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Mary Throop has no regrets trading a big house in the burbs for a smaller downtown condo.

Fred Lum/The Globe and Mail

In downtown Toronto, Mike and Mary Throop stand in front of floor-to-ceiling windows on the 20th floor of the Shangri-La. The city view from their living room extends up University Avenue and over to the landmark clock tower at Old City Hall.

To illustrate the transformation in their lives, they've set the large-screen TV to display photos of the lifestyle they left behind in Mississauga, where their Lorne Park house offered lavish space inside, a curvaceous swimming pool with a waterfall outside, and a quick drive to the golf club.

The Throops still recall the reaction of many in their social circle when they announced they would be moving to 180 University Ave., more formally known as Private Estates – Living above the Shangri-La Hotel Toronto.

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"On the golf course, they basically told him he's crazy," says Ms. Throop, as her husband agrees.

The builders of Toronto's condominium towers are counting on wooing buyers like the Throops – the well-off empty-nesters who no longer want to be shackled by the responsibility of owning a sprawling property in the burbs.

They are also aiming projects at a younger segment of condo buyers who want to live downtown or on a transit line. They may have help from parents or grandparents in making a down payment – then they pay the mortgage as previous generations paid rent. Many will forgo a car to be within walking distance of vibrant nightlife.

Then there are the investors – foreign and local – who are buying the ever-smaller units still in the planning phase.

Builders are also competing with resale condos that are on the market.

Buyers haven't disappeared but, in every segment, they have more pull than they've had in years. Builders, real estate agents and sellers have to be more enterprising and energetic.

In the first three quarters of 2013, sales of new condo units dropped 27.4 per cent from the same period in 2012, according to numbers from RealNet Canada Inc. Inventory stands approximately 13 per cent above the level at this time last year.

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Ira Jelinek is a real estate agent with Harvey Kalles Real Estate Ltd. who recently sold his own condo unit in mid-town Toronto and plans to rent for a while. He says personal circumstances are partly dictating that choice – he's engaged to be married and plans to buy a new place with his fiancée – but he also thinks there is no reason to rush into buying right now.

Mr. Jelinek sees the same hesitation among other potential buyers. "Look at the choice I'm making: It costs me less to rent than to own," Even with a 20-per-cent down payment, he figures it will cost him 20 per cent less to rent than to buy.

He can't say where the market will be a year from now but that discount for renting makes sense either way. "If it goes up 5 per cent or down 5 per cent, I still think I'm better off renting."

The buyer of Mr. Jelinek's unit also consulted with the agent about buying a second condo in the preconstruction phase as an investment. But he says the math didn't work. The buyer paid about $530 a square foot for Mr. Jelinek's condo suite. The unit in a new project planned for Yonge and Eglinton was going to be in the range of $700 to $750 a square foot. The buyer signed a deal, then backed out during the 10-day cooling-off period.

"He could just see that I didn't have a great feeling about it," Mr. Jelinek says. "Now I think builders have really cranked up the price compared with three to five years ago."

A few years ago, he says, "people were buying regardless. There was a frenzy."

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Out-of-town investors have also slowed in their buying, he adds. As a result, builders are offering more incentives. Some, for example, will arrange help with financing so that the buyer needs to put just 5 per cent down. Assignment clauses, which allow the purchaser to sell to someone else before the building is fully built and registered, have also become less restrictive. Free lockers are sometimes thrown in.

"Anything to get a sale down," Mr. Jelinek says.

The agent says he's selling fewer condos this year than last, but single-family houses are still going strong.

Christopher Bibby, an agent with Sutton Group Associates, says the market continues to be choppy and unpredictable.

He recently sold a condo unit in the Scrivener Square development at Yonge and Summerhill. He had 22 showings in the first day-and-a-half, he says, and the unit sold within two days. Another agent just sold a suite for $100,000 over asking during the agents' open house.

But other listings have been sitting much longer. Deals take longer to complete as buyers and sellers haggle. "Everyone's stubborn," he says. "The buyers are a lot more diligent."

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As a Bay Street money manager, Ms. Throop has built her career on her ability to evaluate a sound investment. She is not fazed by fears of a condo bubble in Toronto.

"To me, in real estate it's all about location," she says. "Then, I wanted to make sure we got value for money."

The upper end of the market is still a fairly narrow tranche that hasn't seen the proliferation of building that has taken place at the lower end, she adds.

Ms. Throop pored over plans and looked at all of the luxury towers, including the Four Seasons Private Residences and the Residences at the Ritz-Carlton. The couple favoured the Shangri-La for its location near Bay Street and quick access to the Gardiner Expressway. They wanted three bedrooms so that their sons have their own space when they're back from university for a visit. Ms. Throop wanted an outdoor balcony.

And there were personal reasons: She's always enjoyed staying at the five-star hotel when her job takes her to Asia. "I'm familiar with the Shangri-La brand because I travel a lot."

When the market entered a lull in the summer of 2010, the Throops were able to negotiate a good deal in the preconstruction phase. Now, Ms. Throop says, many of her friends are also trading spacious houses for luxurious condos. "Quite a few have followed us into this building."

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The Throops have no regrets about their decision. They don't miss the 5,500 square feet they had in their house because the condo's layout is well-planned and the combined living room, dining room and kitchen is accommodating.

"This is a big room," she says. "It's basically where we're living."

She is enjoying the building's perks, security and hotel amenities.

She's also not worried about any fluctuations in the market. "To me, real estate is a 10-year-plus investment."

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