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spicydoc of the spring from Canada writes:
Harper 144 (90% likely) or 180 (10% likely).
I've called Harper 144 all along and stick to it.
However, something interesting might happen re Quebec.
IF Harper appears to heading for a majority without Quebec, watch for tons of the 'protest' voters in PQ vote for the CPC at the last minute.
Holding the balance of power for a minority is fun, but being completely shut out of government for 4 years isn't.
Which is why I have 2 predictions. 144 still the odds-on bet.....- Posted 10/10/08 at 9:20 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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1 2 from Canada writes: Seem to have some problems with that last attempt to post, so I will try again. . . .
This poll will be irrelevant after news of the update on the Cadman affair gets out!!!!
Interesting how this is a headliner, especially in light of the fact that our PM has been proven to be a liar by his own expert!!!
My own little prediction: Harper - zero seats in Ontario!- Posted 10/10/08 at 9:26 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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North Star from Canada writes: I want some of spicydoc's weed.
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not surprised from Canada writes: WTF??!?!?!?!?! weren't the liberals ahead in Ontario going into yesterday??????
These polls make absolute no sense.....Nothing happened to swing 10 % in a day. These polls are being released on a day that the result of the cadamna tape came out.....an absolute shameful act by the media to deflect the attention away.....if you doubt it i'd brush up on issue framing...
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Paul Byer from Canada writes: The news just keeps getting better. I predict Dion will also vote for Harper just out of habit. It would be his 44th time in 2 years.
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simon doiron from on a cross country tourseeking employment, Canada writes:
nanos Poll
Cons-33%
Libs- 27%
NDP-22%
How is this a majority? He is lucky to win a minority, wait till the backlash of DION'S English comes into play. he will lose every seat in Quebec.
The GM is losing a lot of credibility in this election.
Again I ask, Mr/Ms Editor, How much of the $50 Billion dollars are you getting from these corporate tax breaks?- Posted 10/10/08 at 9:28 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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R B from Alberta, Canada writes: I think this election comes down to a choice between two basic approaches - tax and spend policies on the left (Liberal, NDP, Green, and Bloc), and lower taxes/less spending on the right (Conservative).
The markets continued their meltdown today. I'm old enough to retire, but thankfully still working. Good thing too, because my savings that would have supported a modest retirement a few weeks ago will no longer do so today. So I'll keep working and hope things turn around and I recover my paper losses. Which party's stewardship of the economy will make that more likely to happen? Too me there is only one choice - the Conservatives.- Posted 10/10/08 at 9:31 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Paul Byer from Canada writes: not surprised from Canada writes: WTF??!?!?!?!?! weren't the liberals ahead in Ontario going into yesterday??????
These polls make absolute no sense.....Nothing happened to swing 10 % in a day.
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Dion's true being came out yesterday and swayed it for sure. Anyone who saw his video and still votes for him deserves the disappointment. Imagine him on the world stage! You don't get to script your answers there and get the questions repeated time and time again. What an embarassment he would have been along with his financial adviser Rae who is, by his own admission a failure on economics. Wow!- Posted 10/10/08 at 9:32 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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spicydoc of the spring from Canada writes:
North Star from Canada writes:
'I want some of spicydoc's weed.'
I was also taunted for predicting that the gloab would endorse Harper. Waddya know.
Harper 144/180. Put cash on 144.
PS--no you can't have any..... ;)- Posted 10/10/08 at 9:33 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Philip Yu from Toronto, Canada writes: 37-32 or 33-27, as per Nanos? 144 for the CPC? Get outta here...try something like 120-110, CPC-LPC or perhaps vice versa.
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john may from writes: Went out tonight and bought my champagne for Tuesday.
Made in France.- Posted 10/10/08 at 9:35 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Dan Zenderman from TO, Canada writes: ABC you say ?...how about K-MAD....Kiss My Ar$e Danny !
Tory victory without Nfld. or Quebec .- Posted 10/10/08 at 9:36 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Andrew E from Canada writes: simon doiron from on a cross country tourseeking employment, Canada writes:
nanos Poll
Cons-33%
Libs- 27%
NDP-22%
How is this a majority? He is lucky to win a minority, wait till the backlash of DION'S English comes into play. he will lose every seat in Quebec.
>> Oh yeah, 'cause they just LOVE Dion in Quebec.- Posted 10/10/08 at 9:38 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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garlick toast from Canada writes: This will be a real test of journalistic integrity, will the G&M now withdraw their endorsement? If not, it will be a serious blow to their credibility.
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simon doiron from on a cross country tourseeking employment, Canada writes: How can you win a majority government with at best 33% of the populous?
Mr harper why have you constantly lied, Cadman, price of the war, election dates, the economy, telling everyone to buy stocks when the market is still tumbling down.
Why are the 30% of Canadians want to vote for this guy is beyond me?
He only has mass support in Alberta and to some extent in Sask and BC ( but that is falling).
Go NDP!- Posted 10/10/08 at 9:40 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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DON BARTA from Canada writes: -
- The only poll that counts is the one on election day !
- Spin doctors can manipulate numbers by how the questions are asked, where they are asked, etc, etc, etc.
- People are not always truthfull when they answer.
- It's a shame that elections can be won or lost by the choices of the undecided - who change their minds with every new headline or news story.......
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Richard Daystrom from Toronto, Canada writes: Ontario, don't vote Tory!!! Dion intends to suck Alberta dry to buy your vote. If Harper is PM again, he'll spoil the party and treat all provinces equally. No Natural Governing Party should ever allow the west to have a voice in Confederation. Why do you think a Lieberal PM is a Quebec/Ont PM?
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Harvey Mushman from cambridge, Canada writes: 1 2 from Canada writes: 'This poll will be irrelevant after news of the update on the Cadman affair gets out!!!!'
I doubt it will have much effect on voters. Certainly not as much as Dion's bumbling CTV fiasco.
1 2 from Canada writes: 'My own little prediction: Harper - zero seats in Ontario!'
Good luck with that. Have another sip of Liberal Kool-Aid while you wait for poll results to come in Tuesday night. Only question will be whether Harper gets his slim majority...which I highly doubt. Most likely stronger Harper minority with a reduced 'Liberal opposition' (an oxymoron...I know.)
Personally I hope the Liberals don't drop too much in their seat count...then Dion can plead his case to stay on as leader. How dull would it be without the Court Jester of Parliament around?- Posted 10/10/08 at 9:43 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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dick brown from missy, Canada writes: Jack Layton(NDP)...muppet show!
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Iam Becoming More Conservative:-((( from Ordinary, Canada writes: Whateva G&M/CTV... Give me a break.. I believe Nanos over your polls anyday.. Go LIbs Go
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garlick toast from Canada writes: The Liberals can now counter sue for malicious prosecution.They won't have to fund-raise, they'll have all the cons' war chest.The question now is, will there be criminal charges?
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Wilma Guywin from Allover Canada, Canada writes:
Well we all know the Liberals are opposed to belt tightening they made such a stink over the arts cuts. Canadians need to get their priorities in order and get behind Harper and give him a clear majority.
Belt-tightening should be paramount, Mr. Robson, of the C.D. Howe Institute, said. 'If you're going to spend up to your income when times are very good, you've got to spend down to it when times are bad,' he said. He adds recent U.S. experience has shown fiscal stimulus rarely lasts in the face of a financial tsunami.
The most important thing the new government could do, said Mr. Robson, is to ensure the country's fiscal status is the envy of the world.
'This is a beauty contest and I want us to be the most beautiful,' he said.- Posted 10/10/08 at 9:55 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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R Dodger from Mudville, Canada writes: Frankly, a Conservative minority will be able to ruile as if it has a majority again for the foreseeable future, as the Libs will have ZERO $$$ on hand and millions in debt, after this thing is done on Tuesday.
Further, they have no chance of raising more under D-Yawn and the cost of the likely leadership race will bleed them for at least another year.
Harper has done a great job as PM, though I would have appreciated a platform with some significant tax cuts and gov't spending reductions.- Posted 10/10/08 at 9:55 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Paul Byer from Canada writes: dick brown from missy, Canada writes: Jack Layton(NDP)...muppet show!
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He was quite the idiot on the French debate when he stated that he would ban handguns on the streets of Canada. Most people missed that one. Must have stolen that line from Miller. They think there isn't already a ban on handguns on Canadian streets. Problem is they only wants it to be enforced on law abiders and not the criminals. Harper has the right idea. Mandatory sentences so weak kneed judges cannot usurp the intention of the law, to deter and punish. 80% of the voters will vote against Layton and approximately 75% will vote against Dion. That is the good news for Canada.- Posted 10/10/08 at 9:56 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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simon doiron from on a cross country tour seeking employment, Canada writes:
The Conservative vote is dropping! LMAO
Take a look at the rallies
You have at least one person handcuffed at every Harper rally,
What the heck! I have never seen such a dangerous man besides George W Bush
$2.87 for kids Harper (18 Billion for War in Afganistan which kill kids)
$400.00 for kids Layton
You pick your meagre tax cuts with Harper and see how is in 4 years (not that he will ever get a majority)LMAO- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:01 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Vickky Angstrom from Canada writes: Harper published and distributed a book on how to stop government from working to his MP's -- wasting millions of tax dollars that are spent on research and support for committees and government. How can anyone vote for a man who would sabotage his own government?
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Paul Byer from Canada writes: garlick toast from Canada writes: The Liberals can now counter sue for malicious prosecution.They won't have to fund-raise, they'll have all the cons' war chest.The question now is, will there be criminal charges?
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I would suggest you take a Law 101 course before speculating on Canadian law. The tape is useless for the Liberals as, like in the Nixon affair, parts of it were taped over for obvious reasons and totally discredits its use. If if was proven to be doctored at the beginning it would have been of further use for Harper but the fact that the rest of the tape was doctored or taped over, makes it useless as evidence for the Liberals. It's evidenciary value would lean more towards Harpers allegations. We don't know what was on the rest of it, whether certain allegations were dispelled or explained. The question in the minds of a civil jury will be simple: Why did the reporter destroy the rest of the tape? An intelligent question and I am sure they will come to a logical conclusion.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:03 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Johnny Test from Pork belly, Canada writes: Canadians are wise giving the Conservatives at least a stable minority to deal with the economy.
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Harvey Mushman from cambridge, Canada writes: garlick toast from Canada writes: 'The question now is, will there be criminal charges?'
Soon I hear. ADSCAM insiders are reportedly 'singing' to the RCMP's ongoing investigation of the Liberal kick back scheme.
Other court challenges are already underway to recover additional funds pocketed by Liberal cronies via ADSCAM.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:05 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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J. Hangdog from Canada writes: The article says :
'Meanwhile, a survey of 45 key battleground ridings in Ontario, British Columbia and Quebec shows the Tories have recovered somewhat from a difficult week.'
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'...recovered somewhat from a difficult week' doesn't sound like majority territory.
whenever the spectre of a harper majority raises its ugly, the cpc numbers start to flag
when's the endpoint on poll reporting during an election? 48 hours prior?
ultimate likely result: another harper minority (slim chance of lib minority), his gamble fails --and all the attendant risks of crude opportunism laid bare
300 mill and reams of newsprint later: the status quo?
coalition govt?- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:08 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Jack Jones from Canada writes: I don't believe it.
You cons are going to wake up on the 15th with Prime Minister Dion.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!
So there!- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:09 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Paul Byer from Canada writes: garlick toast from Canada writes: They won't have to fund-raise,
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And you are right, they won't have to fund raise. Like stealing from the taxpayers, they will stick it to their creditors from the last election and this one by declaring bankruptcy. The only toast left around here will be Dion.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:10 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Johnny Test from Pork belly, Canada writes: Jack Jones from Canada writes: I don't believe it.
You cons are going to wake up on the 15th with Prime Minister Dion.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!
Then he can tax you for being a carbon based life form.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:11 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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J. Hangdog from Canada writes:
Paul,
the beginning wasn't 'doctored'; the guy said that the 'undoctored' portion of the tape was taped over an earlier part of the interview: people often record over used tape.
the portion of the tape which Harper claims was doctored-- in which he admits to knowing about 'financial considerations' in exchange ofr Cadman changing his vote-- is authentic and unedited.
That's gotta hurt...- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:12 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Brian C from Canada writes:
and even the G&M has come out today backing Harper for PM.
A minority CPC government is the worst thing for the LPC.
Dion will have to back the CPC in the HOC because they can't afford another election.
And the LPC is so broke, they won't even be able to afford the convention to get rid of him.
Say goodbye to the LPC as you know it.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:13 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Derek Blood from Canada writes: 1 2 from Canada writes: Seem to have some problems with that last attempt to post, so I will try again. . . .
This poll will be irrelevant after news of the update on the Cadman affair gets out!!!!
Interesting how this is a headliner, especially in light of the fact that our PM has been proven to be a liar by his own expert!!!
My own little prediction: Harper - zero seats in Ontario!
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I saw the cadman affair reported on Mike Duffy tonight. It seems the tape was mofifed though pauses / omissions and rewound, etc. Depends on what you consider tampered. Also, they reported that it will have no impact on the election whatsoever.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:13 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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RED STAR from Canada writes: GLOBAL FINANCIAL EXPERTS SAY CANADA HAS IT RIGHT!!!!
Job growth while other countries stuggle!!!!
Surplus revenue in Ottawa!!!!
Other countries predict growth in Canada next year!!!!
The BEST BEST BEST banking structure IN THE WORLD!!!!
Best of the G7 nations in terms of financial stabiltity!!!!
No wonder that after careful consideration and analysis that many organizations and media are putting their support behind Stephan Harper and the Conservatives.
As for Dion. Dion is an inteligent, pasionate Canadian.
He has fought a hard battle. He can be proud of that.
If I ran into Dion in a bar I would be the first to buy him a drink.
I totally disagree with his political ideas but I respect him as a Canadian.
HAPPY THANKS GIVING EVERYONE.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:14 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Mickey Hickey from Toronto, Canada writes: If the winner of this election has a majority it will be a case of ruing what they wished for. Entering a serious recession is exactly where Bob Rae found himself when he took office, a most unhappy time was had by all through no fault that was Rae's. R B Bennet also did not fare very well in the 1930s'. The winner will have my sympathy and hopefully we will all survive the next 4-5 yrs.
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Joe Dick from Kingston, Canada writes: Jack Jones from Canada writes: I don't believe it.
You cons are going to wake up on the 15th with Prime Minister Dion.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!
So there!
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That is what a democracy is all about. If that is Canada's choice so be it.
I will not insult or begrudge a fellow Canadian for voting with their conscience. I have seen many a post here calling the other side 'stupid' for not voting like they do.
Those who do, I take pity on.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:23 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Iam Becoming More Conservative:-((( from Ordinary, Canada writes: NICE ENDORSMENT GLOBE AND MAIL ENDORSES A LIAR AND CHEAT...
Hey how come this isn't the main Headline G&M??? Oh I forgot.. that bogus poll you and your sister commisioned was more important>>>
I guess the only way to make this story known is to post it on Facebook and Youtube.. Learned that from CTV:-)))
Time to fire your editor G&M..- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:26 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Johnny Test from Pork belly, Canada writes: Harper will win because he truly is the best leader to deal with this situation. He won't kill jobs by raising corporate taxes nor will he tax you for being made of carbon...
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Henry Allen from East Bank, Don River, Canada writes:
My wish is coming true. I want a Conservative minority and fewer seats for the Liberals, but enough to keep them the official opposition. I, and a lot of other Canadians, do not want Harper to have a majority. I also want the Liberals to have fewer seats, but still the official opposition. Harper does an okay job as PM as long as he's forced to negotiate with Parliament. But, fewer seats for the Liberals means they have to rebuild, starting with the replacement of Dion.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:27 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Derek Blood from Canada writes: simon doiron from on a cross country tour seeking employment, Canada writes:
The Conservative vote is dropping! LMAO
Take a look at the rallies
You have at least one person handcuffed at every Harper rally,
What the heck! I have never seen such a dangerous man besides George W Bush
$2.87 for kids Harper (18 Billion for War in Afganistan which kill kids)
$400.00 for kids Layton
You pick your meagre tax cuts with Harper and see how is in 4 years (not that he will ever get a majority)LMAO
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- Yeah, look at the reallies: Harper gets huge crowds. Dion has to bring out his relatives to events.
- harper = bush. blah blah blah. seriously, its getting old and its just not true. Learn some new propaganda please.
- Layton's $400 for kids. The nanny state.....one more reason not to vote for the communist. Raise your own kids. I would like a new car. That would make me a happy and more productive member of the workforce and I think you should pay for it. Sound ridiculous? no more so than forcing others to raise your kids.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:30 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Johnny Test from Pork belly, Canada writes: Henry Allen from East Bank, Don River, Canada writes:
My wish is coming true. I want a Conservative minority and fewer seats for the Liberals, but enough to keep them the official opposition.
That is bad for this time. I don't want to see Layton pushing for corporate tax hikes.. or else.. nor do I want to see the Bloc blackmailing the government for more money for Quebec. the only way Ontario is going to have a say is to vote Conservative in droves so that the Bloc is squeezed out.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:31 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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simon doiron from on a cross country tour seeking employment, Canada writes:
Uhmm nobody is raising corporat taxes! This is a corporate tax cut that is already on the books. Get your facts straight.
Where will the government get their money to run the country?
Maybe from donations from corporations which they will get another tax break.
I dont think so, that money will endup in the CEO's pocket.
Research how much the boss at the royal bank gets. Its mind numbing.
Vote for Jack, Jim Henson was a good guy by the way, kids learnt alot from watching that show.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:32 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Babbleon ! from Canada writes: A five year old could have understood that question, a vote for Dion is a pity vote.
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Jack Jones from Canada writes: Tax me for being a carbon life form? OK!
I'd much rather have Dion tax me because he is at least a responsible leader and a visionary as opposed to Dumbo waste my $$$ on Afghanistan.
Harper is not a good leader. He is a panderer. He will do whatever it takes to get a vote. Dion at least stands for something, even if it's not popular.
Politics is a wonderful. fascinating thing. Who would've thought the financial storm would have wreaked such havoc on Mr Harper. He never could have guess what he was in store for.
Thins are not going well for Stephen.
Dion will be PRime Minister on Wednesday!- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:33 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Hugh May from Khon Kaen, Thailand writes: Jack, you and Olivia can unpack your bags. The two of you will not be making the move to Stornoway. Why is The NDP still at 20%? It is that face you see in the mirror every morning Jack, when you shave. A lot of talk Jack, to keep your name in the press and very little else. IF I was still living in Toronto-Danforth Jack, my vote would be Liberal. Dennis Mills, Jack was a good representative.
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Luke Morrow from Canada writes: 15 Sep 2008, Prof Harper says, “My own belief is if we were going to have some kind of big crash or recession, we probably would have had it by now,” Harper told reporters as the U.S. financial system continued its Britney-class meltdown.
There you have it; Mr. Harper says no recession in Canada. Don’t worry.
Where has the surplus gone, to buy votes that’s where? Who cares if there is no money left for future years?
“A reduction of one percentage point in the GST - on top of a previous reduction, and against the advice of virtually every economic expert. That move alone accounted for $34-billion in lost revenue. Now the cupboard is bare as the economy slows, and the Conservatives have only themselves to blame.”
This is the sound fiscal policies from the Conservatives which will cushion Canadians from the financial melt down.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:36 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Luke Morrow from Canada writes: Taxpayers Federation Updates Conservative’s Pre-Election Spending to $19.2-billion
The 2008 budget set spending growth at 3.4 per cent this fiscal year. The department of finance reported last month that expenditures grew by 11.1 per cent in June alone and swelled an eye-popping 8.4 per cent in the first three months of the year. This is two-and-a-half times the 2008 budget plan.
“The Conservatives continue to claim they will still hit 3.4 per cent in spending growth for the year, but they’ve proven throughout their term in office that they can’t stop themselves from spending,” said CTF research director Adam Taylor. “Their first budget called for Ottawa’s expenditures to grow by 5.4 per cent in fiscal 2006/07. At the end of that year government receipts had jumped by 7.5 per cent. The 2007 budget plan announced an additional 5.6 per cent spending hike. The real amount in 2007/08 was a 6.9 per cent increase.”
The Conservatives don’t know how to close the money vault. They spend like drunken monkeys.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:40 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Art Vandelai from Burlington, Canada writes: Meanwhile...BC Conservatives are advocating strategic voting...FOR the Greens!
http://www.teambc.ca/2008/10/10/freefalling-conservatives-panucking-in-british-columbia/
What a strange election!- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:40 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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simon doiron from on a cross country tour seeking employment, Canada writes:
Hey Hugh how are the kids in Thailand?
The liberals are the ones that stole all that money in adscam arent they, i still havent forgot
and they are the ones who introduced the huge tax break which harpo is following through on
and by the way according to Nanos(which is probably the best at polling) they are only 5 points behind the Libs
I think alot of people are over looking the NDP, but will get a shock on voting day!- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:41 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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R Miller from Halifax, Canada writes: The fact is that the CPC are currently the only party that can unite this country from coast to coast...
It now looks like it could be very close to a CPC majority government even without Quebec...
Will Margaret Atwood be separating, I wonder ?
Happy Thanksgiving Weekend to all the political hacks out there.
Cheers- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:43 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Babbleon ! from Canada writes: Jack Jones from Canada writes: Tax me for being a carbon life form? OK!
I'd much rather have Dion tax me because he is at least a responsible leader and a visionary as opposed to Dumbo waste my $$$ on Afghanistan.
A leader of what Jacko,can't understand English,can't speak English, is Dion going to take the troops out of Afgan,NO
What can he do?- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:43 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Brian C from Canada writes:
Here's something to keep in mind.
John Turner, the shortest serving PM in Canadian history, saw the LPC reduced to just 40 seats after the 1984 election.
He had 28% national support from that election.
Dion's running around 25% support.
B-bye Dion.
Who's next LPC? Rae? I can't wait.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:44 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Johnny Test from Pork belly, Canada writes: Jack Jones from Canada writes: Tax me for being a carbon life form? OK!
I'd much rather have Dion tax me because he is at least a responsible leader and a visionary as opposed to Dumbo waste my $$$ on Afghanistan.
A lot of that money was spent during the Liberals time in office. Some of that cost is what you would pay even if our troops remained home. The rest is spent on replacing obsolete equipment which really shouldn't be included here because it can be reused for other missions.
As for comments about being taxed..you opinion is probably in the minority . Please be objective.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:44 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Iam Becoming More Conservative:-((( from Ordinary, Canada writes: “I don't know the details, I know that, um, there were discussions, um, but this is not for publication?” Mr. Harper replies on the tape.
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western thought from Calgary, Canada writes: Interesting comments, most of which seem oblivious of the fact there are more seats now in the West (and more coming) than in Quebec. It's not over yet. But the old order is over - soon. We're either in or we're out.
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bill johnson from Quebec, Canada writes: not surprised from Canada writes: WTF??!?!?!?!?! weren't the liberals ahead in Ontario going into yesterday??????
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Sadly for you, they saw the video of the incoherent professor. Soon, students in Montreal will be regaled with stories from thecampaign trail from the Video Professor. I suspect he will be teaching in a Comm Studies dept.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:47 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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bill johnson from Quebec, Canada writes: Johnny Chretien's gift to Canada: a cap on big business contributions resulting in the eventual bankruptcy of the Liberal Party of Canada. I think Johnny was smoking some of that decriminalized pot when he drafted that bill.
Luv ya Johnny, your name will go down in history for that one.- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:50 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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bill johnson from Quebec, Canada writes: Quick. Get Dalton to ship a couple mil to various 'ethnic' cricket clubs in the city big to save his big brother. Worked once, should work again.
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Richard Provencher from Truro, NS, Canada writes: Mr. Layton seems stuck again at the 18-20% range. I can't figure out why he keeps repeating the same message again and again, as previous NDP leaders. It is all so boring, and so much time is spent putting us to sleep without talking about their plans and the issues they believe in and how they will make them come true. The old message is, 'Take away tax breaks from Big Business.' Who do you think provides those tens of thousands of jobs, Mr. Layton?
My wife and I will be voting for a strong and steady hand on the tiller, and the man we support is Mr. Harper. We also commend the Globe and Mail for endorsing Mr. Harper and the Conservatives. If only the people of Toronto take a good look at the kinds of help given them by the Conservatives, they'll realize much has been done. Vote Harper!- Posted 10/10/08 at 10:56 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Hugh May from Khon Kaen, Thailand writes: Simon, thanks for asking about the family. They are all fine but a lttle old to be called kids. My three step-daughters; Uooh (25), Fang (23) , Oa (21) and 15 month grand daughter, Kowpun are all at the home this weekend. My sister and her husband arrive in Bangkok on Sunday. Tell me truthfully is BC Bud as good as I hear it is. The THC content much higher than in my old UWO days. Simon, you must be on something to think Jack, and the NDP will surprize anyone on Wednesday morning. Or is it too many Mooseheads this evening?
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Shawn Bull from Canada writes: Ontario and Canada have a habit of jumping from the NDP to the Liberals at the last minute. This is going to be a very close race. It's anybody's game right now.
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neil b from edmonton, Canada writes: Hockey players must know how to skate. Mechanics must know how an engine works. Politicians must know how to communicate, it's necessary to express their thoughts and opinions.
Poor Dion.....doesn't communicate effectively.
Dion would be a risk on the world stage. Not to mention somewhat of an embarrassment. The default world language is English. Dion does not articulate the English language well at all. I am not poking fun at Dion, I am stating fact.
Dion and Layton will form a coalition in order to implement the GREEN SHIFT TAX GRAB SCHEME and the CANCELLATION OF TAX INCENTIVES for the job creaters in Canada. Many people will suffer under this far left coalition and this country will go into a recession under the REGIME OF DION AND LAYTON.
People, don't get taken in by the innuendo, smears and lies of the left wing activists. These coalition zealots have put the WELL BEING OF CANADA at risk just for seizing POWER alone. These people don't have a plan. Unless you consider 30 days of meetings Dion is proposing while the world economic crisis deepens.
This country is at the cross roads of it's very existence. It's best to stay with the people who have kept this world crisis to a mere ripple here in Canada while other counties are on the brink of bankruptcy. Harper and Flaherty are doing a good job in a calm, coherent fashion. I'll vote for these guys to continue keeping my butt out of the fire during this economic world meltdown. Well done Mr. Harper. Well done Mr. Flaherty.
I feel kind of proud that we are in as good a position as we are considering the plight other countries are facing. Well Done!- Posted 10/10/08 at 11:02 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Iam Becoming More Conservative:-((( from Ordinary, Canada writes: What the G&M says..On balance, the Tory Leader remains the best man for the job in the tough times now upon us. ...
What the G&M's best man for the job says: “I don't know the details, I know that, um, there were discussions, um, but this is not for publication?” Mr. Harper replies on the tape.
But wait a minute he says he didnt say it...OOPS he Lied- Posted 10/10/08 at 11:06 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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garlick toast from Canada writes: Wrong spin Paul Byer from Canada. Harper's own expert said the pertinent part of the tape was unaltered.Nixon, on the other hand, erased an 18 minute segment during which the Watergate burglary was discussed.
Harper thought he could use the courts to stick it to the libs., part of Flanagan's plan to destroy them. In light of the obvious admission of guilt, Harper deserves no mercy,neither from the courts nor the voters.- Posted 10/10/08 at 11:09 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Tom Paine from Don't let Harper kick you while you're down -- vote strategically -- www.voteforenvironment.ca, writes: .
Have some self respect, tories -- don't vote for a crook!
HARPER APPROVED A BRIBE!
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=2bef5a15-21ad-4224-9d1a-1cc579dbcf9d
Criminal Code s. 119 breach: http://tinyurl.com/44wvcz
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garlick toast from Canada writes: Maybe Harper offered Globemedia the C.B.C as a reward for their loyalty. Someone within will spill to relieve their conscience.
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J. Michael from Australia writes: To the people of Ontario; do your country a favour and give Harper and the Conservatives the majority they deserve.
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Phil H from Toronistan, Canada writes: Paul Byer from Canada writes: 'The news just keeps getting better. I predict Dion will also vote for Harper just out of habit. It would be his 44th time in 2 years.'
HAHAHAHA XDDDDD- Posted 10/10/08 at 11:24 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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J A from Ottawa, Canada writes: Whoever wins this election will have a very rough term in the next 4 - 5 years, and will almost certainly lose the next election. Good luck!
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Phil H from Toronistan, Canada writes: I hope Liberal supporters vote in this election like Liberal MPs voted in the house of commons.
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Lection Fever from east to west all across, Canada writes: The libtards here are pathetic.
Dion is an anchor from France with a retarded tax scheme.
Get a grip, and move on.- Posted 10/10/08 at 11:28 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Just the Facts, Jack from Canada writes: Harper and the Canadian Mission in Afghanistan Oct 2001, a CAN Navy Task Force is sent to the Arabian Sea; Feb 2002, CAN soldiers land in Afghanistan joining US Operation Enduring Freedom; July 2003, CAN soldiers sent to Kabul under ISAF Command; May 2005, CAN soldiers return to Kandahar Province; Jan 2006, CAN diplomat killed in addition to the 8 Canadian soldiers who died serving their country; Feb 2006, Harper becomes Canada’s 22nd Prime Minister; Feb 2006, PPCLI takes over front line duties in Kandahar Province from US Task Force; Mar 2006, “Cutting and running is not my way”, Harper tells CAN soldiers at Kandahar airfield; May 2006, Harper’s 2 year extension passes in the House of Commons; Sept 2006, “To make the world safer and help eliminate the terror behind 911, Canada’s military participation in Afghanistan is necessary” Harper pledges; Oct 2007, Harper calls for independent panel to study extending existing commitment beyond 2009; Jan 2008, Manley report recommends extension beyond 2009 on the condition that an additional battle group and medium lift helicopters including unmanned aerial surveillance drones are secured before 2009; Jan 2008, Harper announces the mission will be extended to 2011. House of Commons passes Mar 2008; April 2008, Harper seeks injunction to block public hearings by independent Military Police Complaints Commission; Sept 2008, MacKay report sets future costs at 8 billion; Harper states CAN will leave in 2011; Oct 2008, Parliamentary Budget Officer estimates costs to be as high as 21 billion; 97 CAN soldiers, 1 CAN diplomat and 2 CAN aid workers have paid the ultimate sacrifice.
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Mervin Hollingsworth from Saskatoon, Sk., Canada writes: The fact is that Canadians are reacting to the reality that Dion could become PM. That scares the hell out of them knowing that Dion's new carbon tax will impose $40 billion in new taxes and some $50 billion in new program spending which is really wealth distribution. There is no environmental plan because there are no targets and even Liberal candidates admit there will be no change in GHGs even with the new carbon tax. So we have the reality setting in that while Canadians may not want a Conservative majority if they continue to support the Liberals they could end up with a Liberal government who will impose those higher taxes. Recent reports showing Harper's steps to protect the Canadian economy as best as he can are working out and the doom and gloom from the opposition parties is just electoral politics.
I do hope Francophone Quebecers come to their senses and elect Conservatives so that they can be part of the national government. Failing to do that will result in Quebec's voice not being around the cabinet table. Think carefully people. Vote for a strong leader. Stephen Harper is the one and only person running in this campaign that is qualified to manage the Canadian economy.- Posted 10/10/08 at 11:31 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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garlick toast from Canada writes: J. Michael from Australia writes: To the people of Ontario; do your country a favour and give Harper and the Conservatives the majority they deserve.
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tie your kangaroo down sport.............what have you got against Ontario?- Posted 10/10/08 at 11:31 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Robert Wiseman from Scarborough, ON, Canada writes: Why do I keep reading the lies about the NDP plans? The NDP will NOT be raising corporate taxes. What they will be doing is cancelling the $50 billion giveaway that Harper and the Liberals are planning. I much prefer the NDP plans for that money and so I will vote for them.
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Tom Paine from Don't let Harper kick you while you're down -- vote strategically -- www.voteforenvironment.ca, writes: Johnny Test from Pork belly, Canada writes: Harper will win because he truly is the best leader to deal with this situation.
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Harper sent henchmen to offer a bribe. That's against the law, section 119 of the Criminal Code.
Don't vote for a crook.- Posted 10/10/08 at 11:31 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Just the Facts, Jack from Canada writes: The Globe's editorial endorsement:
On balance, the Globe and Mail's editorial board should explain to Canadians how Prime Minister Harper has improved on these areas from what Prime Minister Paul Martin had handed over: health care, education, the lives of Aboriginal and First Nations, the environment, and the economy. Most Canadians would say their lives are worse off, not because of recent economic events, but poor planning that included wasteful spending over the last 2.5 years. How does the Globe place leadership above the income trust decision that hammered seniors and the small cap energy industry. Or the 60 billion in lost revenues due to GST cuts over 5 years when income splitting would have cost only 50 billion and put money directly in the pockets of seniors. How does the Globe argue with global climate change scientists and economists who agree carbon pricing is by far the best policy for addressing issues our grandchildren will have to face?- Posted 10/10/08 at 11:32 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Tor Hill from Canada writes: It's hardly surprising that Mr. Harper tried to hold off on the bail-out. After all, this kind of stuff is sinking Mr. McCain's ship. ABC.
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Flat broke in the backwaters of Lanark from Canada writes: Harper's got his majority.
Dion looks like a deer caught in the headlights.
Layton actually believes he will be Prime Minister... that shows the depths of his delusions.
May has betrayed her party in a most spectacular fashion by making a deal with Dion.
Duceppe... yawn.- Posted 10/10/08 at 11:34 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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The Bubble from Canada writes: It doesn't really matter who wins, I suppose Harper's ego is bigger than his common sense because he just can't win, he'll be in a minority in an economy that is in the toilet. He'll be well within his rights to get rid of anyone who isn't a citizen, trash all the arts programs because all the money is gone and human rights will be something that will make people chuckle about. It's nice to be a white man in Canada under Harper, he'll put those women back in the kitchen including Margaret Atwood. I've always maintained the majority of Canadians are dumb and most actually don't know what is going on but they are sure going to find out, not likely Toronto is going to go Conservative however, this seems to be a new partisan sping the Globe is putting out, or they're trying to scare everyone because I've never met anyone who thinks well of Harper here and I always keep my point of view to myself in public so's not to give anything away. Harper will be a minority, or Dion which is maybe why the Globe is spinning Harper's way these days, it's pretty funny.
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joe mantha from Ottawa, Canada writes: Harper majority = R.I.P Canada
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Flat broke in the backwaters of Lanark from Canada writes: joe mantha from Ottawa, Canada writes: Harper majority = R.I.P Canada'
And a Dion majority would give us what? Chaos!- Posted 10/10/08 at 11:41 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Abe Preisinger from Canada writes: Why can't the Liberal party put someone in the leadership who can actually speak English? Harper is governing according to what sells in Metro Toronto since he knows he can take the true conservative b astion of Alberta for granted.
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Iam Becoming More Conservative:-((( from Ordinary, Canada writes: “I don't know the details, I know that, um, there were discussions, um, but this is not for publication?” Mr. Harper replies on the tape.
Lied under Oath- Posted 10/10/08 at 11:46 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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donald kennedy from Canada writes: None of the above! I supported the CCF until the NDP replaced it , and was a party member until 'Mr. Naked Ambition' became the leader of the NDP.
I do not think that rampant Narcissism an appropriate qualification. It is instead reminiscent of a personality disorder.. You could look it up. Elizabeth May is undeniably a bright human being and a nice one, but I have already been talked at interminably, Thank You. Harper is not honest.
Dion is, but is insistent on embarking on a foolish course with his 'green shift.' The editorial choice of Harper was a mistake. A majority government for any government would be just that, as only a minority government will be flexible enough for the coming storm.- Posted 10/10/08 at 11:49 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Lection Fever from east to west all across, Canada writes: joe mantha 'Harper majority = R.I.P Canada'
Eye roll.
Actually, many libz here actually celebrated and continue to promote Quebeckers voting for a party dedicated to the end of Canada. Now that's RIP Canada my young friend.- Posted 10/10/08 at 11:51 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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gary wilson from Calgary, writes: Don't do it Ontario! Use the good judgment we know you have.
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Tom Paine from Bribery is a Crime -- vote strategically -- www.voteforenvironment.ca, writes: Flat broke in the backwaters of Lanark from Canada writes: Harper's got his majority.
No, I don't believe Canadian voters can possibly support a crook. Harper approve a BRIBE offer to Chuck Cadman.
That's against the law. You know -- The Law, that Conservatives say they are keen to enforce.
So, even Conservatives can't vote for Harper now, right? Right?- Posted 10/10/08 at 11:52 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Bobby Dy from Canada writes: I'm skeptical. I'm predicting a spread of 4% on election day and that will mean a net decrease in the difference in seats. A weaker minority. The reason will be the ABC vote.
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Henry Allen from East Bank, Don River, Canada writes:
The Conservatives will gain a few seats, but not enough for a majority. The Liberals will lose a few.
This result will be great for Canada.
As returning PM of a minority government, Harper will be forced again to negotiate with Parliament. He hates negotiating but, as a minority PM, Harper has been forced to temper his autocratic tendencies. That's good for Canada.
The Liberals will persuade Dion to resign. Dion's a nice guy, cares deeply about Canada, but he's not leader or PM material. The Liberals will be forced to restructure, including a new leader. That's good for Canada.- Posted 10/10/08 at 11:56 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Systemic Risk from Canada writes: Unless Dion can significantly increase his seat count from the dissolution (98 I think) he will be toast - the problem for him is that is very unlikely because the NDP and Greens are polling well above 2006 numbers so they will be pressed on both sides and likely lose a lot of the close races they won in 06. If the numbers come down to CPC-35 LPC-27 NDP-21, the Tories will almost certainly win more seats than 06 because they'll have a 8 point spread vs. 6 and the LPC-NDP spread will be only 6 vs 11 in 06 to the same effect. As such Dion is likely scuppered and the only realistic possibility would be a LPC-NDP coalition, although because they play a zero sum game in their support, it will be very difficult for them to get 155 seats between the two of them and so it would a coalition minority - and not very effective. So even a CPC minority will likely result in another leadership convention for the Libs and hopefully maybe a little introspection on the part of Canada's Natural Governing Party so that they can broaden their support starting with maybe losing their sneering contempt for non big city urban Canadians...in the meantime my guess is Harper will still be PM in 2011.
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garlick toast from Canada writes: As usual, it's all up to Ontario. It's not an election, it's a test of character.
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Tories Lie Again and Again from Canada writes: Where is the wisdom in the REFORM-Conservative Party?
Cut taxes/revenues... Hand over $25Billion to Banks at low low interest rates...
Folks... WAKE UP...Flaherty has cooked the books in Ontario and is mucking about in Canada's fiscal kitchen....if you vote conservative, your reform buddies will have free reign to hand over cash to Harpers buddies in the republican camp- Posted 11/10/08 at 12:08 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment
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Bobby Dy from Canada writes: One last gem to throw a wrench in the election--the Cadman tape was NOT altered. This confirms the testimony by Dona Cadman in August of this year that the tape circulating amongst the media


