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JANE TABER

Globe and Mail Update

Latest comment posted at 10:01 PM EST 10/10/08

Former Liberal Prime Minister comes out of political retirement to back Stéphane Dion, condemn Stephen Harper ...Read the full article

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  1. Vincent D from Canada writes: Hey i forgot.... what happened to the $1.3 million dollars that the Conservatives tried to steal from Canadian tax payers in the In and Out scandal?

    To me, over spending your election limits by $1.3 million in a extremely tight race is worse then a handful of people embezeling money. They might have stole some cash, but the Conservatives tried to, and may have, stolen an election. Cash is cash, but you can't put a dollar figure on the Conservatives stealing and election and bypassing the will of the people...
  2. spicydoc of the spring from Canada writes:

    The LPC just jumped the shark....
  3. Iam Becoming More Conservative:-((( from Ordinary, Canada writes: “I don't know the details, I know that, um, there were discussions, um, but this is not for publication?” Mr. Harper replies on the tape.
  4. D. MacKay from Atlantic, Canada writes:
    R Miller from Halifax:

    Being a Nova Scotian , what is your take on the Steve Murphy interview? Murphy tends to do this to anyone.

    Many condemn Murphy's actions but this is for all the marbles and rough play has been the norm for all parties.

    Just curious as you seem to call it as you see it.

    If you are not inclined ... no worries but you tend to leave the BS out.
  5. BD from Calgary from Canada writes: A fine politician standing up for another fine politician.
    Jean, you are an inspiration to all of us who believe in what is the very best that Canada stands for.
    Harper is in this for his own sake, and let nothing stand in his way.
    Dion believes in everything good that Canada can be.
    Thank you Mr Prime Minister.
  6. Shawn Bull from Canada writes: With Chretien in the room I only hope that people checked to make sure their wallets were not pick-pocketed from them.
  7. BD from Calgary from Canada writes: Kudos Jean
    You have brought out the Harper apologists out in full force, complete with their foul smelling bile.
    They are everything the current (ugh, I hate to say it) Prime Minister stands for.
  8. James M from Canada writes: I don't recall Chretien ever being charged with stealing anything? Is there some proof to your libel?
  9. James M from Canada writes: I'll bet there won't be one charge Liberal MP. Besides, the RCMP are busy at the Tories Campaign HQ
  10. bill johnson from Quebec, Canada writes: I have never voted NDP, even in my most drunken state. However, when Broadbent indicated he would not vote with his party in favour of keeping Martin's govt in power because a Conservative member (Chuck?) was ill, it highlighted the man's utter sense of class. I bet Jack threatened him, but you can't harm a man with integrity. After he announced he would cancel the absence of the sick conservative MP, the Liberals quickly said they were going to sit one of their members. Ya, sure. The most ethically challenged government in Canadian history was going to do something that reeked of class? of decency? of humanity? Never.

    Broadbent is a class act and was a true Parlimentarian.
  11. spicydoc of the spring from Canada writes:

    martha--

    We (NTA and myself) were talking about Dion coming out and (stupidly) promising to impose the GreenShift tax no matter what. This was after Iggy had smoothed the waters a bit by suggesting ( in La Presse) that there might have to be some flexibility, given the economic turmoil.

    Minutes later the announcement that Chretien was going to 'help' Dion came out. We were wondering why Dion was throwing away the momentum he had built.
  12. bill johnson from Quebec, Canada writes: Broadbent's assessment of our environmental issues is correct. I work in the environmental field, and we lost 3 of 4 federal programs in one year in the mid-1990s that funded environmental research, and the fourth, NSERC Discovery grants, were cut retroactively by 10%. Together with other faculty members, I met with two cabinet ministers to stress that the cuts would eliminate training of young scientists in Canada. One of the ministers - Environment Minister Christine Stewart - met with us for an hour and talked about education of grade school kids for 40 minutes before I broke in and told her we were there to talk about training of graduate students and postdoctoral fellows. We finished our hour, she gave us fluffy, non-commital answers and nothing happened. She remains perhaps Canada's weakest Environment Minister ever. Her tell-tale achievement was reducing the flow rate of gasoline pumps so people in Sask, Manitoba and Alta could freeze their nads in winter.
  13. martha stewart from Canada writes: spicydoc - Thanks. I didn't realize that stubborn clinging to his Green Shift plan ranked as a gaffe in the Dion show. That's all he has. Its his priority. It must have been hard for him to get that far.
  14. Tor Hill from Canada writes: Seems to me that Chretien did pretty well. Now as for that, ahem, Strategic poll, well, it will be tempered by its own built-in discrepancie and the latest news.
  15. Wilma Guywin from Allover Canada, Canada writes: Don D from Canada writes: Mr. Broadbent said

    I heard that these guys have the nerve to come back and trot out Mr. Chretien who I repeat had one of the most misleading governments in Canadian history in the 1990s. The social problems we have today, the shortage of doctors we have today, didn't come from Mr. Harper, they came from the Liberals. The environmental problems we have today came from the Liberal government, not the last two years

    I am not NDP but Broadbent was a straight shooter and honest. Layton is nothing like him. Broadbents politics did not agree with mine but he was a fine Canadian all the same and if he says that you know it is the truth.
  16. Nancy Wilson from N.Ontario, Canada writes: Some fine Moments presented to you by the Liberal Party of Canada:
    Screw the Red Book... Don't tell me what's in the Red Book. I wrote the goddamned thing. And I know that it's a lot of crap.'
    Paul Martin, criticizing those who dared to mention the Red Book after he readily abandoned the book of popular promises once the Liberals used it to win the 1993 election.
    (Source: Double Vision: The Inside Story of The Liberals in Power, by E. Greenspon & T. Wilson-Smith.)
    Jean Chretien:
    'For me, pepper, I put it on my plate.'
    That's a sick joke Chretien told about the Canadian protesters that the RCMP sprayed down with pepper spray.
    I believe he made that comment shortly after trying to strangle a protester.
  17. Joe Canadian from Canada writes: Chretien - where's our $40 million - give it back.
  18. bill johnson from Quebec, Canada writes: Nancy...great recollection. I miss the little guy from Shawinigan boxing with protesters.

    Great Moments in Liberal Speechwriting:

    'Da proof is da proof, and when you have da good proof, dat mean it's proven'

    And to think, he is a practicing lawyer.
  19. John Hinkley from Canada writes: What a lot of people don't know is that Dion has been Chretien's boy from the beginning.

    Another good reason not to vote for Dion.

    If Dion gets in then Chretien will be able to bury the AdScam skeletons pretty deep.

    A vote for Dion is a vote for never finding out who was really behind AdScam.
  20. diane marie from calgary, Canada writes: Well, isn't it interesting that the Globe is hiding this report away from the main pages. Well, enjoy yourselves ;-).
  21. Fred Lupinski from Toronto, Canada writes: Jean 'the godfather' Cretien ran his party and the country like a mafia boss. His only claim to fame is having the greatest ego in Canadian political history (saying a lot). Broadbent is one of the few NDP MP's that I respect, and for him to hold a grudge tells us something. This 'mean streak' remains within the LPC and until they purge those who have it, they will never be what they once were.
  22. Cautionary Tale from Toronto, Canada writes: Well said John Hinkley. Dion is just Chretien's puppet and as long as JC is around he will be running the show if we are stupid enough to elect the Liberals on October14th. ABL!!!!
  23. l thibl from B.C., Canada writes: Molson Canadian from Toronto, Canada writes: 'Any ..... brown envelops were given out.' Have another beer ... Brian's got all the brown envelopes! You remember him don't you - the last Tory PM Canadians couldn't tolerate? I suspect Canadian voters may have a similar surprise for Harper come Tuesday.
  24. Mark S Noel from Canada writes: An interesting headline containing the word Chretien would be 'Chretien returns the money he stold from Canadians'. This guy is a crock and should be in jail.
  25. l thibl from B.C., Canada writes: Joe Dick from Kingston, Canada wrote: 'Wow, Dion being endorsed by a thief.'

    Think you have it backwards bud - 'Lyin Brian' endorsed Harper!!!
  26. Lord Cross of Blacks Harbour from BLACKS HARBOUR NB, Canada writes:

    'Audio expert says key part of Harper-Cadman tape not altered'--Globe & Mail

    I guess that MUST BE THE PART WHERE HARPER'S VENTRILOQUIST
    is speaking to Tom Zytaruk. 'I NEVER authorized my ventriloquist to speak to Tom Zytaruk about offering Chuck Cadman a $1-Million life insurance policy, or coming over to OUR SIDE OF THE HOUSE. That same ventriloquist is no longer permitted to speak to the last great emperor, Byron of Muldoon, Ka-Ching, Ka-Ching Dynasty, who ONLY got THREE ENVELOPES FROM READERS' DIGEST, NOT Karlheinz Schreiber. That same ventriloquist was not authorized to LIMIT THE SCOPE OF THE Byron of Muldoon INQUIRY in order that the $20-Million SLUSH FUND, post airbus sale, was kept from discussions. That's MY ALL-NEW DEFINITION OF ACCOUNTABILITY.'
  27. R Miller from Halifax, Canada writes: D. MacKay from Atlantic, Canada:

    Thanks for asking.

    Here's my take on the Steve Murphy -- Stephane Dion interview in Halifax yesterday.

    If you are the Leader of the Opposition who is criticizing the serving PM's management of the ongoing credit crisis, (that the LPC actually oversaw the creation of in the first place), you had better have a prepared answer on the eventuality that you are asked what you could do that would be better than the current PM.

    I thought that Steve Murphy's question was a completely fair and relevant question myself...

    I don't understand why the LPC have raised their protest flags on this one.

    Cheers
  28. BD from Calgary from Canada writes: Dion versus a lying thug waiting for his moment in history to make our fine country into his childhood image of right wing USA. Hummmm....how should I decide?
  29. Mark S Noel from Canada writes: Maybe Dion needs Chretien to lie through his interviews for him. Be better than trying desperately to pretend he has a plan when he doesn't.
  30. l thibl from B.C., Canada writes: Pete H from Canada wrote: 'Perhaps after thirty days of consultations his true leadership capabilities will shine?'

    We certainly hope so! But don't give up just yet - you may still have a chance if you bring out Haper's good bud, Mr. Muldoom. You remember him - the one'who treated the public purse like it was his own'.
  31. l thibl from B.C., Canada writes: James M from Canada wrote: I don't recall Chretien ever being charged with stealing anything? Is there some proof to your libel?

    No proof James M. The Tories forget it was Brian taking envelopes of cash and, to top it off, trying to steal furniture and paintings from 24 Sussex when he left. Too bad he was forced to return most it eh?
  32. Mervin Hollingsworth from Saskatoon, Sk., Canada writes: Dion is in real trouble when he has to start bringing out the old has beens to endorse him and fire up the crowd. The unfortunate part is that Dion is the leader and that is who is running to be PM. No amount of hyperboly from the former leaders can cover up this fact. Dion is the leader for better or worse. So while it was great for Liberal partisans I suspect the reality will set in tomorrow when the new polls come out reflecting Dion and that terrible interview in Halifax where he showed himself to be a doofus. The spread between Liberals and Conservatives will widen in favour of the Conservatives.
    It's amazing the number of media apologists there are trying to spin the Dion gaffe as an inability to hear, a lack of comprehension or the way the question was worded. Would the same courtesy be afforded Harper? I don't think so. Dion was asked a question he did not have the answer for and stumbled badly. All right thinking people who understand English reasonably well (and Dion does) knew the intent of the question. He did not have an answer and he pretended he did not understand. Clearly this is not someone who can think on his feet without a teleprompter, advisors or crib notes. The Conservatives are right. Dion is not worth the risk.
  33. Pete H from Canada writes: Does anybody know if Jean brought his homeless friend with him on the treck to Brampton? I can't stand Chretien, my fervent wish is that he does time before his time, but as I watched the speech he gave today, Dion's weakness as a leader became even more apparent. Perhaps after thirty days of consultations his true leadership capabilities will shine?
  34. Gord Orr from Canada writes: The Ghost Of Chretien still haunts the poop deck...his sword is still stained red with the blood of foolish Liberal's who dared to cross his path, if you dare to challenge me...DIE!
  35. Misery No one from Toronto, Canada writes: A brilliant man indeed.
  36. Michael Sharp from Victoria BC, Canada writes:

    The Globe endorses Harper.

    The Liberal Old Boys Club endorses Dion.
    The Liberal Old Boys Club gave us Adscam and the Bloc.

    The Liberal Party of Canada is not renewed.
    It is not reborn.

    It is the same Old Boys Club.

    Chretien, as Trudeau's Finance Minister, put us hundreds of billions of dollars in debt.

    Dion has learnt well.
  37. Phillip Huggan from Wpg, writes: Harper's Mom's portfolio down 10% since taking his market timing advice.
    I'm at a personal ethical impasse if the Conservatives win. Only the second time this has happened for me, lifetime. If you watch movies like 'Judgement at Nuremberg', you realize many Germans had no idea the Holocaust was being committed. That is where our country might be on the worldstage in addressing the #1 human extinction threat, AGW. I made a promise to myself a long time ago, if I was going to do the right thing instead of building a career and/or family, and the conclusion was I'd injure individuals, I'd not do so.
    Now we are at the point where the human race is about to eat its seed corn, and I'm finding my actions restricted by that promise; specifically, I'm almost cheerleading this recession on, and the subsequent drop in foreign aid, enviro R D, etc, but I`m not allowed to. Cheerleading a recession is active, and just letting AGW happen is passive. The ethical difference between a forced famine and a slaughter. I suppose the solution is to ignore Canada....I just never thought as a Canadian, my country would be evil.
  38. BD from Calgary from Canada writes: http://www.100reasons.ca/

    The perfect site for anybody harbouring any doubts about voting for Harper and his crew
  39. Dick Garneau from Canada writes: Ad-scam to Green-scam, we've hit the bottom of the barrel.
    .
  40. Randal Oulton from Toronto, Canada writes: haha! Chretien still has spunk!! And no southwestern Ontarians ever refer to him as 'that French guy', as they do Dion. How come we can't vote for Chretien??? Can we write his name in?
  41. BD from Calgary from Canada writes: Dick Garneau from Canada writes: Ad-scam to Green-scam, we've hit the bottom of the barrel.

    With Harper and Flaherty....that we have
  42. R Miller from Halifax, Canada writes: Michael Sharp from Victoria, Canada:

    The LPC could learn alot from the new and improved younger Leafs of this season ...

    This particular move would be comparable to bringing back Tiger Williams to play on the top line...

    Except Tiger Williams never tried to choke an opponent as far as I remember.

    Cheers
  43. R Miller from Halifax, Canada writes: I see the G&M censors are pulling Spicy Docs' best material from this thread....

    This is not fair !
  44. spicydoc of the spring from Canada writes:

    R Miller--

    What did they pull?? I don't feel like re-reading the thread.
  45. Counterspinner tells the truth from Canada writes: Hey Jean - show me the money - you took from adscam, shawinigate, billion dollar gun registry, billion dollar hrdc boondoggle.......
  46. l thibl from B.C., Canada writes: Vote for the party with vision and the man with integrity - vote Liberal!
  47. spicydoc of the spring from Canada writes:

    I posted this elsewhere--maybe it replaces whatever was censored:

    'The crowd ate it up, saving a huge roar for Chretien's assertion that while he was keeping Canada out of Iraq, Harper claimed to feel ashamed for being a Canadian.'

    And the myth continues.

    Chretien kept us out of Iraq but we were sent to Kandahar instead. Almost 100 casualties.

    John Howard, who shared a speech with Harper, agreed to be part of the coalition. Aus, as a 'reward' perhaps, was given low-risk deployments.

    Result?? 2 casualties in Iraq and 6 in Afstan-- 8 altogether.

    Yet people diss Howard as a 'Bush Poodle' and want to put Chretien on the 5-dollar bill for his 'brave' decision.

    Uh huh.

    Tell me again about who made the best decision for his country.....
  48. Jessie Legaree from Canada writes: The party with a vision that has yet to be formed... give them 30 days and then apparently they will have a vision.

    Yes, I think Dion has integrity: he is openly a goof.
  49. Derek Holtom from Swan River (only cowards use fake names on here), Canada writes: despite it all, Chretien still has it
    and he has a lot more of it than Dion
  50. Nickstar One from Canada writes: Stevie(aka, Sea Lion) Dion whining and his shyster mentor whining?The handpicked protege of the Prime Master(sic, Minister) of Shenanigans(personally selected from academia for having many similar traits and mannerisms to the selector and seeking a clone to maintain power and control in the Lieberal back room hierarchy), whining about supposed unfair tactics?
    This coming from Lieberals who patented 'low blow smear' as campaign strategy to create completely non-existent 'dark forces' bogeymen and maintain power for 13 miserable, tax 'to the max' and spend, years?
    Suck up a taste of your own 'medsin' arrogant, deceitful, corrupt Lieberals. Enjoy the fruits of your 'smear' labours, right behind the No Darn Possibility(NDP) Official Opposition.
    Lieberals most certainly deserve it in spades and can thank the Sultan of Shenanigans for securing a solid third place in this election just ahead of the 'Separated and Green' political comedy duo.
  51. Michael Sharp from Victoria BC, Canada writes:

    Today's Liberals, less than 96 hours away, will learn Chretien's lesson.

    Chretien won his '96 majority wth 37.5%.
    Over 60% of Canadians did NOT want a Liberal mjority in '96.

    Harper will win a majority with the same.

    Split the right.
    Split the left.

    Thank you, Lizzie May.
    Thank you, Jack.
  52. Lord Cross of Blacks Harbour from BLACKS HARBOUR NB, Canada writes:

    Is there any truth to the rumour Harper will now fire the FBI tape expert because the expert DID NOT confirm Harper's claim 'the tape was doctored?'

    Harper recording in Cadman affair intact: expert

    So ... What do Dr. Jekyll [Harper] do now ... Go into Hyding?

    Where did his VENTRILOQUIST disappear to?

    Chuck Cadman's missus doesn't want to talk about it.

    That must mean Harperooney is now NORDO, in full IFR conditions, by the range, outbound, [unavailable for comment.] The SNOWFALL has ceased in Ottawa.
  53. Michael Sharp from Victoria BC, Canada writes:

    Chretien.

    A made man.

    A Liberal.

    Yesterday's trash.
  54. Michael Sharp from Victoria BC, Canada writes:

    Dona Cadman.
    About to win her riding for the Conservatives.

    Dion.
    Still charged with libel.

    In your face.
  55. Lord Cross of Blacks Harbour from BLACKS HARBOUR NB, Canada writes:
    Betcha HIZZONER determines Dr. Jekyll's [Harper's] libel suit now without grounds to proceed. Say Shar-PEE, is your first name Craig or EZZZ-RAT? Heard they're both on reassignment.

    Still to come: Mulroney repayment to government for the $2.4 Million payout by government to 'settle' his libel lawsuit. Why did the gospel according to Saint Luc, suddenly disappear into the 'flog of conflicting testimony.' What's the word ... PEE JURY?
  56. Nickstar One from Canada writes: '... is now NORDO, in full IFR conditions, by the range, outbound, [unavailable for comment.] The SNOWFALL has ceased in Ottawa...'
    No radio, IFR outbound. Not to worry Librano Lord Cross, just heading for alternate with plenty of reserve FOB.
    Unlike Libranos, voraciously and desperately, using up all reserves a la Jean Cretine Mod Op.
  57. Lord Cross of Blacks Harbour from BLACKS HARBOUR NB, Canada writes:

    No radio, IFR outbound. Not to worry Librano Lord Cross, just heading for alternate with plenty of reserve FOB.

    Sounds to me like you're 'breaking right, without calling it,' which destroys your wingmen in the formation. 'Course, that's nothing new in Harperoony country. Any 'ploy' to distract is a good 'ploy.'

    Julie says Maxime says, 'crack another pepsi,' ... for the unwashed masses, who're onto you l'il boys and girls.
  58. Maynard G Krebs from Toronto, Canada writes:

    The lead photo of Chretien appears as if he is aping Richard Nixon doing his now-famous 'I am not a crook.'

    The next photo seems to illustrate Chretien choking a woman - he must have mistaken her for a Tory supporter.
  59. Jack Bauer from Canada writes: Go Harper. I think Elizabeth May is Ralph Nader in Drag
  60. Michael Crowell from Halifax, Canada writes: Chretien - yeah , yeah , yeah now lets talk about the 40 million still missing.
  61. Hugh May from Khon Kaen, Thailand writes: Two examples of Chretien's class:

    1) - the pepper on the steak joke after the out of control Mounties pepper sprayed the peaceful protesters during the Vancouver summit and,

    2) - his golf ball performance during the Gomery Commission.

    You have to question the judgment of Dion, if he thought this little man, with the big ego, will help the cause.
  62. Jane Doe from Canada writes: Great guy, Jean. Because he stayed past his due date I parked my vote with the conservatives last election. This time around I am staying with the conservatives because I have more faith in their leader. Still Jean's way more charismatic than any of today's pols.
  63. wayne ouellette from Canada writes: The little guy is trying to secure the $ dion probably owes him and a lot of his pals. This is real desperation. martin and creten suddenly arrive, one to sell a book and the other to get some final stage time.
    Its time liberals put country first and support Prime Minister Harper. It is also time to recognize the work done by our finance minister. john mccallum must be considering his future along with many others. Some, like turner, goodale and the rock concert fan from Nova Scotia, will not be given a choice. Go Canada Go!
  64. Robin M from Canada writes: Stephane Dion, ridiculed as he is by many for his appearance is 10 times the man Stephen Harper will ever be. He has the integrity and vision to lead Canada through these troubled times and will give us a cleaner and better Canada for the generations that follow.. Harper is not a Conservative, he is the leader of the Reform party that adopted the Conservative brand so that he could win an election... and he sure did fool a whole bunch of Canadians, many of whom supported the traditional values of the old Conservative party. These conservatives now see him for the hypocrite that he is and will reject him in this election. As well, Quebec has seen through Harper's 'bribes' for their vote and his popularity continues to decline in the province. The upcoming election in the US is fast rejecting the type of politics Harper imported from them into Canada. So should Harper get his majority, the one saving grace might be, that the more reasoned approach to the environment and the economy by a new administration in the US, (all indications point to an Obama/Biden win), will force Harper to move further to the left of center than he has done in the past 2-1/2 years. But then again, people are fed up with Harper's hypocracy and crassness and this may result in an unprecindented rejection of him when people actually get into the polling booth on October 14 when they think about the future 4 years with Harper as PM..
  65. Joseph Sis from Ottawa, Canada writes: 'Tory times are bad times' in Canada, nothing more need to be said.
  66. Clem Brown from Metcalfe, On., Canada writes:
    This is a test
    Ad-scam, rip-off artists, Chretien's balls, thieves, Kyoto light, Green Sh-ft (that was probably it) It's not nice to screw with the Jolly Green Giant. China, Murice Strong, CSL and the Chinease takeover, Chretien ties to Power Corp and China. Plausible deniability, strippergate, Sawinagate, RCMP raids, Mister Dithers, golf course sale on a napkin. Will any of this be published? Thought so.
  67. Lane Myers from Canada writes: Did Chretien by any chance mention where the still missing $40 million from the Adscam is ???

    Jus wonderin.
  68. Eric MacKinnon from Canada writes: Joseph Sis from Ottawa, Canada writes: 'Tory times are bad times' in Canada, nothing more need to be said.
    That's right Joseph, because when the Tories come to power they usually have to clean up the mess the Liberals have left behind.
    On another note, it's great to see Chretien out campaigning for the Liberals. He couldn't have picked a better time. His appearances will remind voters how much better things are now under the present prime minister. Poor Dion - with help from ex-PM Chretien and NDP/Liberal Bob Rae no wonder he's going to lose on Tuesday.
  69. Kan Tankerous from Tronna, Canada writes:

    Chretien pointed out something that is so glaringly obvious it should have been a huge campaign issue, but it wasn't:

    Peter MacKay is an embarrassing disaster.

    ABC
  70. Bill M from Canada writes: He met the Chinese leader 18 times. And how many manufacturing jobs have we lost to the Chinese?
  71. Robert Dryburgh from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada writes: I think Chretien's appearance at the event reminded many, including myself, why we no longer vote Liberal. The same would be true for the PC's if Mulroony stuck his nose in now. Those two were a couple of 'winners' that best be forgotten.
  72. Liberals are Entitled To Their Entitlements from Ottawa, Canada writes:

    I thought Dion said he didn't want Chretien's help.

    I guess that was another Liberal Lie.

    You know your in trouble when you drag out Sheila Copps and Chretien.

    YIKES!

    Those two bring back many bad memories in Canada.
  73. Daniel Holland from Canada writes: Seeing Chretien again merely reinforces our view that this party will never change its stripes. One must admire Martin for at least trying to change the LPC. This party is still stinks of arrogance and corruption. Maybe Dion could get the members out of jail in PQ to help him run his campaign.Canada would be better served if the LPC went the way of the UK Liberals.
  74. If you're voting Liberal, you must be drunk from Canada writes:
    Have you had a laugh with your coffee?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xbs7wXvh2Q

    Watch the buffoon.
  75. CG fr Toronto from Canada writes: EDITORIAL
    Star's choice: Dion, Liberals
    Oct 11, 2008 04:30 AM

    ''Prime Minister Stephen Harper has run a government that has put partisanship and ideology ahead of the public interest....

    For all these reasons, Harper and the Conservatives do not deserve to be re-elected on Tuesday....

    We prefer Dion and the Liberals...

    But Dion has shown growth in this campaign and appeared finally to be connecting with voters at the end. He has also demonstrated strength of character in withstanding a withering negative ad campaign that would have brought lesser leaders to their knees....

    Dion's intelligence is beyond question, as is his love of country....

    Finally, the Liberal platform has much in it to like, including an emphasis on building infrastructure, fighting poverty, expanding child care and working with the provinces (especially Ontario)....

    ...In summary, the re-election of Stephen Harper and the Conservatives would be bad for Toronto, bad for Ontario, and bad for Canada. Stéphane Dion and the Liberals are the best alternative.'...

    http://www.thestar.com/FederalElection/article/515895
  76. Fa Chili from SW ONTARIO, writes: A desperate act. Remember I am entitled to my entitlement said one of the Liberal Party appointees..the old post master....member of Jean C's cabinet.
    Liberal party is good to themselves.
  77. Harper can't be trusted from Canada writes: Harper told us point blank that the Cadman tapes were
    'doctored.' yet the guy Harper hired to inspect the tapes says under oath that they were not doctored. Harper LIED. AGAIN

    Is that what you want for a sub Prime Minister?

    100reasons.ca
    scandalpedia.ca
    trustbreaker.blogspot.com
    anythingbutconservative.ca

    Harper LIES.
    Harper BULLIES
    Harper muzzles your elected representatives
    Harper allegedly attempted to BRIBE an MP
    Harper allegedly committed election fraud
    Harper broke his own fixed election date law

    Harper is unfit for office.

    Trust a LEADER not a liar
  78. J M from Canada writes: When Dion has to bring in an old man to prop him up he is pathetic.wheres his dream team. Chretiens speach was full of crap. At least Broadbent has a clean past.
  79. Love the arts from Toronto, Canada writes: He haunts us still. The thought of the 'the big crook from Shawinigan' emerging to spread some of his ever-present poison around again makes me feel quite ill. I may have to pass up this year's turkey.
  80. Joseph Sis from Ottawa, Canada writes: To Eric MacKinnon: your justification of the historical fact that 'Tory times are always bad times' because they have to clean up the mess liberals had left is ludicrous. What mess did Chretien/Martin leave? Too many billions in surplus? lowest unemployement in 30 years? Liberals are the ones who inherited huge deficits and high unemployment from the Mulroney years and fixed it! Things have gone down with Harper in 2 years because of his inaction on economic growth and on driving progress on new economic initiatives: envorinment, health, etc...

    You have to remember that the Bush/Cheney/Rove crowd made exactly the same ludicrous argument critcizing the prosperous Clinton years. Look what they did to the US and the world. Harper is nothing but an appendix of the BushCheneyRumsfeldRove crowd, 100% same political DNA. Americans were duped by that gang, many of them still refuse to recognize their mistake, I hope Canadians demonstrate more wisdom. Those who pump their chest 'country first' have serious problems, those who believe them have much more serious problems.
  81. J L from Toronto, Canada writes: Chretien had the b@lls to keep us out of IRAQ! Enough said.
  82. Nickstar One from Canada writes: '....and the Liberals are the best alternative.'...
    This from the editorial board of the Toronto Red Star, quelle surprise!
    First one dictatorial dolt for 13 years, then his sidekick for about the same time that the Harper minority has lasted, and now a cloned dolt trying to push Lieberal shenanigans via remote control from the Cretin-laden backroom. Canadians don't need or want a Cretinous caricature running the country.
  83. Love the arts from Toronto, Canada writes: And once again, the proud Toronto Star (the voice of the GTA, as it fashions itself) demonstrates itself to be backward and the basketcase of Canadian journalism.
  84. J M from Canada writes: J L There were some Canadian troops in Iraq while Chretien was PM. I know this because a family member served there. Get your facts right Bud.
  85. J L from Toronto, Canada writes: Nickstar One from Canada writes... 'Canadians don't need or want a Cretinous caricature running the country.'

    Darn right! They want a PM who passes a Bill he vehemently believes in and then breaks it a couple of years later. We deserve only the best in Canada!
  86. J L from Toronto, Canada writes: J M from Canada writes.. ' J L There were some Canadian troops in Iraq while Chretien was PM. I know this because a family member served there. Get your facts right Bud..'

    Give it up J M - Canadian military personnel on exchange programs are a regular occurance.
  87. If you're voting Liberal, you must be drunk from Canada writes:

    The old criminal and the new buffoon. Comedy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xbs7wXvh2Q
  88. Alec Robertson from Riverdale, Canada writes: JL from Toronto; Re: Iraq...precisely. I wish to add that from 1995 onward things improved steadily in Canada with the Liberals at the wheel, in spite of comments to the contrary submitted by the misanthropes and malcontents on these threads.
  89. J L from Toronto, Canada writes: If you're voting Liberal... writes' The old criminal and the new buffoon. Comedy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xbs7wXvh2Q'

    What's your next act going to be - beating up poor people?

    Come on man, that interview thing is an insult to the intelligence of the Canadian people and reflects how ridiculously out of touch some (and I said some) people running things at the Conservative campaign are! This isn't high school - making fun at stupid and insignificant things is just a dumb strategy...
  90. bob saunders from Belleville, ON, Canada writes: There were 203 members of the Canadian Military in Iraq under the Liberal government. There are still 1 or 2 even to this day. People seem to forget why Harper was elected - Liberal voters have short and flawed memories.
  91. Bill Williamson from Canada writes: Wow! The LIEBBIES really have to be feeling they're in BIG trouble....bringing that crook the Cretin out of the closet to talk to the so called party faithful. They're just trying to hold on to what little support they have!
  92. D. MacKay from Atlantic, Canada writes:

    R Miller from Halifax:

    Thanks for the assessment.

    Pretty much echoes my own.

    But with the outrage pouring out by so many , I thought I was missing something, somewhere. Many posters were mentioning Duffy so this must be partisan slanging.

    Being Canadian's nature , everyone feels sorry for the deer in the headlights just before the semi slams it out of existence.

    Thanks again.
  93. R. Carriere from Maritimes, Canada writes:

    CG fr Toronto from Canada: I think we get the picture, but if it makes you feel better to continue to post the Star editorial, feel free.

    Allow me to ask you something else. Can you please name just ONE other big city editoral newspaper backing of the Dion lead Liberals?

    Globe and Mail? NO
    National Post? NO
    Montreal Gazette? NO
    Ottawa Citizen? NO
    Any French Quebec newspaper? NO

    I won't even go west of the Ontario/Manitoba border because we all know what the answer is....
    .
  94. Molson Canadian from Toronto, Canada writes: Below is Mr. Broadbent 's comments about Mr. Chretien and Liberal party policies which led to the problems we have now. Read it and draw your own conclusion. Mr. Broadbent is one of honest politicain that people can trust.

    'Mr. Broadbent's appearance came just hours before former Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien took the stage in Brampton, west of Toronto, in support of Mr. Dion.

    When asked why he had come to the Toronto event, Mr. Broadbent said he wanted “pick a fight” with Mr. Chretien.

    “I heard that he was coming, news gets around and that revved me up,” he said. “I heard that these guys have the nerve to come back and trot out Mr. Chretien who I repeat had one of the most misleading governments in Canadian history in the 1990s. The social problems we have today, the shortage of doctors we have today, didn't come from Mr. Harper, they came from the Liberals. The environmental problems we have today came from the Liberal government, not the last two years.”
  95. Bill Williamson from Canada writes: And there's good old Vern ie. Harper Can't Be Trusted. His needle's still stuck in the same old groove.

    Don't you think you need some new material Vern? Your current shtick has exhausted it's usefullness....no one even pays attention to you any more.... they know they'll just get more of the same old, same old.
  96. J L from Toronto, Canada writes: bob saunders writes...'There were 203 members of the Canadian Military in Iraq under the Liberal government. There are still 1 or 2 even to this day. People seem to forget why Harper was elected - Liberal voters have short and flawed memories..'

    Obviously Bob - Two key points (1)The Canadian military had personnel on exchange programs. (2) Canada has and had ships in the Gulf involved on the general War on terror.

    The bottom line is Canada, aside from a few exchange personnel, was not part of the Coalition of the willing.
  97. Bill M from Canada writes: Joseph Sis from Ottawa, Canada writes: To Eric MacKinnon: your justification of the historical fact that 'Tory times are always bad times' because they have to clean up the mess liberals had left is ludicrous. What mess did Chretien/Martin leave? Too many billions in surplus? lowest unemployement in 30 years? Liberals are the ones who inherited huge deficits and high unemployment from the Mulroney years and fixed it!

    And what mess did Trudeau leave? He invented deficit financing.
  98. Ron Preston from Canada writes: Jean Chrétien this would be the last guy I would bring out to rally the Liberal troops. He was the leader of the Liberal party that robbed and stole money from taxpayers to give to Liberal cronies. I guess nothing changes when it comes to the Liberals.
    The citizens of Canada should read Paul Martins book and see what he thinks of Jean Chrétien. HERE'S A HINT he under mined Paul Martin and his leadership of the Liberal Party.
    Dion watch your back.
  99. A Chinaman from Canada writes: Who is running for PM? Chretein or Dion, Rae or Dion, Iggy or Dion?
    The Liberals are confused!
  100. If you're voting Liberal, you must be drunk from Canada writes:
    Criminal and buffoon. The coalition of the laughable.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xbs7wXvh2Q
  101. Joseph Sis from Ottawa, Canada writes: Bill M from Canada: 'Tory times are always bad times'

    You bring Trudeau with respect to deficits. These were tiny and justifiable deficits as the whole world was going through a huge economic crisis during the 70's and until 82. After the Trudeau years (I think we can skip the irrelevant tenures of Clark/Turner) who did we get? the conservatives and 'Mulroney on the take years' eight years of exploding deficits, debt, unemployment and corruption all the way to the PMO office (airbus affair)who regularly hoildayed with the Bushes. 'Tory times are always bad times' is a historical fact going back to the 19th century. This is the case because it is the tories who believe that government should take a back seat and make all the wishes come true for the lobbyists of defence, oil industries, etc..Diefenbaker destroying and trashing the Avrow program (most adavanced aerospace technology of its time) on orders from Washington is one example....'Tory times are always bad times' is a fact and for a reason that would make another Tory government inevitably the cause of more bad times for Canadians. In fact worse, Reform party times are bound to be worse, we seem to forget that Harper and company are reform party separatists in conservative clothes.
  102. Farm Boy from Big City, Canada writes: In the US, Chretien's LPC would have been investigated under the RICO Act. That's R.I.C.O. - as in Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations. Today, to think that a reputable man like Stephane Dion would be able to keep the racketeers out of the LPC is to delude yourself. He would not be in charge.
  103. west slope from Canada writes: ---
    Love him or hate him, Chretien was one of Canada's most successful prime ministers.

    He will be remembered for restoring fiscal sanity and keeping Canada out of Iraq.

    BTW, indeed, what was Harper thinking when he recommended Canadians look for bargains in the stock market 1,000 points ago?

    I respect Harper's intelligence and competence. Too bad that 'Trust me, I'm an economist' Harper has to lie and mislead Canadians on a variety of economic policy and environmental issues even worse than anything fib-a-minute Dr. David Suzuki has ever done.