese days are gone I'm not so self assured
    Now I find I've changed my mind and opened up da doors

    Elp me if you can, I'm feeling down
    And I do appreciate you being round
    Elp me, get my Green Plan off da ground
    Won't you please, please elp me, elp me, elp me, ew
  57. His Ice Anvil from Toronto, Canada writes: I am Green as you are Green just vote for Green and we'll be Green together See how they run like Liberals from a judge, see how they fly I'm crying Eating all the Cornflakes, waiting for Stephane to cum Jenny Craig tee-shirt, stupid bloody Tuesday Bob, you've been a naughty boy, you let your face grow long You make the eggs then (woo), I'll eat the eggs then (woo), I am a walrus Coo coo, kachoo Mister City Liberals sitting Pretty little Liberals in a row See how they lie like Lucy in the Sky, see how they run I'm crying I'm cry, I'm crying, I'm cry-ing Yellow matter custard, dripping from my left glass eye I look-a-like-a fishwife, pornographic priestess Never been a naughty girl and let my knickers down You make the eggs then (woo), I'll eat the eggs then (woo), I am a walrus Coo coo, kachoo Sitting in an English garden waiting for the Sun If the Sun don't come, I'll get some press by whining to the Globe and Mail You make the eggs then (woo), I'll eat the eggs then (woo), I am a walrus Coo coo kachoo ka coo coo kachoo Expert texpert choking smokers Don't you think that Liberals laugh at you? (ho ho ho, he he he, ha ha ha) See how they lie like pigs in a sty, see how they lie I'm crying Semolina Pilchard, climbing up the CN Tower Elementary penguin singing Hare Krishna Man, you should have seen Bob Rae was standing next to 'Moe' You make the eggs then (woo), I'll eat the eggs then (woo), I am a walrus Coo coo kachoo ka coo coo kachoo Jabba jabba jabba, jabba, jabba, jabba, jabba, jabba, jabba jabba. Jabba jabba Ooh ooh ha ha baby eat the eggs then (Music fades as voices can be heard whispering: 'settle down mother, she's left you'… May is heard saying 'I lost 80 lbs on Jenny Craig? Yeah right!')
  58. His Ice Anvil from Toronto, Canada writes:

    Do you know ow ard it is to write dese songs? I know, I know Michael - we didn't get it done.
  59. bill johnson from Quebec, Canada writes: Private person....good questions. I have one too. Is anyone verifying that the Liberals are, in fact, paying for carbon offsets, or are we relying on good faith? The party is nearly bankrupt and can ill afford to spend precious $$ on C credits. Plus, they have a long history of lying to Canadians. When I see a receipt, I will believe it, not before.

    I don't believe the generator story. I think VISA declined the fuel purchase owing to unpaid bills.
  60. HARPER 178 SEATS, NDP 58, LIBS 42 BLOC 28 GREEN 2 from Canada writes: YES TO HAVE A COMPANY MAKE MONEY OR GO BROKE. ONE OF THIS EXAPLE IS BAD MANAGERS. SO HERE WE HAVE A PLANE THAT WAS A WEEK LATE NOT WITH THE LIBERAL LEADER FLYING IN THIS PLANE IT COST THIS PLANE MORE CASH TO RUN BUT ITS DOING OK BECAUSE IT NEVER RUNS SO THE STORY IS NOT REALLY ABOUT THE PLANE OR IT NOT RUNNING. IT IS DION READY TO RUN A COMPANY THE SIZE OF BOHARM SASK AND ITS A SMALL TOWN IS SAKACHEWAN OF ABOUT 20 PEOPLE WHEN I LEFT. I WOULD SAY NO SO WHAT ON GODS GREEN EARH DO LIBERAL SUPPORTERS THINK THIS GUY IS READY TO RUN THIS GREAT NATION. WE NEED NEW IDEAS I HAVE NOT SEENANY FROM ANY OF THE PARTIES NOT LIB NDP,GREENS NOBODY SO I HAVE TO GO THE SECOND ROUGHT WHO WILL DO THE WORST HARM AND THAT IS WHERE HARPER COME IN HE HAS HAD THE HEL, 2 YEARS AND WE ARS TILL ABOVE WATER EVEN WHILE THE REST OF THE WORLD IN IN A MELTDOWN SO FAR IT MAY CATCH UP BECAUS ETHE USA IN GOING TO TAKE A FEW YEARS TO GET BACK ON TRACK BUT MR HARPER HAS DONE WHAT HE DID WITH THE SURPLUS BEFORE THE NASTYS HAPPEN AND THAT IS WHATS KEEPINGUS GOING NOW.THE FED WILL DROP INTEREST RATES AND THE HOUSING WILL BE UP A BIT MORE OIL COME DOWN THAT HELPS MANUFACTURING AND WITH OIL DOWN THE DOLLAR GOES DOWN AND THAT HELPS THEM. MR DION AND HIS SIDE KICK MISS MAY SAYS TAX THEM ALL SHE SAYS ONTHERE GREEN SHAFT 12 CENTS A LT FOR GAS ALONE AND 1-2 % GST JUMP DO WE NEED MORE TAX AND WITH DION AND HIS PROSPERATY SHIFT WILL KILL THE ALBERTA ENGINE NO ENGINE COUNTRYS FALL IN WITH THE USA AND KISS ALL YOUR RETIRMENTS GOOD BUY WE WILL BE WORKING TIL 75 JUST TO GET A CENT BACK .INTEREST RATES WILL CLIMS AS WITH THIS BIG TAX GRAB WILL BE PASSD ONTO THE CONSUMERS AND THEY WILL BE OUT 15 BILLION SO ELECT HARPER WE STAY ABOVE THE CRASH LAYTON WHO CARES.MISS DION WELL THEY WILL BE HOLDING IONTO THE BIG ENVELOPES STASHED WITH CASH
  61. Bill Hopkins from London, Canada writes: M Jones from Canada writes: To Not the Real Jacques: I think it's time you moved out of the City. While I would like to see the Libs relegated to 2 seats, multi-culturalism is here to stay. The country was built with immigrants from a variety of countries (the Chinese practically built the CPR). This country would be nothing without immigrants. I was born here, but am only a first gen Canadian. My family came from war torn Germany - ask them where they would prefer to live. I wish we could all get along, too, but we must be realistic. This country is a far better place to live that MOST places in the world, and that speaks volumes. Kind of fitting that our election is the day after Thanksgiving. I hope you can forgive those that have hurt you.
    ..........................
    The problem is not immigration. The problem is official, government-sanctioned multiculturalism. Multiculturalism means that we grant collective rights and special privileges to particular groups on the basis of race or religion or ethnicity. this is in direct opposition to and serves to undermine our traditional civil society which is based on individualism and universalism. In other words, official multiculturalism is slowly destroying the principles that have been the underlying strength of our society.
  62. Bill McDonald from Canada writes: As a Conservative supporter, let me state that I am sick of the immature comments from both sides....Calling someone a LIEberal is no more going to get someone to vote Conservative than will calling someone a CONservative make someone vote Liberal. Grow up you fools.....

    That said, I am now going to take a crap in your pool. But don't worry...I'll go out later in the week and buy some offsetting scrub brushes that I otherwise wasn't planning to buy. It'll all be good....
  63. David Beed from Cole Harbour, Canada writes: Well let's see, SeaKing helicopters 47 years and counting C130E,s 43 years and counting,Snowbird air team jets 42 years and counting,Buffalo transports 41 years and counting. Gawd the Liberal 737 is a spring chicken compared to what the forces have to put up with. The poor reporters are probably begging their editors to be reassigned. Montreal is not a bad place to be stranded in though. Have a few drinks boys and girls and raise one for the Airforce.
  64. Art Vandelai from Burlington, Canada writes: Ice Anvil...we get it...you write clever parodies, which are very reminicent of most CPC campaign tactics - repeat the same message over and over again, whether relevant to the discussion or not.

    I remember doing the same things in Grade 9.
  65. J R from Canada writes: 'bill johnson from Quebec, Canada writes: Private person....good questions. I have one too. Is anyone verifying that the Liberals are, in fact, paying for carbon offsets, or are we relying on good faith?'
    _____

    cant answer the question bill, but i notified my MP (conservative) just to make sure someone follows up on whether or not the carbon credits are actually PAID FOR in the end. must keep on top of these things, as you know.
  66. bill johnson from Quebec, Canada writes: Bob Rae looks either really tired or really old in that photo. Good on him though to try to salvage Dion's brutal campaign.

    I almost expect to hear that the plane lost navigational controls and headed 1000 miles out over the ocean before realizing they weren't in Toronto.
  67. J R from Canada writes: 'Private Person from Toronto, Canada writes: Comments like those above just make me want to vote Liberal. Anti-intellectual, vapid crap does not make a 'conversation'.'
    _____

    it works both ways. i was a liberal supporter till late 2005. then i saw what a band of thieves they were, that, and the 'harper has a hidden agenda' started to wear very thin with me. not to mention the fact that i find a large number of liberal supporters diss those who dont think the way they think.

    will be a long long time before i can bring myself to vote liberal again.
  68. Winston Smith from Canada writes: Maybe CTV national reporter Lisa Laflamme should resign and just campaign for Harper's Tories if she can't even pretend to be unbiased in her reporting.
  69. Kevin Redmond from Waterloo, Canada writes: John Hinkley from Canada writes:
    .....
    .....
    Unfortunately, I fear that the NDP and motor-mouth Layton may end being the official opposition.

    Talk about cruel and unusual punishment - having to listen to Layton more often for the next four years.

    I wonder if he and Olivia will let the homeless sleep in the extra bedrooms at Stornoway?

    _______________

    Jack Layton is a socialist, and they only believe in helping the poor if somebody else pays for it. Having homeless people live in Stornoway would be too much of an inconvenience.
  70. Maria Peluso from Montreal, Canada writes: I'm surprised that no one has picked up the fact the unlike the Conservatives, who have perhaps may have a better plane, the Liberals and the NDP use'CarbonDollars' to a local community's environmental investment. The Green's of course do not believe in planes. From this we can conclude that the Party which is had done the least with our environment, and in terms of pollution dollars during this campaign, is none other than Stephen Harper's Conservative. Conservative???? They believe in granting further foreign investment in Canadian Uranium. Yikes! Let's stop bashing Stephen Dion or Jack Layton pleassssse.
  71. John Smith from SUPPORT ONT BILL 93, Canada writes: The plane ran out of carbon tax credits...ROFLOL...What a circus...

    'Folks this is the Captain speaking. I don't want to alarm you but we're 30,000 feet above the earth in a 30 year old tin can and we have a problem. But don't worry, it's not an emergency'...LOL...

    Yup, this sound like the campaign of a guy I want to be the next PM....ROFLOL...What a circus act...lol
  72. M Jones from Canada writes: To Bill Hopkins from London: You wrote:
    The problem is not immigration. The problem is official, government-sanctioned multiculturalism. Multiculturalism means that we grant collective rights and special privileges to particular groups on the basis of race or religion or ethnicity. this is in direct opposition to and serves to undermine our traditional civil society which is based on individualism and universalism. In other words, official multiculturalism is slowly destroying the principles that have been the underlying strength of our society.
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    Your statement runs counter to the premise of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. I think the strength of our society lies in it's diversity and is what makes us (Canada) better than, say, the US 'melting pot' idea. Are you including our First Nations people in your premise?
  73. Sean Williams from Canada writes: You know where those carbon credits go? To payouts to governments like China and Russia so that they can 'improve their environmental standards'. How much of those dollars does anyone think actually go where they're supposed to go? With the corruption in those countries, the cash is probably ending up in someone's Swiss bank account. Meanwhile, Dion's plane is belching out smoke like an old lady at a bingo hall.
  74. rick from river city from Canada writes: Art Vandelai from Burlington, Canada writes: Ice Anvil...we get it...you write clever parodies, which are very reminicent of most CPC campaign tactics - repeat the same message over and over again, whether relevant to the discussion or not. I remember doing the same things in Grade 9.

    ... I guess the dont teach humor until Grade 10. If you want to hear the same message over and over again you will love the Liberals one and only policy.
  75. Beyazet Ilderim from Scarborough?, Canada writes: 'But the Liberals are buying credits to offset carbon emissions.'
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    From whom? Brother Al Gore or uncle Maurice Strong?
  76. David Gibson from Hamilton, Canada writes: Buying credits? Not me, and I'm green. If they could afford a clean plane, then good, get it and fly it. If not, then bad, but we can't all afford a Prius or a solar-powered house.
  77. rick from river city from Canada writes: His Ice Anvil from Toronto, Canada writes: Do you know ow ard it is to write dese songs? I know, I know Michael - we didn't get it done.

    OK .. next request is Michael to the tune of Michele My Bell...
  78. Beyazet Ilderim from Scarborough?, Canada writes: Very well pointed comment, Not The Real Jacques Parizeau from Montreal, Canada and all too true!
  79. raul castillo from Winnipeg, Canada writes: LIBERAL PARTY PLANE MADE AN EMERGENCY LANDING IN MONTREAL AND DION IS VERY LUCKY BECAUSE IT HAPPENED IN MONTREAL AND WAS ABLE TO ASK FOR HELP 'IN FRENCH'.
  80. David Gibson from Hamilton, Canada writes: This incident will be seen as symbolic by most, and will be seen as significant enough to affect the voting intentions of 26% of voters.
  81. Ricky for a Centrist Canada from Canada writes:
    Yeah.

    Cuz it's all about the plane you fly.

    Whatever.
  82. John Smith from SUPPORT ONT BILL 93, Canada writes: We should all be thankful the only crashin' and burnin' Dion and the LPT will be doing is on election night.
  83. p lailey from Canada writes: Winston Smith from Canada writes: 'Maybe CTV national reporter Lisa Laflamme should resign and just campaign for Harper's Tories if she can't even pretend to be unbiased in her reporting.'

    I'm guessing the election isn't going your way.
  84. Ed Long from Canada writes: Political Junkie 'Carbon offsets; paying someone to be chaste while you are screwing around.'

    Hilarious.
  85. p lailey from Canada writes: 'bill johnson from Quebec, Canada writes: Private person....good questions. I have one too. Is anyone verifying that the Liberals are, in fact, paying for carbon offsets, or are we relying on good faith?'

    I'd like to know exacly what companies are paid, are there any Liberal connections in the company and are the expenses audited by an outside accounting firm.
  86. John Smith from SUPPORT ONT BILL 93, Canada writes: Ricky for a Centrist Canada from Canada writes:
    Yeah.

    Cuz it's all about the plane you fly.

    Whatever.

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    Think about it this way.

    No political confidence = no contributions,
    No contributions=poor election logistics,
    poor election logistics=30 year old planes

    Hence, the LPT election campaign can't get off the ground
  87. M Jones from Canada writes: To Ricky: Of course it is! Dion is pushing the CT, but flying a cluncker? Come on. Walk the walk, talk the talk. So far he isn't. And even if he suddenly did, I would never vote Lib again. And as far as the party paying Carbon Credits? Not likely - the Libs are so fractured and broke, where is the money coming from? Left overs from the ad scandal? The Libs have lost all credibility with me and I wouldn't trust any of them with a penny of my tax dollars -ever. period.
  88. Jo Blo from as far from Toronto as possible, Canada writes: 'Mr. Dion's communications director, Mark Dunn, said the plane has two generators, and one lost some power during the flight. '

    No, the 737 has 3 generators.One on each engine, and one driven by the Auxiliary Power Unit in the tail, that can be started in flight. A generator doesn't lose 'some' power: it quits. It wasn't an emergency.

    Why didn't they start the APU and put its generator on line? Maybe it was broken already.
  89. M Jones from Canada writes: p lailey from Canada writes: Winston Smith from Canada writes: 'Maybe CTV national reporter Lisa Laflamme should resign and just campaign for Harper's Tories if she can't even pretend to be unbiased in her reporting.'

    I'm guessing the election isn't going your way.
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    roflmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  90. spicydoc of the spring from Canada writes:

    This kind of foul-up does more to hurt Dion's image than any of the idiot CPC attack ads.

    Reminds me of Joe Clark losing his luggage.

    Unbelievable and embarrassing.

    Dion wants to implement a massive overhaul of the revenue system' affecting tens of billions of dollars and affecting every person in the country, yet he doesn't even have the wherewithal to secure a decent plane.

    Egad.
  91. p lailey from Canada writes: diane marie from calgary, Canada writes: 'Now, if p lailey were a shill for the other side, she would ask why the CPC is allowing such aircraft to continue to fly'

    Speaking of shills, right on cue we have the resident Liberal apologist.
  92. John Smith from SUPPORT ONT BILL 93, Canada writes: Does anyone remember the famous report from Appollo 13?

    'ah, Toronto we have a problem'...lol....

    I guess the LPT policies really won't fly
    We now can say the LPT campaign has come down to earth
    I wonder if Dion was asking for his 'golden parachute'

    C'mon folks, there's got to be hundreds of joke here.
  93. spicydoc of the spring from Canada writes:

    I'm going to start a rumor and see if it goes viral.

    If Harper wins a majority, Ignatieff will cross over and become Foreign Affairs minister, replacing Emerson.

    Naturally I don't believe it; just want to see what happens if I post it a few times.
  94. Robert Dryburgh from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada writes: Clapped out old clunker of an aircraft seems to suit the Liberals. I hope it is airworthy and safe. Despite my dislike for the Liberals, I wish them safety in their travel aboard this aircraft.
  95. John Smith from SUPPORT ONT BILL 93, Canada writes: spicydoc of the spring from Canada...I heard Iggy and Harper are already in talks about him crossing the floor and Ruby Dhalla is also interested in joining the CPC caucus.
  96. white wolf from Canada writes: carbon offsets are just a pile of crap and solve nothing for this planet

    the B737 is one great plane and has an excellent safety record, ask anyone

    generators will fail ..big deal

    all planes burn too much fule because they have to to stay up there,

    when they stop flying all the war planes then ill know they are serious about pollution
  97. M Jones from Canada writes: To White Wolf: If we aren't flying war planes overseas, we will be flying them over Canada - it's called training - something our Troops need to do to protect the sheep. Be thankful they are up there. BAAAAAA.
  98. spicydoc of the spring from Canada writes:

    John Smith--

    Ruby Dhalla too??

    Wasn't she part of the Kennedy-Dion claque??

    Ignatieff would make a great foreign affairs minister. Rather see him as PM though....
  99. Jeff Smyth from Canada writes: To the tune of Steve Miller's Fly like an Eagle

    I want to fly like a puffin
    To the sea
    Fly like a puffin
    Let your votes carry me
    I want to fly like a puffin
    Till Im free
    Oh, lord, through the election

    Poor Mr. Dion he can't get a break. Glad no one was hurt, he's still not getting my vote.
  100. John Melnick from High River AB, Canada writes: 'Private Person from Toronto, Canada writes: Many ridicule carbon credits but why? .................... The CPC is not buying carbon credits. The Liberals are. Note that this isn't tax money, it's campaign money. Are you all incapable of even giving grudging credit to them for this?' Answer: no grudging credit. Paying money to some foreign clearing house so the Liberals can pollute their home country and spin it as setting an example doesn't cut it for me. My non-intellectual Neanderthal brain cannot square that kind of duplicity. I'm all for setting an example which in this case should be do whatever it takes to rent a clean aircraft. Period.
  101. RJ McCrae from Canada writes: At least this time the landing was safe and uneventful. However on Oct 14th his landing will not be so gentle. The poor guy will feel like a plump chicken who has landed in the middle of ravenous wolves. Thus is the fate of a failed Liberal leader.